Were the Made in USA Energizer Max Plus AAA batteries in the previous leaking battery video FAKE?
Dave found an identical genuine one and inspects and tears them down.
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Hi in a previous video linkedin at the end down below. if you haven't seen it, Uh, we took a look at uh, some leaking Energizer Max Plus batteries and um, this is something that I hadn't seen before. I've done a whole video on leaking. uh, batteries.

I've done several actually. Um, and now for an update. For those who are wondering, no, my ones in my controlled leakage test just not leaking. So yeah, I'm just giving up on that.

Murphy's just not going to let it happen. Anyway, these Energizer Max pluses, they leaked, but something I hadn't seen before. They actually leaked the, uh, the liquid potassium hydroxide inside. Um, I have actually cleaned these up a bit.

but uh, maybe you can see a bit left on the end perhaps? Yep, Yep, you can see some. just some of the crystals in there. Anyway, yeah, I've cleaned those up. You can just barely see the potassium hydroxide crystals there.

because if you don't and you can see the vents there, there's a vent hole there. There's another vent hole there. is that. It may be a clogged up vent hole there.

but uh, if if you don't know, alkaline batteries, um, are designed to vent like this. They're actually designed to leak so to speak. because if there's hydrogen pressure build up inside the battery due to, uh, the electrochemistry, which is due to lots of various things, this is why it's so hard to get these to leak under control test. just having no luck.

Anyway, hydrogen builds up inside, pressure builds up, and if the pressure gets too much, these vents are just like an electrolytic capacitor. For example, they'll have the vents on the top, the pressure builds up, they're designed to vent out, and what comes out is, um, essentially, the potassium hydroxide liquid. but I've never actually seen it leak in liquid form. At least I don't I don't recall.

anyway. so that video was rather, uh, fascinating, because what happens to the liquid potassium hydroxide inside these batteries when it leaks out is that it very quickly mixes with uh, the air, and in particular, carbon dioxide in the air. and it forms our potassium carbonate. And that's what you see.

Well, you can't see it on these ones. But anyway, maybe there's a few little little nuggets down there Is there. There you go. You can see the potassium carbonate crystal down in there, and that's what actually forms.

Um, fairly quickly. It forms. Uh, somebody on the previous video said it forms like within like a day or something. You know it forms pretty quick.

which is why, um, you know, Usually when you open up your product and you've had a battery leakage, you'll find the uh, carbonate crystals behind. You won't find the liquid. But we found the liquid on these puppies. so I've cleaned them up a bit.

And yes, they are dead. But a lot of people in the previous comments said oh, these are fake. These are obviously fake energizer batteries. They've never seen this branding before.
And the and and the date the 20 and the 12th. I assume that's 12th month 2031 and people said i've never seen date codes that long. These must be fake. I've never seen this branding in the Usa, etc etc.

Anyway, they're energizing max pluses So I thought that I would go to my local shopping center my local coals and see if they had any energizer batteries and they didn't Because the brand wars have been begun, they have begun. They have the brand wars and uh, they only sell Duracells and sell energizers. So I had to go to Woolies, Woolworths which is a like the two competing uh, big supermarket chains here in Australia and they sell just Energizer. They don't sell duracells so there you go.

Duracells are ones that usually are infamous for leaking so the energizer ones didn't and we just so happened to capture um, them leaking in their liquid for these energized leaking in liquid form. Anyway, they had them so I got them and they had two different max pluses. one is the max plus the regular max plus like this, the others the max plus advanced. Um, and both claim to have a 12-year shelf life on them.

And let's have a look at like these reorder part numbers: Ep92 4t Uh, this one's different there, but it's got slash Ep 92 Bp 4t so they're absolutely identical. You'll notice that the barcodes are the same for both of them and but these would be the that'd be the Coles barcodes would they? Anyway, So yeah, they're obviously like direct replacements, but one's the max plus ones, the Max plus Advanced. So the interesting thing is, so if I get these out of the packets, the Max plus Advanced looks different. Check it out.

They do look quite different, even though the Max plus this is the advanced one and it doesn't have advanced written on, it's just got Max plus the uh. the font is like a different like it's just all blue. Sorry, it's like all blue on this one with white. This one has the plus as black and stuff like that.

Anyway, um, these are 12th month 2030 for the max Plus, that's not a match. Okay, but so I've put a blue mark on the uh, dead, leaky one and this is the brand spanking new one I just got from the Uh supermarket. And of course they are the official distributors for Energizer. like they would buy directly from them.

There's absolutely no way my local Woolworths are selling fake energizers. It's just not going to happen. They'd have a countrywide brand deal. That's why they only sell Energizer, and that's why coals only sell Duracell, right? They've got like there's just brand wars going on.

Okay, this is absolutely crazy. Anyway, same Co. same expiry date 12th month, 20 31 and they look absolutely identical. Everything is the same.

like go in here and like let's let's have a look at like smaller like the uh, the you know the R for the registered trademark. the trademark down there looks identical the like. like the silver in back In on that. All of the printing looks absolutely identical.
Between these, there's absolutely no difference. And this head, this is the leaky one. Uh, fourth month 19. As soon or fourth week, that might could be fourth week or fourth month.

I'm not sure if you know, leave it down below. Anyway, Oh Four 19a. You'd expect this one to be different. It's actually O3 19a.

So the ones I bought look like they were manufactured before these ones that leak. But everything is the same between these. So there's absolutely no way that these things are fake. Um, no.

sorry. But the leaky ones were genuine. Just look at the font, look at like these are inkjet printed. Just look at how they're how they're printed.

They're like it comes out of the same machine. I, I swear it does the s up there and you know start like these are No, these have come out from the same machine. So made in the Usa Usa. Both are made in Usa um Energizer brands St.

Louis, um Mo. Missouri is it? So there you go, there's uh I don't know what Sni is. um anyway, no these are like even this, I have no idea what that number if you do know, let us know in the comments down below. but they're absolutely identical.

So these were purchased. Um, apparently he's he had these for quite, uh, some time. But Hal from the Eev blog forum who, uh, sent these in as part of the mailbag product and they just happened to leak by the time they got here. they would have been fine when he installed them and he was.

It was actually in a Gps tracker. so it was actually running and he left it running. Sending here wasn't trying to find out he knows the location of my lab. It's okay, it doesn't matter.

Um, it was just anyway. this Gps uh tracker that I was going to do a mailbag teardown of. Um, yeah, he just left it running and obviously left them running. And then they drained down because I've had it on the bench for quite some time.

So there you go. Yep, they're absolutely identical, so I hope that's cleared that up. These are not fake. The genuine energizers leaked, so I guess the only thing left to do is to rip them apart.

But I like they're going to be the same inside, no doubt. Yeah, and as we saw in the previous video, um I think look, look, something's gone wrong. That's that isn't the light like I think that the uh, alkali, um, potassium hydroxide is as looks like it started to eat away. Probably the metallic I guess.

Like that is that a metallic sort of like finish in there? Anyway, it has started to eat away at that, so that's that is rather interesting. I'm not sure if anyone knows exactly how that you know what's I. I assume that that was caused by the uh leak, but yeah. anyway, if anyone's got any thoughts on that, let us know.

But uh yeah, I think they're usually like a metallic coating. Aren't they Some sort of yeah because that's just like a metallic coated paper paper or something to get it to look like that. There you go. It looks like there's a yeah, it's the paper underneath with the plastic wrap on top.
So yeah, that's the thing. That's yeah. So I got under there. I think it must have got under there and started to eat away.

It must have got under the plastic wrap and started to eat away at the at the paper on there. Yeah, there you go. Now let's take a look at this. It looks like that positive terminal is not actually connected through to the battery to the case.

Sorry, but it should be electrically connected because I've done a video on this. It was a Batterizer video. One of the problems with the batterizer is that they didn't realize that the metal can was actually connected to the positive terminal. In most batteries.

They do as some do actually differ and the bottom of the battery is going to have the and the negative terminal. of the battery like this has a um, insulating seal around it. that's part of the vent that might might be separate the vent and the insulating seal. But anyway, yeah, that's electrically isolated and I can show you this.

This is a good one. I scraped away the can there. This is the positive end of the battery. You can see directly electrically connected whereas you go to the bottom end.

it ain't there. But you put that on a good older volts and bingo. There we go. And the can is positive.

So if you've got a product that accidentally pierces the outer skin of your battery like this, you can actually and it's connected to ground, you can actually short out your batteries. It can actually be quite dangerous and that was one of the issues with the batterizer and they um, acknowledge that and they like put extra code in on it. extra special woo-woo coating on it to make it not do that. Anyway, yeah, just uh.

just remember that with batteries little trap for young players. Okay, I wonder if I can Just yeah. there you go. Top end there.

It looked like there was a seal, but there wasn't It was just uh welded on top there. That's the positive. directly electrically connected to the can. Now I'm not actually going to go in and completely dissect uh, these things because it is just horrible messy business.

But I just did the end of the leaky one here and you can see the uh, you can see all the crud inside like that, so don't try this at home kids. Um, yeah, this is real messy business so I have no doubt that they're absolutely identical in that regard might be able to get through to our core. Oh, there we go. Is that a separator? That's interesting? Is it not? Yeah, This is not like you know something that you can unroll like a lithium-ion battery.

It's different. Uh, different construction. Unfortunately, you can't just like peel off the can and then unroll the whole thing. It doesn't work like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah. There we go. Yeah, there we go.

Yeah, out comes the looks like little tree roots or something. It's fascinating. Ah says horrible business. I should be wearing gloves shouldn't I? Oh, check it out.

It's bubbling. It's bubbling. Look at this. I just cut this bad boy open.

Yes, I did drain it first. Um, but it's wow. Oh, that's not good would be. Yes, I did.

I did drain it fully. I used my torch to, uh, dry it. But you know the ionic resistance? it's gonna. It's still got some energy left in it, whereas the other ones would have been completely dead.

So this one still has a bit of juice. Uh, literally. Anyway, that here it is. Wow.

Anyway, I'll see if I can get a screwdriver in there and crack her open. I have a little dig, but I expect it to be absolutely identical to the other one. There we go, so looks pretty identical doesn't it? Let's have a go you mug. Still a bit moist.

It's excited to see me. Yeah, Oh oh. look at that. Oh was that like a was there a surface on that? Was there a silver? Do I imagine that? flip your mongrel? Oh no.

no. I think yeah no no it was just the light. Okay, that was just a light catching off of that. But oh yeah.

Look, you can see the core. There you go. There you go. This one's a little bit better.

You can see the core and I can dig. Dig some of that out for you. There you go. It's exactly the same.

this one. oh well, I don't know that stuff. Oh there we go. on the bottom.

anyway. Yeah, it's like you can't tell because like as I said, you can't like unroll these and peel them apart and take them and do a direct. You know I you. You know there's probably techniques you could do, But um, yeah, so that's probably the best I'm going to be able to do.

There you go. So no, it's not fake. The new one of course is as moist. the other one's been there for.

like I don't know. I've been moving offices, removing labs for like a month, so it's been at least that maybe a couple of months. Oh, that one's all dry and crusty. but the new one, it's moist or still had some charge left.

It would have recovered the voltage because I just drained it down with a torch. I didn't actually measure it, but I know for a fact that it would recover. Ah, my blade just fell off my knife. There we go.

Tighten that sucker back up. Anyway, that's really fascinating. Um, these are not counterfeit. Please leave it in the comments down below if you think you spotted something.

But like everything. right down to like a little details on the silk screen and everything. It's absolutely perfect. So I have no doubt whatsoever that the two leaky energizer uh, max plus batteries.

They were. well, there. there's one of them. There it is, and I have no doubt that they were completely genuine.
So there you go. They just leaked. Now, energizers leak too. No, the Lithiums aren't going to leak.

It's a phenomenon of alkaline batteries. So uh, that they do this so you know there's supposedly leak. You know, proof versions that they've been engineered better. But yeah, Duracell certainly don't seem to care.

Um, and energizer? Well, they won't. They leak too. So anyway, thank you for those that commented that these might have been fake and they certainly could have been. Um, but it was worth checking.

I was able to find the exact one, so that was a win. so that was rather interesting. So if you like that, please give it a big thumbs up. As always, discuss down below: check out my other channels here.

No up here, over there, somewhere, whatever up there you know what to do. Catch you next time you.

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24 thoughts on “Eevblog #1350 – fake energizer batteries?”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GUI YING says:

    I can't seem to find these batteries in any Eastern Beaches Woolworths…
    Something's up, seeing plenty of NRG brands..
    And they all leak, one way or another..

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mini Mic says:

    i had energizer d batteries leak, left them in a toy when I was four. in may of 2020 I took a look inside and only two out of the three leaked

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ard Vangern says:

    This brand naming business reminds me of washing powder/liquid companies. They have nothing new to invent, because the technology is old and common. No miracles are possible. So they just invent new names for the same product. Old wine in new bottles 😛

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars chocolate squiggle says:

    I've had Energizer "Industrial" labelled AA's leak in my Brother label printer about 5 years ago. I don't know what they claim, they were just in the stationery cabinet at work. But I simply don't believe any claim about 'leak proof' alkalines.
    I tend to use Ni-MH for most things anyway and though I've read they can leak, I've never experienced that yet. My Eneloops are coming up to 10 years service now.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul Allen says:

    I have had endless leakage problems Duracell batteries. This has been happening for quite a while now. I thought that it was age related but it has happened on recent batteries as well. Both AA and AAA.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars baldrickaus says:

    Best batteries are made in Japan. I have a Casio calculator bought in 1981 that still has the 2 AA Casio batteries, no leak and they still work fine. I’m not joking.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars tjsynkral says:

    Duracell doesn't have to worry about this problem. Their batteries are so terrible, nobody would pretend to be genuine Duracell.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars migsven surfing says:

    Mostt likely the tracker was on when shipped and it took weeks for it to arrive in Australia (not Austria) As we know you most often leave the mailbag laying around for month.

    Drycells often leak soon if they are completely discharged and it is all of them.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars LinieKran11 says:

    Hey, I watched this video a week ago and a couple of days my mother came to me, because her electrical furnace (just for decoration, no heating) broke. I looked at it and it ran with batteries, with Energizer batteries, and one of them leaked. It was the same fluid, that came out of them, didn't crystalize right away. Those were original ones, that were just a couple of days old.
    btw I'm from Germany.
    Thank you very much for this video.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brian Gregory says:

    Wait, what? Batteroo Batterizers actually exist and there are enough of them that some have actually shorted out batteries?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Reuben Rodgers says:

    Energizer batteries are garbage now. They perform so poorly and they always leak on me. They where good way back bun now they just went cheepo.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars z man says:

    They tell us not to disassemble due to fire risk. I was expecting at least a little smoke, but all we got was bubbling liquid. These batteries are soooo disappointing! Maybe a short circuit would be more dramatic…

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Idelacio says:

    Eh, when you get one leak it usually eats through the other so not all that unexpected. It's why I keep the alkaline batteries seperated as I've lost batches due to one faulty battery. :-T

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hayward Haunter says:

    I assume the venting happens when the internal pressure exceeds the external air pressure by some margin. So if the external air pressure were reduced, that would increase the chance of a leak. Might the leaky batteries have traveled by air mail and thus spent some time in the in a cold, low pressure cargo hold of an airplane?

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brad Noyes says:

    Question, the GPS tracker didn't happen to be sent via air mail did it? Could the pressure changes that occur during flight have sped up the leakage process?

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ThatMontmorency says:

    Some commenter under the previous video concluded that they are "fake" just because they don't look like the US market batteries… I wonder what the IQ of that commenter is…

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Raven says:

    My favorite comments are the morons who say "these batteries must be fake because they don't look like the ones we have in the EU (or USA).. as if they expect the packaging to be identical between countries/regions. Hell, quite a number of American sold brands have different labeling and packaging just right across the borders in Canada and Mexico. Ignorant people.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars darkknight145 says:

    The problem with these batteries is that they are made in US, whereas the normal Energisers are made in Singapore.
    Maybe the US ones have COVID, hence spilling their guts everywhere.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ßri says:

    I think the Positive terminal not being attached properly may be the culprit on the ones that leaked. The machine that rolls the negative end over the seal would have too much pressure if the overall length was too long because of the positive terminal being welded wrong. To much pressure could squeeze the seal and damage it.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stop Telling Me What To Write says:

    All major battery brands that I purchased in last 5 years have leaked… They are all shit now. Buy a 25-50 pack in plastic containers and at least a few will leak within a year or two. Lol. Looks like the battery shell usually leaks in the seam due to crap seal or thinner-than ever metal being eaten away.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Susie Bruffett says:

    SNI is an Indonesian Standard for certification of safety for a specified appliance. It’s similar to UL logo. There are many ways to certify for safety and meet regulatory rules for IEEE. It appears that Energizer chose to certify these batteries to an SNI standard. The MSDS should be looked at before handling any type of small cell battery. It’s a google search away.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Роман Сорокин says:

    in the 90s he studied in elementary school, for the sake of interest he disassembled the spent energizer AA. from the substance of the negative electrode, a shiny ball rolled in, only after a while I realized that it was mercury …

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars world technical 3M says:

    hi

    sir i am irfan from pakistan

    please you can help to me about 1mini circuit

    i want make the circuit of sensor proximity analog distance (xm30-3015pmu) it has a function

    we have a sensor distance 15mm from metal it give dc10v …14mm=9v….13mm=8v…12mm=7v depending on the metal 0-10v vari with distance

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cossiedriver RS says:

    VERY nearly the same. But the +ve ends look VERY slightly different? And the printing IS different… Not much, but it is. Look at the "N" in "Alcaline"

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