After 6 years my home solar power installation failed!
But *what* component failed? let's find out..
FYI: The isolator is a Bendict LS25 PFLH4
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Hi update on my home solar power system here which I've done quite a few videos on and I've had it for I Think about six years now and it's finally failed. There's something wrong with it I Got an alert from my solar analytics system and it's like I thought ah, maybe there's a glitch in the system or something like that and it actually I came out and checked and that way it came good but then a day later it died again and it's I'm getting absolutely nothing. So sorry about the wind noise here. It's blowing a gale here today.

so anyway, let's have a quick squeeze here. This is my Sonny Boy inverter and that's the AC input. That's my DC isolator switch. These DC isolator switches, By the way, there is a shocking amount of these on the Australian market that have been a recall to put up a screen capture and I don't believe mine is one of them, although the brand is affected in HP but this particular model I don't think is.

but I don't know how they can recall so many isolator switches. All they do is switch. It's it's just a switch on and off and one of them even failed that. you had one job and it failed.

Oh, he comes the wind again. Anyway, you might think that my inverters not working high, but it's actually got a touch sensor. There we go. It actually works just fine, but there's zero power coming from the array up there so well they're coming from the input and which comes from over here.

so there's just nothing. so I presume that it's something to do with the either the isolator or the one other strings. Well, these I've only got one string here. It's supposed to be four hundred and fifty six volts.

I've got twelve panels all in series. so of course if you get one of the panels failing, then, well, you're screwed. Your strings just going to die and that's it. You'll get nothing out of the things.

So anyway, first thing I'm going to do is measure to see that we've actually got voltage coming from the roof. So there we go. We take the panel off that and you can see that it's just a big switch block in there, and then two wires coming from the top from the array. and then we just got the two wires going out.

So it's just a dual pole switch there. and let's measure it. Although we can actually use a non-contact voltage detector, of course you can detect mains like that. it's beeping.

not sure if you can hear that beeping or not. and if we hold it up here, that's on high sensitivity mode too. So because these two are DC and AC its building or multimeter, but it's the same as those. No fluke AC Voltage non-contact our voltage stick.

So yeah, that's not a good sign. I Think we're gonna measure zero? Hang on. So let's plot probe in there. and yep, we're getting zippity-doo-dah So nothing coming from the string.

so ever one of the panel's has failed. or maybe the dodgy isolator switch up the top. There's so many of them. and here's my array.

You've seen it before. The wind has died down just a bit and there we go. Right here it comes. twelve panels and same isolator switch as we got down there.
the In HP one so it looks looks like to see it. look. all the plastic is deteriorated there so that's completely cactus. So I don't know, its water gotten in there causing something.

Anyway, the penetrator into the roof. that still seems okay. Oh Yep, there's your problem. There's actually water in that.

and look at all that corrosion that has come from down here. Check it out. Not sure how that's showing up but all that sludge and everything. So yep, fail.

It's the isolator switch. Wow Yeah so plastic is just totally deteriorated near that and the seal keep the couldn't keep the water out. So yep. well.

I Guess you know, six years all the plastics going to degrade with the UV and stuff like that so ya have to get that replaced. But yep. I'm really I don't think there's another. I Don't think there's a problem with my panel so panels are still looking good.

Great condition after six years from that. Wow, that's terrible. Muriel Okay, let's probe this. My third hand holding this up is the strap so let's get in there.

Bingo, that's fine. So there you have it. Nothing wrong with my string, it's just yeah. Touchy switch.

Check out the sludge on my tip. Unbelievable. So there you have it after six years, the thing that failed is probably the thing you expected to fail. which is the seal in like a box, just like a weather seal up on top.

Of course, it's stunning. Gonna degrade and eventually wear out. It's just a given. I Don't even know why they have those isolated switches up on the roof when we've already got an isolator switch down here.

I Don't see the purpose of that, but it just goes to show how having another thing in the chain can fail. So yet, let us know if you've had a DC isolator fail and in if you've got one install up in your roof. I Don't know it. Maybe it's requirement law here in Australia to have it? I'm not really sure.

but anyway, yep, but failed panels are still good and we're Sonny-boy inverters still fantastic. the winds picking up again and I think once we get that isolator switch up there, replace or maybe even bypassed if we don't need it, then it's fine. and this thing wouldn't have failed if we didn't have that weatherproof box up there with the isolator switch. So the conduit was bound to last a lot longer than that switch in case and rubber seal in there and just another water ingress path and it just corroded everything and it's just buggered it up.

So anyway, yeah, so it's simple stuff like that that's failed. not the electronics, not the panel's, because I've got top-quality LG panels up there. and because I paid a lot more for those panels and they've lasted then you know, the six plus years already. Hopefully I'll get more than a decade out of this system anyway.
Hope you liked it. Catch you next time.

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23 thoughts on “Eevblog #1217 – my home solar power system failed!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Trojan Proxy says:

    Isolator switches on the roof are now the number one cause of solar panel fires. Get rid of them. You alreasy have one next to the inverter.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wat een klojo Onzin says:

    Simple solution, put a metal plate over it, like a roof.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mark hull says:

    I had a system installed in 2010, made sure they placed inverter and swithes inside garage, out of the weather. Never have had any problems. System has paid for itself after 8 years, and everything is just gravy. (las vegas)

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul says:

    I have never installed an electrical isolator up on the the roof exposed to the laments That's a recipe for disaster.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 2009glories says:

    How long to get system installed. I have one estimate says it will take 3 to 6 months to install the systenm. Is this reasonable?

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Yatukih001 says:

    Its why I never invest in anything solar power or wind power related. I know its just sun rays and wind, and therefore no way to create purely sustainable energy. So the question is – what does create sustainable energy then? If not solar wind, if not wind power, then what? The answer are FUELS! Of course! It all makes perfect sense. Solar energy projects fail because their model is a failure based on a failed understanding of how sustainability works. For any vehicle to have a sustainable future, there has to be fuel. That means gasoline, oil, electricity, etc. That is what you need to run hings. If you want to power up your house, you require electricity to do it for you. And that electricity must come from a water based source.Greetings from Iceland!

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tim Gooding says:

    Update to this. My mother had solar installed over 12 months ago and a metal solar plate was installed over the roof isolator. Looking around it seems standard now.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Scott says:

    There are a lot of these DC switches on the market Dave, most are no bloody good. After much trial and tribulation I have bought Blue Sea Marine circuit breakers, these are not cheap. Near $100 for a rating of 100A at 48V. They are made in the US or Mexico and they seem to be reliable and actually trip at their rated current. The CHINESE made types are all crap in my experience.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rishikesh S says:

    you have lot of wind , why don't u use wind energy xd

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rusty Gold says:

    . Thanks for sharing . Our Sun impact under a weak ozone deteriorates all the telecom network too

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars aldo b says:

    and what about one more year later?

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars INHALETIME TIMEINHALE says:

    I CANT HEAR YOU

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kuhrd says:

    It always surprises me how thin the electrical boxes are in other countries. In the US most sealed boxes you can buy for outdoor use are more than twice as thick of UV resistant plastic with many even being fiberglass reinforced. Sometimes you can buy cheaper ones that are not consumer grade but it's always best to buy commercial or industrial grade if you are ever going to install any electrical equipment. Sure they cost more but a solar installation should easily last over 50-75 years without needing to be replaced if installed correctly and none of the panels are physically damaged.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HayBayle says:

    Any updates on this?

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars William Yohman says:

    Interesting. Are you suggesting the weak link failed?

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars johnf9596 says:

    Bypass the switch! Solar is a come on

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars FuzzyLogicxxx says:

    Sue that isolator company for doing a bad job. That company should have tested the isolator weather resistance properly, clearly they didn't.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars orion smith says:

    No weep wholes, doomed to fail without.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Magnus Brynhagen says:

    I'm no expert in solar panels but, they produce electricity instantly when light hits them and the are no way to turn that process off. If You need to service or replace one panel, its a good thing if You could break connection to the other panels, else I guess You have to cover them all some how to block the light or do the work at night to avoid electrocution. For that reason, the individual service breakers is good/needed.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HaydenHattrick says:

    The reason I know about for having an Isolation switch on the roof is apparently to help fire fighters disable the system before they fight a fire.
    They are instructed to not go on the roof or even fight a fire if the solar system is still active throughout the call.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars bkubicek says:

    There was a discussion in Germany a few years ago, where one opinion was that these emergency switches might cause more fire hazard then they could do good in case of fire shutdown.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Far Out says:

    How much would it have cost for an elderly couple or people whom do not have the ability to repair it themselves, to have this box repaired?

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars EEVblog says:

    I kinda predicted this back in a previous video when I noted the wear on the box

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