WiGL have raised almost 5 MILLION dollars on StartEngine.
What's worse than another wireless charging technology startup? - One that doesn't really have any original technology and simply uses off the shelf RF energy harvesting chips!
This one is just embarrassing.
And they want to comepete with Energous, WiTricity, Ossia and others, LOL.
For a near identical product, and one that contains some actual original tech to try and do 5W wireless charging, see my debunk of the Xiaomi wireless charger. This is EXACTLY what the WiGL will have to be if it wants to receive 5W directed RF power. The numbers and issues will be exactly the same, so just replace the word Xiaomi with WiGL and you have another Part 2 debunk of WiGL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6JDOXjvKAI
Sorry for the length, here are some handy time markers:
00:00 - WiGL Raised $5M on StartEngine
02:50 - A look at the StartEngine campaign
07:15 - It's like WiFi for Power! Where have we heard this before?
12:02 - Let's comete with Enerous, HUAWEI, WiTricity, and Ossia. LOL
13:52 - Brand Dominance!
16:00 - Let's watch the promo video!
17:38 - The AMAZING WiGL Energy Unit technology!
23:07 - A whopping 2.5mW!
25:56 - All hail the White Paper!
29:40 - The Patent
34:12 - Let's charge an iPhone!
36:58 - Their latest technology demonstrator!
38:15 - WiGL Tech Talk with the founder showing off their latest tech!
45:26 - INFINITE POWER!
46:23 - We've already done it! No, no you haven't.
47:49 - Uh-Oh! We have a SKEPTIC!
WiGL Video: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp8St2LrfCuHuPd1UoXfjng
StartEngine: https://www.startengine.com/wigl
White Paper: https://wiglpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/WigL-White-Paper-Download.pdf
Home page: https://www.wiglpower.com/
Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2018212805A1/en?oq=9985465
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Hi, Yes, it's Wireless Power startup time again. How many times have we done wireless power? like debunking videos of like companies who just do these wireless startups. Ah guy, you remember you beam. And there's been a few others over the years as well that I've done videos on.

But thank you to the uh viewer who pointed this one out. Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle. Yeah. 4.8 million dollars.

That's Yankee bucks. None of this Australian stuff. If almost five million dollars, they're looking to raise Five million dollars here. They're almost cracking.

Cracked it. There's 12 days left in this campaign. This is on Start Engine.com which is where you can invest. I guess.

where, uh, sophisticated investors? uh, can actually invest in products. I don't think you even have to be a sophisticated investor, which is a legal term for people who, um, you know, basically take their own risk. Um, they're supposed to be smart enough. Uh, when they invest their money in these, um, startup companies to, well, you know, not get scammed out of their money.

or or get there, Or have their money just flushed completely down the toilet and once again, like this is not a scam, like they're not going to run off with your money. What's going to happen here is yes. another Wireless Power startup is going to be a complete boondoggle. This is a Tldr.

It's going to be a complete boondoggle. And yeah, they're just going to go broke because it's not practical. And boy, this is a Bobby Dazzler. Stick around until you see what marvelous technology they've got.

Anyway, there's 4 752 investors investors in this for a 56 million dollar valuation. Wow, you've got to invest 249 minimum. And unlike Kickstarter and indiegogo type campaigns, you're not actually buying a product here. Although I guess I don't know about the rewards do you actually get? So no, you get a t-shirt or something.

Basically what you're doing is buying shares in the company. And yeah, good luck with that. Anyway, so common shares offered. Um, common shares.

They're just. yeah, not as good as you know the, uh, the other types of share offerings. Anyway, I won't pretend to know all about the startup investment schemes and all that. I'll leave that, uh, to the experts out there.

Anyway, you're buying, and the offering type is equity. So you're buying equity in this Wiggle Company. long distance wireless power offer closing. You better get in quick.

It's from Hampton, Uh, Virginia I believe that is. And oh boy, let's go down the rabbit hole, shall we? This could take a while reasons to invest: The Wireless charging solutions market was valued at six and a half billion dollars in 2018, estimated to grow to 40 billion by 2027.. Wow! Led by a strong team of founders and advisors was the experience in the Air Force, Draper Laboratories, Mit, and Bae. Systems.

I'm sure it is. I'm sure the founders of you know you can go see their bios and everything. I probably won't bother in this, but you can go see it for yourself. And I'm sure they've worked at all these companies that does not make this thing practical and viable.
Fully patented technology developed 100 by a disabled veteran like that makes a difference. How? huh? fully powered, fully wireless Power your devices on the move. Use the phone while recharging the battery. It's all about charging that mobile phone isn't it As look out for the Astex's Always look out for the Asterixes.

The product is currently under development. Final results may differ and not guaranteed. Geez, look at this. The possibilities are endless.

We'll watch the videos in a minute. Oh, Asterix again. The product is currently under development now. Final results may differ and are not guaranteed.

wiggle security, clean energy efficiency, blah blah blah facts. Facts: Oh, look. Asterix: Number of users calculated internally based on smartphone penetration use provided by Statistica: 3.31 billion Internet Oh, it's the Internet of Things devices in 2020. Oh, it's going to explode three and a half times.

Smartphone user growth batteries mean limited autonomy, high costs, harsh impacts, long charge times, or Astrix Again, the product is currently under developer. Final results may differ and are not guaranteed. Oh yes, they're shifting paradigms. Of course, they shift in paradigms.

Internet of Things devices are no longer dependent on batteries in their drawbacks. Yeah, because as you'll see further on the video, this is the only thing it's going to power is tiny little itty bitty milliwatt devices. And oh boy, it's hilarious. The tech they've got.

Wait until you see it move beyond battery reliance light fixture. You can power lights, you know, tens of watts, first responders, of course, handheld devices, mobile devices, Tvs. Wow. Home security systems, high power, untethered devices, passenger autonomous vehicles.

Yes, they're actually claiming Evs as one of the usage scenarios for this thing. airborne untethered devices. because they're actually, um, they've done something for the military. They've like, had a proposal for charging military helmets and things like that.

How Wiggle works. Let's get right into it. We haven't even watched the promo video yet. Oh, Wiggle, By the way, I believe stands for uh, wireless something.

Lan G, Lan or something. Yeah, it converts Ac or Dc. Smarter Power Plan: What? I think somebody's having a bit of a into a two-way signal via a Wiggle transmitter. We'll see the Wiggle transmitter shortly.

The transmitter then routes a directed wiggle signal to a known receiver, so it's directed. The receiver then converts the Emr or Rf signal into Dc to harvest the power. Yes, it's Rf energy harvested and wait until you see how they do it. The receiver power is installed or used to power the device because yeah, it's got to have a battery in it.
Otherwise, it's not going to work because the Pc little receiver is not going to be able to receive anything except Milliwatts. Oh, Asterix, the current product is currently under the development. Final results may differ and I guarantee. Oh, Wireless Industry.

Here we go. Oh, there we go. Radio frequency, resonant and inductive. So they're trying to compare in here to the different.

uh, it's patented. We'll have a look at the pattern. In 2020, they're awarded a contract to demonstrate Wiggle in a fighter helmet for the Department of Defense. demonstrators.

We prove that Wiggle can recharge a cell phone. They prove that they proved they've already proven it can recharge a cell phone at Va Tech University. Tech Talk: We'll actually have a look at that video and check check out their claims. We have proposed our second funded wireless power solution.

Oh, they're trying to extract money from the National Science Foundation as well. Computer generated image for illustration purposes. Actual product is in development. Final results may differ.

Oh, look at this. They just bombard you. They just bombard you with all this stuff and it's involved. Asterisks: The product is currently under development.

Final results may differ and not guaranteed. Wiggle is like Wi-fi for powering your devices. Where have we heard that before? Hmm, It's like Wi-fi for energy. Wiggle works just like traditional Wi-fi However, instead of transmitting and receiving Wi-fi data, a wiggled enabled transmitter uses the same raw radio frequency Rf as noise as noise, but harvests the Rf noise as raw power.

Oh yes, it's like yeah, because they're basically they're just transmitting on 2.4 gig. And uh yeah, they're supposedly trying to integrate the data into the Wi-fi so that they can communicate back and forth and then use the same like Wi-fi uh, power to actually power your device. Yes, it's Wi-fi power. It's anyone.

Remember 11 years ago, the Rca Energy Wi-fi Charging. I debunked that 11 years ago. And yeah, I came to the same calculations as we're going to today. Or the the data we'll actually see today.

Uh, this is hilarious. Wiggle transmits the Rf to a wiggled enabled receiver to or within a smart device like cell phones. Wiggles transmitters are smartly connected, allowing for near and near endless. They're smartly connected because that allows near endless distance to support smarter, greener power.

In the future, we will also produce Wiggle Energy Energy Units. We will actually see these physical energy units that they've built as a function of self generating power Router for energy transmission that enables remote location mesh networks going off the grid. We take Wiggle with you in the middle of nowhere here. Wiggle In the Home.

Look, You can power light fixtures. Uh, what is untethered devices? Your laptop, your Tv? You can power your mobile phone, your home security system. Everything else. It's going to be used in planes.
Yeah, U-beam was going to be used in planes too. Remember that one Wiggle Transmitters in Satellites. They're going to put their transmitters in satellites and they're going to transmit to you wireless power at 2.4 gig. Ah, Passenger Autonomous vehicles.

Yes, they're going to recharge. Evs first responders, handheld devices Wiggles to power like a street lamps. drones. Oops, Asterix Again, the computer generated images for illustration purposes.

Only actual product is in development. Final results may differ. You guessed it. They've got a subscription business to business rental model for this.

Because how else you're gonna get your hundreds of millions of dollars a year in income to generate your 56 million dollar company valuation? They are from 699 to 29.95 per month will earn from service providers 10 to 20 of each monthly bill of the software subscriber hardware licenses charging 20 cents for each device containing a Wiggle transmitter and 10 cents for each embedded our external wiggle receiver. The low, oh, it's low pricing strategy helps us to get to market quickly and expand our core revenue drivers. Direct equipment sales that commercialize our products with Wiggle technology under Wiggle Energy Devices will range from ten to two hundred and fifty dollars trademark. They'll license their trademark.

why not integrate Wiggle into all wirelessly chargeable products with non-exclusive models? The goal is to offer Wiggles trademark at a very low introductory price to aiding our long-term strategy of name dominance for wireless power naming rights. Multi-revenue generation. Ah, Asterix. The product is currently under development.

All revenue channels are planned. Actual results may differ and are not guaranteed. This is great. I'm sorry this is going to take forever, but come on, stick with stick with, me.

I'll put some time markers down the bottom where you can skip to stuff. Well, Wiggle is still currently in early developmental stages. We have partnered with Gwyn Partners to build three exciting new developmental prototypes in support of upcoming demos for the Air Force: A small Wiggle enabled transmitter that plugs in a home or business electrical outlet Wiggle enabled phone case receivers that recharge your battery on the move. Wiggle enable receivers for autonomous robots and drones.

Wiggle has been selected to pitch and advance the technology from government to use commercial applications. This is the like. They talk all this stuff and it's like anyone can go and pitch anything for these kind of. We've been selected once we reached the commercial launch.

In addition to having wiggled enabled transmitters, we plan to build out our own well supported and trained representatives and supplement and support partner resources in order to gain traction. Your wiggle representative turns up and helps you out with your wiggle design. This is great how we are different, current and future competitive advantages. Wiggles primary advantage are its patented wireless charging range.
We'll check out the pattern and mesh networking capabilities. uh, through Energis and Huawei are Wiggles closest competitors. they they're comparing themselves to. Energies Energies is listed on the Us Stock Market.

What's their valuation? Like hundreds of millions of dollars or something and they're produced like basically nothing. They're going down the toilet anyway. They do not have the long distance range capabilities as Wiggle. Our other direct and patented advantage over existing competitors is our approach to mesh networking.

None of this, they've got no evidence at all. Look at this graph. Look at it. Look.

They're putting Wiggle 15 feet to infinity, to infinity and beyond To infinity. And Beyond Power. Matt Weatricity, Ossia, and and Energis and Huawei. One, I haven't really looked into the Huawei um, version of their wireless power or whatever, but just wait until you get a load of their demos Astrix information in this graphic based on internal company research only, we are positioned to ward off the competition with our excellent utility patent, which effectively blocks out those that seek to leverage electromagnetic transmission technology for uncoupled energy transfers.

They reckon their patent is so good as a three-year and it's going to lock out everyone. And ironically, that's going to be like the only worth of this company is potentially the dumb ass pattern they got for it. Remember, it doesn't matter how dumb or how obvious a pattern is, the fact that it was actually granted gives people leverage to sue other people, patent trolls, and stuff. So yeah, you know you got to watch out for it.

It's the threat is real. Wiggle Inc seeks to become the first to claim brand and market dominance, making Wiggles synonymous with all wireless power. Think of it this way in the near future. We want customers ask, do you have Wi-fi and do you offer Wiggle? Oh, it's just.

I have to do it because I'm Australian. Look at their transmitter, Look at their transmitter. Looks a bit looks like a new Marvel character or something I don't know. Or the computer generating images is for illustration purposes.

Only actual product is in development. Final results may differ. Led by an experienced team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's that's all.

Legit. Invest in the future of Wiggle Smart Wireless Power. Timeline: Here we go. Oh, look at this.

They've been going since May 20. You utility patent awarded. Wiggle is born. Company launches University of Virginia Tech.
Talk: Launched on start engine. Oh geez, it's been going since November. Really? Is it like wow? I didn't know it's been going that long. I didn't see when it started really.

So nowhere in here do they actually um, you know, like say oh yeah, our demon? Look, our prototype's done and look, we can charge a smartphone at 5 or 10 watts at you know, 10 feet or something. No. 249 is your average investor maximum number of shares on offer: Eight million. So yeah, based on that, you can see that there's a lot of shares left over.

They're not offering them all and we'll get to that eventually. Somebody's got a really good comment on this or Asterix. Maximum number of shares offers subject to adjustment for bonus shares. see bonus information below and look at this.

If we invest 90 000, we can get on the ball. We can get on the Wiggle Advisory board and for 50 grand, you get into the Wiggle Investor Club and we can and we get on the Community Outreach advisory board. Get a seat on there. Wow.

Anyway, I'm sure you can go in there like and read all of the like mem offering memorandum and all that sort of stuff right? All the details are I get like no, I just don't care. Let's let's let's get to the tech, shall we? But first, we have to watch. We have to watch. I'll speed it up just a bit.

Incoming Call: Don't you hate it when your phone just dies? Dead Battery Anxiety: It's just like so much anxiety he's currently under development. Final Results: Wi-fi is everywhere. Why isn't power everywhere? It's time for safe, over-the-air wireless power. which is why we created Wiggles.

You can now invest in this future on start engine. Imagine getting wireless power the same way you get Wi-fi Just imagine a highly mobile world standing outside. Wireless power that moves on the rooftop. On the go.

Wiggle is there. Wiggles mesh networks may ensure limitless distance. Oh that that that looks real look. It's just beaming.

I invented Wiggle for soldiers on the battlefield, but now it's time to bring this technology to the world on the move. In the air. large amount of lights stadiums Wiggle can give you nearly infinite mobility. Check out that grin.

Check out that grin. Yeah, I'd be greeted like that too if I got nearly five million bucks. Four oh boy. Wait until you see it.

let's have a look. This is their Wiggle Energy Page: Wiggle Energy 272 subscribers Wow, You can go subscribe to Wiggle Now. Remember this is not that long ago. This is August 2020, right? This is.

This is pretty latest stuff from them. It's got a capacitor and we've got this is the receive unit cell. You remember how we mentioned before, the receive unit cell circuit output is after this voltage sensitive switch. Wait until you see it.

Yeah, Have you seen these before? These are on my these were on my mailbag segment. I can't I couldn't find a video I did. I don't think I did a separate video on it. Anyway, it is.
These are off the shelf from Rfdiagnostics.com the Rf test board that they've got, and the Rf Microwave energy detector, the 2.5 gig Rf energy detector, and here it is here like this is what they're using. This is their tech. This is their receiving tech. Off the shelf Rf diagnostic boards like this with a little like dipole antenna on the damn thing.

I like that they got five million dollars for this to a test board i am not slowing that down and then also connected to an electrolytic capacitor and the modified or Rfd 102a module with a dipole antenna and an Led mounted on the Dc output. Uh, I don't have a load on it, other dipole antenna and an Led mounted on Dc output. so they aren't trying to hide this. They're admitting that their receiver technology is off the shelf Rf, Uh, diagnostics boards, the microwave energy detector that anyone can just buy and hook up exactly the same.

This is that. And and here it is. And yes, that is one of those compartmental toolboxes. I've got one of those.

Anyway, they've built in four of these wiggle receivers into here. This is their wiggled transmitter, which is I almost certainly off the shelf as well. Uh, I don't have a load on it other than this Led right here, which draws about one to two milliamps when the system is working, we have a three by three array of these unit cells in here. Oh sorry, Nine, I I only see six and it's a polarization sensitive.

so right now the dipoles are vertically polarized. We combine all the Dc's to this output down here near the Led and this is the current sense with one Ohm. They don't actually use that and we have a load that we can switch in, in and out between 100 unload and a 10k Ohm load. So currently it is driving a little Led there and a 10k load this close.

That's what they're doing and they're pumping a what I believe and they admit that they're pumping a watt into this to stay within Fcc guidelines for Uh Wi-fi It was antenna with the polarization vertical. We have power meter and coupler behind antenna with the polarization K Ohm load. I'm just working with the wireless antenna with the polarization vertical so if anyone can identify any of these devices, please leave them in the comments down below. So maybe we can work out like the actual transmit power and stuff like that.

And this is a Wi-fi booster amplifier that's powered from the wall and we feed in 2.42 gigahertz. From there it is, they're just feeding in a 2.42 gig signal through a power amp into a like an off-the-shelf transmitter into an off-the-shelf Rf diagnostics Wi-fi energy harvesting device. Like, based on the data sheet itself, you can actually let's have a look. We essentially have the data sheet for their technology.

It's not theirs, it's Rf diagnosis. It's an Rf energy harvesting device. It can harvest anywhere anywhere from from 60 hertz to 6 gig when connected to an antenna. The module can extract power from the wireless source, but it performs best in the Uh 100 megahertz to 2.5 gig range.
And here you go, you can get the output voltages into a one mega Ohm load for that frequency range like it's We've got the data sheet. It's an energy harvesting device. Of course you're only going to get milliwatts out of this thing as we'll see and they prove in their own video a signal generator. I don't know what's up with the slow audio like.

I've got this plane at like one and a half or two times. Amplifier transfer, four and a half feet. I swear there's only six in there. Oh, now they've gotten that.

I swear there's only six three by three array and the Dc outputs on the on the side of the box with so they've got a 10k load at the moment. So they're driving a lead with a 2.2k dropper and they're getting 5.1 volts Dc out of it. Okay, next I'm going to switch. No idea what's going on with the audio.

Let's switch it to 100 Ohms. Let's see the current that we're able to deliver. Whoa. Dropped a half a volt At 100 Ohms, we have 0.52 volts.

About 52 milliamps. huh? So let me get my confuser here for a sec, because I think let's round it to 0.5 divided by 100 Ohms. Uh yeah. uh.

5 milliamps or 5.2 milliamps. Not 52 milliamps. So this is their own wireless power demonstration thing. They can't even get their own numbers, right? Unbelievable.

Five Five One five, Two volts across a hundred Ohms. So that's 50.. So they're still running with that number 52 Milliamps? It's not. It's 5.2 milliamps.

You saw it. Half a volt across 100 ohms? Anyway, 0.5 volts squared V squared on R is power divided by 100 ohms. G: 2.5 milliwatts. Who would have guessed? So their fantastic demonstration here is to use just an Rf Sig Gen into an off-the-shelf transmitter into an off-the-shelf antenna transmit antenna Here at four and a half feet using off-the-shelf receivers.

Rf energy harvesting receivers Six of them although they claim nine. but whatever. and they're getting 2.5 milliwatts out of it. As you'd expect for an energy harvesting device like this at four and a half feet.

this is August 2020 and that raised five million dollars. No wonder he's grinning. Almost Five million dollars raised for using off-the-shelf Rf energy harvesting receivers just because they've got a patent and they go and claim all this stuff. They're gonna charge phones, They're gonna charge Tvs, They're going to charge electric vehicles, They're going to charge everything and over Unlimited distance unlimited.

Like, where is it to infinity and beyond? So this is the company that claims to have surpassed Huawei, Energis, Ossia, We Tricity Powermat. These companies have like real, genuine tech. Yeah, it's 99 marketing, but at least they have some. You know, a real genuine, innovative tech.
Uh, in the wireless charging space. And they're just using off-the-shelf receivers like this. Unbelievable. I wish I had a set of brass balls this big, but if you go to their website over here, it's got.

You Know it's got all the same. It's got all sorts of you know, all the same, wankery, right and frequently asked questions. Uh, how does Wiggle work it Taking normal energy from wires, converting energy in a novel networked way. A novel networked way.

I don't see any networking here at all. I don't see anything novel, any novel technology at all. All I see is a couple of off-the-shelf bits of kit cobbled together to give you 2.5 milliwatts and receive power. But over it.

But it's the accumulation of over 140 years wireless energy know-how We can download the white paper. Oh, all hail the White paper. So let's check it out. For Robert Rickard, President Executive, I'll link it in down below.

You can read this wankery for yourself. It just wanks on and on about Ac and Dc and magnitude and all sorts of we you know is a communication source and a power source. Did you see any communications in that demo video? Neither did I. A millennium of technological advances in telecommunications to rethink their rethinking Ac and Dc distribution by 2.4 gig energy harvesting using off-the-shelf chip and they wank on about.

you know, near field and far field and all that sort of stuff. and frequency division, multiplexing, and all the different types of multiplexing. And like they've got none of this the same wankery. Look at it like go read it for yourself.

There's nothing in here in there. White paper. All hail The White paper. They actually have the this exact demo.

Wireless Lab demo. This demo is in. There's White paper, as their big technology demonstrator. Oh My.

God. Look down here. It's no, that's 0.0037 volts output and let the media the sheer audacity of raising almost five million dollars for this. But to be fair, they do actually admit a simple demonstration was performed using commercial, off-the-shelf components that takes a power source on the right, transmits a low voltage power across the room to an array of devices, and provides power to the meters on the receiving end.

This concept can easily be duplicated in a laboratory. Yeah, I could do it here. I've got one of those receivers somewhere. I could do this, and companies worldwide will be quick to scale their technology and apply it to their own use cases.

The race is on. So they admit that the the race is on to implement Rf diagnostics. Uh, a little Rf energy harvesting chip and they've raised 5 million bucks because they're in this race to use this air. Wireless energy harvesting.

Unbelievable. Wiggle uses Wi-fi Rf frequencies In this example. Wiggle is spectrum agnostic because they can just once they have the money they can just magically employ, employ all those Oompa Loompa design engineers to just magically implement their wankery patent to Bloody Just Just to Anything and make it practical. Yeah, if you believe that I get a bridge this earlier, but that's it.
Wiggle benefits like that's it. That's like their white paper schedule needs. Imagine a police department. What? and what? Cost savings, Cost avoidance, licensing opportunities, notice of allowance and fees due? what? Uh yeah.

Because they've got a patent. Oh, but they've got one of these. Like globe chart. What sliced? I don't know.

Is there any there's a name for that sliced globe thing? isn't there That like just shows volume instead of like charts or whatever. Anyway, let's go check out the pattern, shall we? Because they do actually link it on their web page. If you go to their web page, this link's over the this is the worldwide uh pattern. This was in 2017 2018.

You can go to the Us one. There's actually two of them. Um, I actually found two of them. I found this one and this one.

and they do have different numbers. So yeah, I'm not sure what the deal is there and both of them were granted and expire in 2037 apparently. So yeah. Anyway, this is the one linked to on their website, right? This is the marvelous innovative technology they got.

Let's check it out. Let's just have a quick look at the images here. I'll link in the pattern down below. You can go have a look at it for yourself.

But yeah, let let's go. They've got. Yeah, it's it's the same wankery image they had before. It's like, yeah, we can just like go from the land to the like, power the Tv and the light bulbs, and the you know it's oh well.

newfangled Leds these days And we've got something here about uh yeah, there's the antenna there and receivers. You can go like, look up the individual things, but it's It's a fairly generic pattern. They've got some filter in there and stuff some band pass filtering or whatever. But but yeah, that that's just like a mains that's just a full wave bridge rectifier into here.

and it's like the the scope of this thing. I don't know. I'd have to talk to uh Phil of course, who's my patent attorney, uh, brother-in-law and um, he could like tell us the scope of this thing and like. But anyway, it was.

Granted, let's just read the abstract. Certain exemplary embodiments can provide a system which comprises a multi-point power charger. The multi-point power charger is couplable to an electrical energy source. Wow.

Great. So far, the multi-point power charger constructed to emit a plural plurality, plural plurality. I got it of directional beams. Each of the plurality of directional being I'd never become a patent attorney of directional beams is directed towards a determined direction of an electronic device that is chargeable via a multi-point power charger.
Once again, in their demonstrations, they're not demonstrating directional beaming technology. This is just insane. They've got nothing. They've got the only technology that they have based on publicly available information, which is all investors can do when they put their money into this thing.

The only thing they have available is this off-the-shelf demo. And it's not directional. It doesn't demonstrate any proprietary technology at all, and from anyone with a calculator can see that they're actually receiving 2.5 million watts. and they admit this.

That's all off the shelf technology. They have nothing I don't know, I like. I'm not even going to go through like I've read some of it. They're talking about formation of ad hoc networks, calculates a position of the electronic device.

So they're talking about, you know, general position in technology and stuff like that. It's just oh god. Like, I don't know how this was granted. The System of claim: The multi-point power is constructed to determine the location of the electronic device, direct one of the plurality of directional beams towards a determined location.

Electronic device to charge your power The electronic devices and provide the plurality of directional beams via radio frequency in the general location. Like to self-charge and reach or recharge. This is just generic. A signal is received by multi-point power charger indicating that a charger requests from the electronic device.

Plurality of directional beams like this is just. these are the claims. The multi-point is constructed to provide electrical energy wirelessly to any divide detector device and request electrical energy like. The only thing of worth that they've got is this patent which could be used by patent trolls.

Maybe, but as if you're going to take on the likes of these companies with this little piece ant? generic patent? Yeah, good luck with that. There's a plurality of local oscillators, a plurality of band pass filters, plurality of phase shifters, and a plural god I cannot say that word to save my life of power amplifiers. multi-point power charges selected from plurality of multi-point power charges. I'm was there a patent attorney paid by the plurality.

This is just no. no, no. Like there is nothing here. Please read it and leave it in the comments because I'm I'm going brain dead just reading this like there's nothing in here.

There's nothing. They've got nothing. We've got another video demonstration. Yeah, yeah, here it is.

Here's their big one, which I was talking about. This is the one demonstrated they were charging an iphone 4s. Here we go. This is their big demonstration charging iphone.

or it's got some ribbon cable there. That's nice. Has no charging system attached. Look at this.
This looks complicated. Once again. a four-way divider. Okay, and there it is.

again. there are the off-the-shelf Rf diagnostic modules like this. They've got four of them and it's hooked up. They got a big capacitor on there and this is what they're doing.

Unbelievable. Wow. We're getting the whole 4.3 to 5.2 volts out. They're electrolytic.

you capacitors would have guessed. Yeah. There you go. They actually tell you it's an off-the-shelf receiver.

There it is there. it is. Music's funky. Am I going to get demonetised? Gonna get flagged? I can't believe the balls of them.

You gotta hand it to them. They readily admit that this is just simple Rf energy harvesting using off-the-shelf devices. Unbelievable. Oh, look at that.

Look at that energy system is charging the compositor. What's a compositor? The solar engine. What? Okay, what's a compositor and what's a solar engine? huh? I don't get it discharges when it reaches 5.2 volts. and once again, they show the phone is actually detected a voltage.

But you saw the actual tests like two years later. More than two and a half years after this video, they've done this test over here which shows that it only receives two and a half milli watts milliwatts. I'm not even going to insult anyone's intelligence by running the numbers. Even if the phone charging circuitry could accept the full 5.2 milliwatts, it's going to take more than that to drive that screen, let alone charge the what 10 watt hour battery or whatever is inside modern smartphones.

Almost 5 000 people back this thing for almost 5 million. But come on Dave, They've got to have more videos than this, surely? Well, here's their uh, July 2021 wiggle. This was only two weeks ago where I haven't looked at this one yet. So let's let's have a look at this.

Yep, Yep. Oh, I'm sold. I'm sold. Look at that.

Okay, this is interesting. Look, let's can we get Yeah, we got full full resolution on that. This? is their latest demo as of a couple of weeks ago. It looks like they've got.

Okay, so the big Pcb is just split in the middle. They've used two. Is that just like a giant dipole antenna using two, you know, Fr4 Pcb plates little patch antennas. So they got two, four, six, eight, ten ten patch antennas receiver.

So they got the same off the shelf energy harvesting units like that they might now have. They might now have a custom Pcb like that, but once again, that that's that. That's all they show is that it dries past and it switches on right? What? What does that even show? Oh, it showed that it switched off at the end. There, it switched off.

I, I, I don't what. So they get in tens of milliwatts now. Maybe I Wiggle Tech Talk: This is just. this is pretty recent.

This is December 2020. they've given a tech talk. I have not watched it. so they're just.
I believe that's that's the founder. They're talking about Wiggles. Smart Power, blah blah blah blah blah blah and then on on devices generation. One pool of concept demos and Mvp do what? Dongles, Add-on dual mode dongles? Very easy because I don't know.

Oh oh, here we go. Oh, we do get a close-up. We do get a close-up Oh, here we go. I found some data.

look at this trend. They're now transmitting at three watts. No, there's a decimal point in there. Two Point: They're still transmitted Two point Four Wiggle Uh.

frequency independent. Again, a 21 dbi gain. A fixed beam um of azimuth and elevation. Okay, cascadable to collect more power.

Okay, so it's cascadable to collect more power of course. and they've got there. Have they done a custom board with the energy harvesting chip now? Highly efficient. Patch Antennas measured 5 volts at five milliamps for each patch.

Expected to be 25 milliamps. No, Not expected. This is what you measured: Five volts at five milliamps? Geez, I might have to get my confuser again for this. Five volts times Five milliamps G: 25 milliwatts, 25 milliwatts Ability to connect them in parallel to increase the connected power is that is that one.

Is that one of them? I don't think one of them you saw that in the previous video. They had six or even nine of them. Only produced 2.5 milliwatts. Phase array antenna Tx power 2 watts safe Wi-fi transmit frequency fixed beam of 30 Yep, Yep.

Okay, okay let's go System Here we have we have two areas we have on one side the transmit power and there is. We have the receiver on the other side and on the back of it we have a device that we that's being charged. In this case, you're using a phone. This is for a different application that we're using, but we're using just the phone to tell us that we are receiving power and that's the quick video that we're going to show over here.

Professor, can you play the video? Please play the video. Okay so so this is the device that as you can see the phone is receiving power and then it's being charged and all these wires here are just a prototype. That's why we have we refer to as a proof of concept. The next step is clean up all the wires and make something smaller.

Okay go ahead. So once again they say the phone is charging. This is the phone being charged and that's on the receiver side is on the back of the receiver. They won't tell you what level.

As I said we're just using him as to tell us that our system is really working. It's classic. So many companies have done this. Oh, our system works because the iphone detected a voltage and displays a charging system inside as you see this is we use power candidates and this is one way for us to form the beam that I talked to you about that has a smart to follow you.

In this case here we have a fixed beam because for a prototype and this beam is fixed to direct direction between the transmitter and the receiver and that's how we transfer power. In the next stage what we do is we will bring in the smarts for this beam to be able to follow the receiver. And by the way, it has to know where the receiver is even though you are indoors because so this tech doesn't exist, his emitter doesn't exist yet. Yes, this is the transmitter side, the transmitter and stop.
And just very important to note that we're using the same 2.4 gigahertz. It doesn't mean that we have to use it, but this is what we're using over here. We can use any frequency that we use. It has to be a frequency that's not licensed because there are two types of frequencies that are licensed and unlicensed licensed.

The one that the Verizons and the Atp use and the unlike that the one that the Wi-fi and all the other people use. we are using the unlicensed one. Go on. This shows the test instrument and again this is the lab environment that's an experiment.

As you can see it's we're trying once again. The issue with all of these is they never tell you what the true power and we have the transmitter here. Basically we have a small patches and again we have electronics in there. The next step is to remove all these wires and miniaturize everything.

But for this you just use it with our lab and the reason we need wires because we have a way we need a way for ask engineers to be able to connect and disconnect things to test. Good luck miniaturizing your antennas. Yeah again this is the receiver side and from here it will show that actually we are receiving power and that power made it in such a way that the Apple Phone iphone can receive it and power. So really, in the real application you would have noticed in Generation One which they're called large capacitors on there.

Now just to point out, you'll see the capacitors. look at that. They're Huge. They're absolutely enormous.

You can store a lot of energy in those, so they don't tell you how long they've been harvesting the energy to put into those capacitors which then charges the smartphone. Sure, this I I have no doubt that this phone is charging. You could put you can store a ton of energy in a bank of capacitors that big that will charge a smartphone probably at you know, like 500 milliamps or something like that. Once again, they don't even demonstrate that.

I'm surprised that they don't do that. They don't put a current meter on a Usb current meter here and and show you that this is charging at 500 milliamps because that'd be real quality smoke and mirrors then. Um, and this is you know the same wasn't the Rca energy device. Uh, same to this.

And there's been other wireless energy startups that have done the same sort of thing. They use energy harvesting to charge up a battery or a, you know, a graphene capacitor, or you know, something like a supercap or a large bank of capacitors and then use that to charge the phone. And then they claim that they've got this remarkable technology that they can, uh, that will harvest the energy that they can transmit power with Like it's no, it's just. this is energy harvesting.
They admit this is energy harvesting. They show you the in the actual measured Uh values in the other video. We're talking in the order of milliwatts. Here, we're talking 25.

Well, they even set it here like 25 milliwatts, right? This is not going to charge your phone, but when you harvest the energy over hours and hours and days and days into these caps up here, Yes, you'll be able to charge this phone at, you know, probably 500 milliamps. So I have no doubt this is actually charging. But that's that's that's not the point. but that doesn't prove at all that this stuff works like to transmit useful power at energy, let alone charging laptops, Tvs, street lamps, electric vehicles.

This is just it's Nhrf Energy harvesting. People just invested five million dollars for Rf energy harvesting ugh to follow you and then you will no longer need any any charging cable, just follow you around. That's basically what you have for the video here. It shows that we have hardware that we're testing and it does what we advertise that it does.

Okay, no it does not do what you've advertised. It does That comes up in here. Now I told you what our system does and I showed you what it does for the next slide. So this is a a real world use case.

And if you're like us that went through airports the most frustrating getting you okay, they're getting into use cases. Okay, we've seen the ability potentially to have infinite heart. I I when I walk around looking for infinite power, I want that to be infinite. I want to hand off from the wi-fi network.

I was on infinite power. Get back on my Wi-fi network to infinity. And beyond that's Twitter. So as I laid in right, if you understand the concept of how wi-fi works, you're already a wiggle expert.

If you understand the concept of wi-fi you're already a wiggle expert. Oh, that's that's gold. It's important is because we all want that Infinite mobility. Phones, computers, tablets, gaming, pcs, global collective of humans.

We use a lot of power. The Department of Defense is just going to lock this up. Electricity? Um, I'm stuck in this one. I'm always the guy that go through the transmitters and receivers we're getting.

You would log in if you're at the airport. You said this stuff works in the middle shopping cases. I'll hold up this little. this little other guy right? We've already taken uh, where you saw with Sharif where he had, uh kind of the the big prototype stuff which is we're going to mention we've already done.

We've already done that. We're now exploring getting more capability, getting better, a hard standard of energy and harvesting. You now have the capability through some agreements to move this technology even further. We can develop the technology even further.
No, you can't develop the technology even further because it's energy harvesting. There is only so much little piss ant amount of energy you can get from Rf energy harvesting. You cannot beat the laws of physics Captain. I don't think a single person listening to this has stopped and thought, what do you mean when it says wi-fi Because you already know what Wi-fi is.

Wi-fi has a definition to you in your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no no, it's just pure marketing wankery. But there you go. There you go.

That is their latest tech. They might have divine designed a custom receiver board there Um, yeah, that that could be a custom receivable. but once again, it's Rf energy harvesting. They have no steerable technology at all.

They have some useless generic pattern which will. I may have some legal value, but that their technology is nothing. it's Rf energy harvesting. This is just a complete and utter embarrassment.

They raised 4.85 million Yankee bucks. Still, with 12 days left, they might get to their 5 million. I'd be surprised if they don't for Rf energy harvesting. Unbelievable anyway.

But let's actually go to the comments here because this one seven days ago from Seth H. A skeptic. Oh, he's not. He's not A true believer.

but wow, I come from a long line of true believers. Sheen lead, true believer. Boom. They just flew away.

Oh, you gonna walk away from me, huh? I saw a bunch of reindeer fly into the nice guy. I am not crazy. Yes, you are. I'm fairly confused as to why so many people have committed the money to back in this project.

I see some major issues with the offering. This is from the business side of things, let alone the technology side of things as we've looked at. Are there any approvals or licenses for home or public use? I didn't see anything in the literature. Sixty percent of the maximum offering.

Five million dollars is earmarked to go to salary for the next 18 months. So I guess he's read he's done his due diligence. He's read that full uh, disclosure agreement and only one percent. 50k is going towards R D.

Really? Anyway, we've got a response down below. The total number of shares being offered only represents uh, eight percent of the would-be total shares outstanding with another and 81 of the shares outstanding belonging to the founder who will be taking the highest salary of the group of course. And the the valuation, this company's worth at 56 million dollars with no revenue besides a single contract from the Cio's company. But the most recent valuation, the company was only 0.2 cents per share when the owner contributed the pattern and logo valued at around 165 000 for his 83 million shares in the company.
Nearly 10 times as many shares as being offered here for 5 million. None of these things add up to something I would consider investing in even with a large scale, proven concept and operational devices neither of which exist. Yes, he's correct. There is no even small scale.

Yes, there's proven that you can harvest Rf energy. Wow, that's like big shock. That's what the off the shelf Rf Devices module does. It harvests Rf energy and they've proven that you can get you know, like in the order of milliwatts, tens of milliwatts, maybe with enough input power like and just calculate the efficiency.

Imagine if the whole world and once again, just like you beam. imagine the if the whole World adopted Wiggle technology. Yes, you can pump hundreds of watts into an Rf transmitter and maybe you might be able to get you know a few hundred milliwatts out of it or something like that to sl barely trickle charge your smartphone when it's off. Um, but it's no, it's dumb, it's done.

Just no. I'm giving him too much credit already. Here's a reply from the founder. No need to post anonymously.

We are open and glad to respond. I'm glad that they're open and they are responding. Maybe they'll respond to this video and all the comments on this video. Yes, Wiggle is tested and planned to transmit at 2.4 gig at 1 watts.

There you go. It's planned that is their plan to transmit well within Fcc limits. so they want to be within Fcc limits. so they've already proven.

unless they can magically change the laws of Rf Energy Harvest in physics. And like, even if you, even if you did, steerably beam this thing like you're only talking like, what? Single digit percentages? Barely. Not even. Um.

We are also partnering with companies, some competitors working to remain compliant with the Fcc and other bands. Yes, our Sec filing we show a significant growth hiring plan to get to market quickly, Market with what? what have you got? You've got nothing. You've got Rf energy harvesting chips? What? What are they going to do like? it's not going to charge a phone. As for R D in the finance, we also show Dod funding for those activities so they are not listed in the use of investor funds.

Good old Uncle Sam. Funny money. Fantastic. They won the Dod contract.

Really? Yes, this is a seed round on Reg Cf for a technology with global demand. This isn't shark tank seeking equity split with Vcs Wiggle is offering based on the Sec reg. I don't know what all this is and it's pretty good math for folks investing 250 to 100k. Really? No, I tell you where your money's going to go in this.

it's going to go into their salaries until the company is can well get more money and then they'll drive that money into the ground because they won't have a practical product. Maybe like you beam and I'll be very generous. Maybe like you beam if they actually pivot early and go into, you know, with 5 million bucks, you can do some decent R d you might be able to pivot. Maybe if you get some of the best engineers pivot into a some sort of you know, energy harvesting thing for Internet of Things low power.
While you know sensor nodes or something like that, you may be able to eke out a niche market there, but you're not going to be able to charge a freaking smartphone, let alone anything else. Those 80k shares you mentioned were available in future rounds. Potentially higher valuation, blah blah blah. Prior to being the Ceo currently Cso, his company worked walked the concept of Wiggle into his Dod industry client in 2019.

They love Wiggle and contractor Wiggle in January 2020 before the company had called Wiggle Inc. So this company contracted the work and we saw Coach and demonstrated the tech bringing Wiggle links. I'd love to see. I wonder if because this is all government funded, I wonder if anyone can find it.

Please provide a link down below to the test results from their department of if it's available test results from the Department of Defense helmet. Like they're recharging that helmet like because you know really advanced helmets These days they're going to need a lot of power. We can smack Rf on the back of their head like this to try and um, get them to like to the i don't know, tens of watts at least required for their vision helmet, the smart vision helmets in the cockpits or whatever. Oh boy, wireless power isn't new or unproven.

Awesome. Never as energy harvesting. Also, that's why they're using off-the-shelf modules. Also in the following is data about our competitors and major industry players already successfully in this space.

They're not even close. Not even these get like, not even close to what the other companies are doing. Unbelievable. At this time, Wiggle is not interested in selling most of the company to a single individual or Vc who acquires greater than 50 at lower valuation.

We come to start engine so the average investor could share in investing in a startup and absolutely guaranteed waste of money. Like, unless they can maybe flip the company to someone dumber like a year or two down the track. That would be the only out in this. There's only two outs either to flip the company to, you know, some other dumber investor willing to invest in this, or they can, you know, pivot into some real industry niche for ultra low power Rf energy harvesting.

This is not demonstrably guaranteed by the laws of engineering and physics. not going to charge a smartphone in any practical capacity, let alone anything else. This is just utter rubbish. and I'm sorry to the 4752 investors, but yeah, you've just flushed your money down the toilet anyway.

sorry about the length of this video, That's it's. just absolutely hilarious that they're just using this off the shelf. um, stuff. Even even now I I believe even this custom what looks like maybe a custom board up here is probably just using those Rfr devices chips.
and there's massive capacitor banks to trickle charge the Rf power, and then prove that they charge a phone with the Rf harvested power. No, Remove those. I'll be impressed when you remove those capacitors, desolder them from that board, and show us using one or two watts of transmit power across five or ten feet charging a phone with a Usb power meter. Then everyone in the engineering community will go, Oh yeah, this is legit.

Until then. Nah, that's a thumbs down. Catch you next time you.

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21 thoughts on “Eevblog 1408 – $5m wigl wireless charging busted!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars madb 13 says:

    One note. Where the hell are you going to get any device that transmits 2 watts? of RF power in the home?? Unless you are going to keep your Microwave oven running 24/7 but then defeats the object! What a dick head and and SCAMMER! Every Radio Ham will be laughing they head of at this.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Whoisnt Whoisit says:

    They couldn't even make sure that the product does not cover the 2nd electrical plug, I guess if WiGL worked you wouldn't care right? Haha

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars QueHubo Parcero says:

    These guys are geniuses. They just fleeced a bunch of idiots for $5mm, by simply looking like they know what they're talking about. Fake it till you make it! I bet these idiots knew from the beginning this would never work, its all a cash grab

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Immanatum says:

    Hands up, who ever made a crystal radio receiver)
    Also, for educational purposes, I ask the EEVblog to show how long it takes to charge a Panasonic CG-320A cell.

    EDITED: I HAVE A VERY NEW BRAN ECOLOGICAL WAY TO GET WIRELESS POWER!!!
    by using array of microphones, which will consume city noises and convert it into a power(here must be a trailer: a modern city, with huge amounts of cars, people, exaggerated city soundscape. And then nice voice asks "What if unpleasant harmful environment could be used as new endless, infinite energy source?". Then CGI image of dildoalike microphones on the corners of every building, bus stops, cars, even hats and backpacks! – and stupidly happy people, who charge their device's (up to Teslas – CGI image where Tesla has a huge microphone plugged instead of charger).
    Goddammit, going to patent this.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joel Murphy says:

    and just found this on the startengine page. It's a fine print item, came across it looking for the comments that Dave mentioned.

    "Irregular Use of Proceeds
    The Company might incur Irregular Use of Proceeds that may include but are not limited to the following over $10,000: Vendor payments. Salary payments made to one’s self, a friend or relative. Any expense labeled “Travel and Entertainment”. Inter company debt or back payments. Any expense labeled “Administrative Expenses” not strictly for administrative purposes."

    I'll just put that in my pocket then…

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matheus Moreira says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong. If a device transmits a continuous 2.5GHz high power RF signal through the air, Isn’t it effectively jamming any nearby devices operating at that same frequency? Please pardon my ignorance.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Controversial Opinion says:

    This is obviously a fairly well executed scam. The concept barely sound enough to fool the average joe and officals, no one with any experience in electronics would believe this is going to fly.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tom says:

    The only "effective" wireless energy transmission I have seen is HIGHLY directional (can't remember what portion of the spectrum it used) and needed to follow the receiver with a beam while having line of sight.
    The problem with wireless transmission of power….. when you send power into the air the power you put in is spread out, even if you manage to focus on a 15 degree cone and have a 1ft square receiver (a big tablet that somehow gets antennae 1 ft square) at 15 feet away your energy is 1/12th of your transmit power 120 watts input to get 10 watts out. At 30 feet away you drop to 1/48th of the transmit power, 60 feet = 1/192
    So we switched to led lights to go from 60 watts down to 8 watts to save energy, then we decide to transmit power wirelessly….. to use 96 watts to drive an 8 watt device.
    Keep in mind these wonderful numbers I just came up with require an antenna that is able to receive 100% on a FULL 1 sqft area, that is a pretty big antenna for a tablet, let alone a phone.
    In order to run a smartphone at 1 watt with a 2 inch x 2 inch receiver, you have to fill the air in an airport with rf energy at an incidence of 36 watts per sq ft 99% of which is almost certain to be wasted. (in order to use the energy the entire surrounding area needs to have receivers to get the energy back.

    The fundamental math DOES not work. Even if you make something that "works" you have to WASTE huge amounts of energy to make it work, and it will be mediocre.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Raúl Cortes' Garage S13 says:

    That's not much different than sticking a solar cell and hitting it with a laser… I think my stupid idea is a bit better than that.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars le berger des photons says:

    I think that you are a shill or a fool. Instead of "busting" something which is fake, why aren't you spending your time searching for things which are real?

    It's obvious that they're out there. If they weren't, and if the universe is infinite, and if the Earth is 4 billion plus years old, with your antiquated stupid ideas, the Earth would be burnt to a crisp with nothing on it that could be burned for energy.

    It's sad that you haven't found something better to do with the knowlege you've accumulated in your life.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steamzombie1838 says:

    Hi, radio ham here. To actually power something with RF energy you would need to stand next to huge amount of power. It's not practical and with recent moves by governments to tighten up on RF exposure (even though RF radiation is not ionizing therefore will only cause heat in human tissue not cell damage) so I can't imagine the FCC allowing this to go into production and actually they maybe already breaking FCC rules in the amount of power they are using Unless they have a ham license (power use on 2.4 GHz for ham radio is 1500 watts in the US)
    …. Maybe I should set the same thing up with 1500 watts and get idiots to send me money, at least I could power something a bit more than an LED. It would be a bit crap to use 1500 watts to charge a phone, imagine the electricity bill if you had that running everywhere plus people would get hot and maybe get burns if they got too close to the transmitter! 🤣🤣🤣

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars avi8r66 says:

    They blocked me on facebook months ago for saying it was nonsense. And yeah, startengine is like kickstarter only without the annoyance (for the one raising money) of any actual deliverables.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mikiness Analog says:

    They got 5 million for basically nothing more than word salad LOL.
    One thing they did however get correct is I once powered a single white LED from a nearby AM radio station transmitting, but the circuit had to be tuned and THAT was indeed directional.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Justin Beaird says:

    So is this a Tesla coil? Will I have a lightning show in my home? The lightning show might be neat, "if I don't get electrocuted"..

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nick Wallette says:

    Potential new The Onion headline?

    "New Startup Fails To Innovate An Idea So Dumb Nobody Will Invest In It"
    Byline: 'I thought we had it this time.'

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jarrod Roberson says:

    5,000,778 they just scraped across the line. I wonder how much of that last bit of "funding" was shill so they would make it across the line and get the entire $5 million.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Fochtman says:

    Maybe I'm naive, but seems if you take the radiated power (say, 1 Watt in one of their demos) and spread that out over a sphere with radius of 4.5 ft, you get an energy density in the microwatts/ square cm range. So physical laws and the size of your receiver antenna limits your max power collection?

    Based on that, seems like a losing situation. Unless you want to set up hundreds in your home and pay for the kWatt-Hours of power you'll be wasting.

    But as they say, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bulls***". Guess that applies to startup investors as well.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BrosBrothersLP says:

    Also as someone that sadly had to deal with a bit of antenna design at University. Their transmissionantennas are horrible and in nor world matched to the Transmission cable. So if they wanna send out 1W of RF their gonnan need to input like 6+

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BrosBrothersLP says:

    its so weird that it looks like a university lab. Like is this a firstsemester that thought he is smarter than everyone theranos style???

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wha Na says:

    I love how they said it would only transmit 1W and still think they can power a car or plane with it. And also they lose >95% of the power

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jakob Rosenqvist says:

    So, a WiFi router can transmit at a maximum of 1W, a phone needs at least 1W to do any sort of useful charging and that is probably not enough for continuous use for most phones, so even if they where able to capture 100% of the output of the transmitter they would barely be able to charge a phone, and even that would violate the laws of thermodynamics.

    When the laws of thermodynamics says no it's time to give up.

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