Two Japanese guys have been working for 30 years on a "Gavitational Power Generator" over-unity machine that produces 30-100 times the input energy.
The Japanese Patent office disagrees in an hilarious Kickstarter own-goal!
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Hi. Yes, it's dodgy kickstarter time again. But this isn't really a busted video because I don't have to do anything except read the page and read their own patent to see that this is fundamentally busted. Yes, it's free energy, the gravitational power generator, eco turbine.

Um, it's done by a couple of, uh, Japanese fellas. and if you watch the video, it's got uh, subtitles and everything. Anyway, what it is is, of course you can see it here. It's these water tanks at either end of giant like arms and there's a ton of them.

Look, there's like there's ton of these things. It's huge. It's like you know it has to be in like a big warehouse. And apparently they've spent 30 years of development on this.

So it's it's. actually it's quite sad actually. Um, they've actually spent their all of their um, pension money. Where is it? Yeah, um, we've made it past 70 years old.

We spent our pensions on this project and it this is the delusion of free energy. People are over unity, whatever you want to call it. You know, some people take me to task over the exact definition of the term and oh, coefficient of performance and or wank way. all that sort of stuff.

Look, I've done videos on using coefficient of performance. So yes, you can get more power out than in using a coefficient of performance greater than one. This is how air cons work you put in. you know, a kilowatt of power and you can get three kilowatts of you know, Btu heat and energy coming out of the thing.

But ultimately, there's no free lunch here. It's not free energy we're talking about over unity here. Perpetual motion, whatever you want to call it. Um, and this is the delusion of this.

You can spend like your entire life and your entire life savings on this thing. and countless people have done this. Anyway, I know I'm a bit late to the party on this. 21 hours to go.

They've only raised four thousand dollars out of their 1300 goals. so they got their goal. So good on them. Um, yeah, you gotta have a hobby and they've smashed.

They smashed their goal. unfortunately. Um, this four thousand dollars like this is of course never going to work. and I'll show you why.

Actually, one comment. A one backer here. Jerg Frick has actually gone to a lot of trouble to try and help them and explain to them. your invention would be perpetual mobile of the first kind, perpetual motion of the first kind.

For consolation, it would not be really climate neutral in the long run because all the gain energy would turn into heating in the end, so it would still heat the environment. Sorry for the bad news, and well, you know they just waffle on they replied. And they just waffle on. You know facts and numbers and how they've tested and everything else.

And then he politely goes on to explain how you can get arbitrarily strong forces using levers and gear wheels, so they're obviously like, so obviously like they're using momentum and weight, counterweights and levers. and you know all sorts of stuff to try and get their perpetual motion anyway. So he goes through the numbers he tries to explain to them. Go to the physics department of a nearby university and put a note on the message board.
Excellent physics students wanted for discussing an intervention in exchange for a rich dinner. And yeah, and I'll tell you. but of course, these people don't want to hear that what they're doing is just not possible. They think you know, they test their prototypes and they think it's all you know.

they got it going. But anyway, Sorry, I just realized that my advice above is technically sound, but it's psychologically not. fee or not. You know it's not being kind to them psychologically.

Um, either you would simply not heed the opinion of the student or you feel for the rest of your life that you stopped after 30 years of it based on judgment that could have been wrong. And yeah, that's the thing. And finally, it's okay that you don't listen to other human beings. Perseverance is a virtue, but please listen to Mother Nature when your generator delivers less than the pumps consume.

Um, yeah, and that's what's going to happen here. And this is the really interesting bit about this, right? You can go through and look, I won't. er, do we can We see it in operation. Here we go.

Is it going to swing for us? It's going to sweep? Yep. There we go. See, we've got the counterweights. and yeah, they're just, um, you know, cans filled with water.

I believe. They just wait. basically. so it's a big counterweight kind of uh, machine.

So yeah, um, it's very impressive, right? But unfortunately, it's not going to get more energy out than you put in. Um, anyway, so complete the blueprint they need. Uh, 500 000 Japanese Gen. Yen 5000 us.

So I don't know why they put such a low uh thing. Anyway, to complete to create the blueprints based on the prototype. So this is just money to create the blueprints. And it's not even that they haven't even raised enough for that.

Obtain a synchronous generator. Unfortunately, our generator is missing a key component asynchronous generator, so they haven't even like gotten power out of this. They've been working on it for 30 years and wow and collaborate. Yeah, you're not going to find anyone to collaborate on this apart from other free energy.

uh, delusional people who have been sucked in by this. but this is what I wanted to do the video on. This is the pattern, right? They reckon it's I don't think it's granted it's in Japanese, um, so please forgive me. but it does have English actually down the bottom, which is the most interesting part.

So any, uh, Japanese viewers feel free to actually correct any of this. or, uh, do that. There's construction going on behind me. I don't know.

It's Sunday Sunday afternoon here. Um, I'm trying to like, move the Lab and I thought I'd just do this video anyway. Uh, 2018. Uh, so I don't know if it's granted or why.
Like, it doesn't see. I don't think it is. Anyway, here's their pattern, right. They actually link this right as if like, oh, yeah, look, we've got a patent, or we've got a patent pending or whatever.

But if you go right down the bottom here, there's an English summary from, uh, presumably the patent examiner. So here's more diagrams. and we want the Patent examiners. International Search Report.

Um, so yeah, this is like, so the file for the patent. I think, uh, like an examiner has looked at this. Anyway, let's have a look. So yeah, I think it's just a search report.

I don't think it's yeah, it's yeah. International Search Report. So it's not even. I don't know whether or not that's actually a patent pending or whatever.

But um. anyway. so International Search Report Here it is. Here It is.

This is from the patent, uh, examiner, or whoever's doing this in the specification of the Prevent the Power Generation Device 10 according to the present embodiment, requires electric power for using a motorized pump and 200 watts of electricity is used per rotor. There are 15 rotors, thus three kilowatts total power in. Meanwhile, the power generation device 10 according to the present embodiment, can provide electric power approximately 30 to 100 times the electricity amount the power generation device uses. So yep, over unity more power out than power in.

This is nothing to do with coefficient of performance or anything. These are not heat pumps here. this is, um, just basically power into the motors to drive. Or you know, to keep all the thing going because it's eventually going to slow down due to friction and everything else right? So it's uh, to keep all this thing going needs three kilowatts and they claim that they're going to get 30 to 100 times the energy out of this by hooking a generator onto the other end.

I don't know exactly you know the mechanics of it all, but yeah, um, this is not like this is not like heat pump or coefficient of performance or anything like that. This is generator in to spin some you know, levers full of water and you get 30 to 100 times the power out. Nope. This statement of can provide electric power approximately 30 to 100 times the electricity amount the power generation device uses.

So presumably that's in their patent. That's what they state and it he's saying it violates the law of conservation of energy. You think normally when electric power is inputted to a motorized pump from outside and the rotary is driven. thus resulting in power generation by rotating the power generator.

Sorry, I just realized I haven't flipped Dave head there. Normally when electric power is inputted to a motorized pump from outside and the rotary is driven, thus resulting in power generation by rotating the power generator. It is common technical knowledge that a loss exists such as frictional resistance at the shafts of the rotary and power generator, which is why they have to keep pumping in three kilowatts to keep this thing going. Generating the electricity amount that is approximately 30 to 100 times that of the required input.
Electric power is considered to be impossible in the light of the Law of Conservation of Energy, and the calculation conducted to arrive an electric amount of approximately 30 to 100 times is also unknown. They just they've got no detail in their pattern. It's just like we can get 30 to 100 times out. Yeah, trust us.

even though we've never actually hooked up a generator to this thing because we can't afford it. But you know we've been working on this for 30 years and things spin and we've done some back of the envelope calculations and trust us, it'll get 30 to 100 times out. Please grant the patent not going to happen. Therefore, the inventions in claims wonder aid of the present application are considered to be a power generation device that uses a motorized pump that requires electric power.

But how could one provide a power generation device that can provide the electricity amount that is approximately 30 to 100 electricity amount required by the power generation device is not considered to be disclosed in the specification of the present application in a manner sufficiently clear and complete for the inventions in claims one to eight of the present application to be carried out by a person skilled in the art. Therefore, they've put no details in the pattern that in any way, like even remotely proves that they can get 30 to 100 times the energy out than they put in. And they're just no, it's it's not going to. They're not going to patent get a patent for this.

I thought that the patent office actually had a blanket ban on over Unity devices. I may be wrong on that, but um, anyway, it might be different in other countries. But yeah, this uh, patent examiner or patent search examiner or whoever it is is telling them flat out this pattern will not get granted. so you've just wasted your time and money accordingly.

From the subject of examination for inventions and claims one to eight of the present application excluded were configurations that exhibit the effect of being incapable of providing electricity amount 30 to 100 times that used by the power generation device. So they haven't even put anything in there that even tries to remotely explain how they're going to get 30 to 100 times the energy out. It's just anyway. instead configurations that comply with the law of Conservation of energy and in which the energy generation by the power generation device does not exceed the energy of the electric power input from outside.

And thank you very much. Uh, patent examiner or patent search or whoever's done that. So this is the thing linked Here it is. This is what's linked on their site.
I mean, seriously. Um, what's this document here? Purpose of Development: This attractive power generation device Turbine is designed to stop global warming with a safe power generation device that can always generate power and is not restricted to the installation location and has no adverse effects on human bodies in the natural environment. In a well, where does your three kilowatts come from? I guess you can get, let's whack some solar panels on the roof, Then you get like 30 hundred times that out. Two orders of magnitude.

Ah, wither, blah blah. They're gonna save the world. Yep, these couple of old codgers, they're gonna save the world. Good item.

They've been working on it for 30 years. unfortunately. No, you've been deluded into thinking that this can work and it's not you. Simply, once you actually put a generator on this thing, you're going to find that you're going to get less power out than what you put in.

Ultimately, it's always the case. People have been working on over unity things like this for hundreds of years. Generations and generations and generations of you know, really smart people that have been, you know, and hard work Like they spend every waking hour of the day working on this stuff for their whole life and they still nobody has been able to produce a machine that gives more energy out than you put in. like when all factors are considered it it just.

it's not going to happen. But we have developed a gravity power generator that is resistant to earthquakes, tsunamis, typhoons, replaces wind, parent generation and solar power generation. Wow. Just have these giant rotating machines degenerate.

You know the gigawatts? That, which is the 1.21 gigawatts gigawatts of electricity required. So yeah, yeah, we're going to save the planet, blah blah and feature description. Here we go. Um, yep.

They've got a water water tanks at both ends. The store in water arm is rotated by force that causes the tip of the arm to fall downwards. the water accumulated in upper tank A When the stopper that stops the arm is removed, tank A moves downwards and the arm rotates so it's just transferring water from one tank. I do, haven't we seen this before? This is not new.

haven't people been trying this for like hundreds of years? I don't see anything new here, but they don't even seem to have any. Like new whiz-bang cams or anything. But they're of course You gotta put in the three kilowatts of power required to pump the water from the top to the bottom. So anyway, they can go through the calculations and look, I'm not going to waste my time.

I just thought that it was absolutely hilarious that, uh, they're oh, look, yeah, they've got. Actually, they've got quite a significant bit of information here. So if you want to, uh, go in and, uh, waste your time just for an academic exercise, um, there's set up, cost, electricity generation, and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, I just thought it was absolutely hilarious that they linked to this patent information and the pattern examiner is gone.
There's nothing in here like you're just wasting your time. You're never going to get the pattern. Granted, there is nothing even remotely in this pattern that shows that it's going to even do this. not even remotely close.

So I just thought, like, that's an own goal right there. I mean, it's just anyway, they raised their, uh, they smashed their own goal on kickstarter and unfortunately, um, how many backers you know, 79 backers have just maybe they felt sorry for them and they just wanted them to give their money back. Which is, you know, after all this time, poor guys. Yeah, Ultimately, it's I find this rather sad that, uh, people waste their lives.

I've been contacted for like the last decade, even more. Even before I had the blog. I used to get contacted by Over Unity Free Energy You know, people. Um, and some of them were like, uh, they weren't Oh, I've invented this thing.

Some of them were people who've invested their money in this sort of stuff and they've gone. Oh, look, I've been. You know, I invested like five or ten thousand dollars or whatever it was into this thing. There's been various, like big, like the Um orbit, uh, what's the orbital one orbital? Oh, I don't know.

Anyway, there's been lots of them over the years, right? Really big, elaborate, um, free energy type scams and people have invested their money and these companies just work on it for a decade. They always come up with this excuse after excuse, every excuse why it works and I've had people that have started to go, well. I think this might be. I think I've been diddled out of my money and they contact me and they go, hey, you know what do you think about this and I have to tell them, look, sorry, um, these people are delusional.

It violates the fundamental laws of physics and uh, it's just people. Have been trying this for hundreds of years and it's just not going to work. You've wasted your money. All their excuses are just excuses just to keep the money coming in, just to keep it rolling.

Keep it running as a full-time business because some of these are quite big businesses. They employ people and all sorts of stuff. Um, so until they eventually Kamagatsa and the money runs out and they can't find enough suckers to put more money in. And these people, just, you know, I I feel sorry for them.

and often they don't want to believe it. But because they're sort of reaching out, um, to, you know, someone technical trying to ask? Well, look, you know I can you verify that this May that actually you know they say, is there any hope in this at all? Um, and no, I go. no, sorry. There's just no hope.
uh, whatsoever. So unfortunately. Um, yeah. a very impressive machine.

But yeah, yeah. Free energy over unity. I thought. um, this was against, uh, Kickstarter.

I thought this was completely against Kickstarters. Aren't they against? Um, maybe no one's reported it yet. And well, yeah. 20 hours left.

They're going to get some money back for their 30 years of development, but not enough to pay for all this that they've worked on. Looks quite elaborate, isn't it? Geez, look at the hydraulics and stuff and oh wow. Anyway, yeah, they haven't even hooked a generator onto it. Sad.

Anyway, let us know your thoughts down below. but that's a massive own goal. That one? A pro Tip: If you're gonna do a Kickstarter, especially for an over Unity thing, don't link a patent that actually where the patent examiner or the patent search examiner just completely just dismisses your entire argument. I mean, yeah, that's a huge own goal.

Rather hilarious. Anyway, let us know your thoughts down below. Catch you next time.

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25 thoughts on “Eevblab #82 – kickstarter over-unity gravitational power generator!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Plucky Pluckster says:

    nobody in their right mind would post their working perpetual machine on youtube.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Plucky Pluckster says:

    its the conductors inside the water jugs that create the power not the jugs moving themselves.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bob Lewis says:

    I totally agree that over unity is nuts. However, we already have a few means of "getting more energy out than WE put in" … it's called nuclear power (expensive to produce the electricity from it). Or solar power WE don't put the energy in, the sun does; or wind or wave or geothermal etc.

    But NONE of those produce more electricity output than the energy they require to produce it.

    FREE energy? Of course! But over unity? These guys need to watch Star Trek and listen to Scotty …
    "Ye cannae break the laws of physics Captain"! Doh!

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Irish Viking says:

    Mechanical losses alone preclude a >1 output.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gloomy Blackfur says:

    The US Patent Office approach is clever. A flat out ban on issuing patents for perpetual motion machines would probably require a new statute. But "we'll grant it if you can show us a working one" is something they could do with just regulatory rulemaking without a new law. Since it is actually impossible to build one, the effect is the same.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Demetriou says:

    What a waste of their savings they should turn it into an art exhibit a lick of paint and a few guard rails.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MasterFeiFongWong says:

    To whom it may concern.
    Over Unity Electric Generator Design: By AMA
    Segment 1: 1 motor with hollowed bar connected to it standing vertically. Circular disc connected to bar that has magnets embedded in it's top side all around, surrounded in high permeability material to focus magnets outward pushing force in an upwards direction from top of disc.
    Segment 2: Hollowed out cylindrical Bar of material horizontally positioned.
    donut shaped platter that's flattened on all sides instead of rounded, all around the flat edge of this platter, from the center is a ravine in the center so structure looks more like 2 donut shaped platters flattened on all sides & sandwiched together against a smaller donut shaped platter that's flattened not rounded & between them both. Square openings are located all around the outside of platters edge on both sides & goes all the way through material. In these openings rectangular magnets surrounded in high permeability casings are slid into place all around platter in a matching pattern on both sides. N facing in then S facing in.
    Connect these securely all along the length of the horizontally positioned bar except at far ends and center.
    At both ends of horizontally positioned bar securely connect a ring of material that can be magnetically repelled (This will allow bar to spin when apart of completed construct)
    Build a hollow ring structure that has ring of magnetic repulsion around its inner ring that will be able to fit around main horizontally positioned bar and keep it from touching anything on account of the bar sitting on its magnetic field inside the ring. The ring structure has a rectangular bar protruding from it's outer edge & has small square platform on end of it that will allow it to be screwed in to another structure. Make 3 of these ring structures & position them (approx) over both ends of horizontally positioned bar & around it's center.
    Build hollowed out rectangular encasement that is separated into 2 pieces that can be placed on top of each other and screwed together. This encasement will fit over horizontal bar & everything that is immediately around this bar. Encasement needs areas all along it's top side that has screw openings that all structures inside that need to be fastened down will be able to screw into. (Best if encasement is transparent) Encasement has round opening at both ends so when in place horizontally positioned bar with round magnetically repel-able disc attached to it are sticking out.
    Build hollowed out ring structure (flattened not rounded) that has a hollowed out rectangular bar that protrudes from top and bottom of ring and has square platform at end of each that will be able to screw into inside of encasement on top and bottom. Ring structure should be able to separate into 4 halves (from middle separating top & bottom & from side to side on each) that sit on top of each other & side by side perfectly connected when encasement is closed. Hollowed out aspect of ring structure & it's protruding hollowed out bar that's connected to it is for conductive wiring to be placed so that the copper coil constructs not mentioned yet will be able to plug into this ring structure and the current can be diverted up through the hollowed out area to a point where another device can plug into it. On bottom of hollowed out ring structure there are openings where copper coil constructs can be plugged into.
    Build wide but small ring with ravine around its outer edge in center (kinda would look like the round metal piece you would see in a pulley system but not angled in) of structure (flat not rounded & not hollow in center). Copper coil will be coiled around this. Build hollowed out rectangular structure the length of the width of the wide small ring structure. Build a plug system within it so at the center of the rectangular structure it has proper electrical plug poking out that will be able to plug into bottom side of larger ring structure that is designed to divert current. At both ends of small rectangular plug system there should be flat rectangular legs hanging down so that you can fit it perfectly over center of small wide ring structure that has copper coil wound around it & screw openings at bottom of these flat rectangular legs so they can be screwed together. Ends of the copper coil are fed up into the plug securely.
    With wiring in place screw top halves of ring structure together still separate from bottom halves. Then with wiring in place screw bottom halves of ring structure together. Now screw the already connected top halves to the inner top encasement structure & same for bottom halves. Two main encasement structures still disconnected at this point. (Fine point… there are as many of these ring structures with copper coil constructs plugged into them as there are the magnetic disc constructs lined up across the length of the horizontal bar) This is because they are all to be lined up. Now with everything ready carefully lift up the Horizontal bar with the magnetic disc setup securely attached to it. At this point the magnetically repelling rings that are at far ends and center of bar should be hanging freely. Carefully position this whole thing in the bottom encasement so the copper coils are positioned perfectly in the ravine of the magnetic disc area connected to bar. Line the free hanging magnetic rings that have rectangle bars and square platforms up with the inner bottom of encasement and screw them in. At this point the horizontal bar is sitting on the magnetic fields in the rings and is securely in place connected to bottom encasement. Now pick up the top of encasement and carefully line it up the same but on top & then screw the top encasement to the bottom encasement. If lined up properly you will see that when the horizontally positioned bar is made to spin, the magnetic fields will interact with the coils that are perpendicular to the magnetic field lines and since the copper coils are positioned to hang withing the ravine, the magnets on both sides will magnify the effect to achieve greater results & since the magnets on both sides are set up N then S all the way around it will end up being AC current. At this point you may be wondering how will this ever equate to over unity? well we are about to get to the part that makes that possible.
    Build cylindrical structure (like a donut but flat not rounded on all sides but still hollow in center like a donut). The cylindrical structure is built in 2 parts. Top part & bottom part. Bottom half has a ridge close to bottom center area that circles around further into the center but not all the way in. On top of this ridge is a flat ring of high permeability (magnetic field shielding) material that has small openings that will allow magnetic fields through specific locations. The top flat side of the 1st part has rectangular grooves cut into it that go almost the entire distance from outside of cylindrical structure to hollowed out center. At both the outer edge and inner edge it instead cuts down sharply & narrowly at just over the width of the horizontal bar. This way when the horizontal bar in it's encasement is sitting in this spot the case fits down in and bar slides down in with a little extra space but the encasement can't shift forwards & backwards. The top half of cylindrical structure has same groove but no extended ridge going further towards center. Fill the rest of the rectangular grooves with duplicates of the electric generator construct. Now carefully position top of cylindrical structure in place and screw it to bottom section. Now position the motor segment with the vertical bar that has discs on it in center of cylindrical construct so the disc is lined up perfectly underneath the inner ridge that has the flat ring of high permeability material fastened to it. Now you can duplicate this whole setup and stack it for more electrical output. (The only thing that would need to be duplicated with the motor & vertical bar setup is for you to add another disc with magnets embedded in it, higher up on the vertical bar you are already using). When you turn motor on the discs will spin and the magnetic fields on them will only interact with the discs on the horizontally positioned bars when the magnetic field lines go through the small openings in the high permeability material. Since those openings are lined up with the edge of the discs connected to the horizontally positioned bars, it will force them to spin, effectively generating lots of electrical current. Just make sure to let enough of that current pump energy into the 1 motor you are using to run things, and the rest of the electric current is over unity. If you are still wondering how this could end up being over unity, the answer is simple. The device exploits magnetic field effects connected to the vertically positioned bar connected to the motor to have them do all the extra work so the motor does not have to. And since the magnets are exerting there force upwards while the bar spins around sideways, the motor won't be getting a detrimental amount of push back. This design invented by AMA

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Scripts How says:

    Do you want to challenge Nikola Tesla's free energy concept? Another thing. Do you know where is starting point of science ? Well it started very long time back when people were trying to find some material which by touching it to iron will turn iron into gold and some liquid in which anything means anything will get dissolved. Till today these two things are not found, but the entire science is developed till today, is from such efforts . Some times with correct efforts and sometimes serendipity. The quest of free energy is like it. The efforts to get Free energy may or may not be successful, but attempts to get it may find some thing new and valuable. Great scientist also seldom got success in the first attempt and many times they learnt from successful/unsuccessful attempts of others.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Francisco Junior says:

    Educate yourself about George Morin overunity device, before saying it doesn't work.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DrB1900 says:

    No ban. They probably love it at the patent office when someone hauls in some perpetual motion machine. "Hey, another PMM guys and gals, grab the chips and beer and let's check it out!"

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MiniLab says:

    I feel for them because it looks like they paid the fee for a WIPO patent…those fees are expensive (for Worldwide patents). Ouch. Probably be rejected anyway as overunity claims in patents are illegal

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MiniLab says:

    Overunity is obviously impossible. In my foolish youth, I wondered whether having a tower full of water (density 1000kg/m3) might allow a less dense working fluid such as oil (say 890kg/m3) to rise within such a water tower due to the relative positive buoyancy of the oil inside the water tower, before then [the oil] being pumped from the top of the water tower so as to fall onto an impulse turbine located at the base of but 'outside' the water tower…..and then pumping the working fluid (the oil) back into the base of the water tower [edit: to allow the oil to float to the surface of the water tower again]. However, though it might seem kind of sort of maybe plausible heuristically, it would nonetheless require a good deal more energy to pump the working fluid (in this example the oil) about (ie back into the base of the water tower where pressure at the base is highest) than would be derived from an alternator motor connected to such an impulse turbine….even if the unitless fraction for efficiency (Theta) is 1 (ie even assuming 100% efficiency which is impossible in itself) and even assuming that the the oil would have zero tangential velocity after striking the turbine blades (having lost all it's kinetic energy). Seductive illusions are out there….they may lead to interesting thought experiments, but there is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to energy.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars fsr says:

    Instead of trying to get free energy from a repetitive process that you will need to fight against, like gravity, why not use a continuous process that mother nature already does for you, like, you know, solar energy, wind, hydroelectrics, etc?

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tony Nagy says:

    So my hamster wheel farm wont work either?

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Philo Judaeus of Alexandria says:

    Hey Dave – I'm a lawyer that's done some IP work. I know I'm a few months late here, but the "sufficiently clear and complete for someone skilled" in the relevant area to construct/create the device/invention/etc is a requirement for a valid patent application. That looks like a patent denial letter. They probably don't even realize it and think they have a patent on it.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ryan B says:

    Man, I love your vids. Your awesome. BUT, do you think that energy abundant machines (generators) could be built using nickel titanium belts, and Geothermal heating (lots of digging and building of course. BECAUSE the claims of nitinol is that can go for billions of cycles. You should make one, and no it's not overunity just nuanced Geothermal power.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars andy pugh says:

    Actually it's rather easy to get more power out than you put in, and this device pretty clearly can do that.
    What you can't do is get more energy out.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars iron man says:

    Well when he mentioned it will combat global warming you knew it was dodgy. They could never prove that so changed the name to climate change so whenever it gets hot or cold they can still blame the same old junk science to slap carbon taxes on you to take money out of your pocket. Meanwhile China keeps building coal fired plants domestically and abroad with the UNs blessing

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars AC9BX Eric says:

    Coefficient of nonsense

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Phil C says:

    Ironic that one of them's called ohno 🤣

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars VejyMonsta says:

    Even 10 year old me imagined a turbine generator which used gravity from landslides to generate power. I understood that you have to do work to get the dirt back above the the turbine, and it is a stupid idea. How can you spend 30 years developing this kind of shit?

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars harshbarj says:

    More out than in? Why not just feed the output to the input. Infinite power!

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars EZG says:

    I think the old men are assuning newtons and electrical watts are 2 interchangable units of energy.

    Or maybe they are trying to milk people for money because they spent their pension?

    If they really had some common sense they would build a tiny scale model and prove how insane they really are.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mikeissweet says:

    Do they ever wonder why they keep paying their electric bill?

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars K Mc says:

    What a decent chap Joerg is, shame his advice falls on deaf ears.

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