Over a decade spent categorising videos into Playlists, and all for nothing?
Rant on why Playlists don't work and how it's such a neglected Youtube feature, and a way to improve it.
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Hi, I'm going to have a rant about Youtube playlist because as a content creator, it is one of the most frustrating features or lack of or underutilized features in all of Youtube. And it just, ah, it just annoys me so much that Youtube are not taking playlists seriously. And let me show you why. I've been creating videos on Youtube for almost 13 years now.

I've been a full-time Youtube content creator for almost 11 years now and they have not fixed this and it's so frustrating. Let's uh, look right, here's my main Ev blog channel. Okay, sure. Okay, they've got this tab up the top.

It's called Playlist Now because I'm a very eclectic, uh channel. I've built up my audience based on a huge variety of different content. Now, this may not apply to all youtubers. some Youtubers just make the same con style of content over and over and over again, and they have absolutely no use for playlists And that's fine.

But for content creators like me that do create like dozens, literally dozens of different styles of content. and here's all of my playlists. Okay, you can actually go and see them. Okay, and I've got that.

like check them out, right? These are all the different playlists and I've spent the last. I don't know. when did playlist start? Anyway, I've spent the last like decade or more like 12 or 13 years carefully put in every one of my like 1800 different videos or however many I have into all these different playlists. But hardly anyone uses or even knows about play.

that playlist actually exist. And let me actually show you how many people how many views I actually get from a playlist and then we'll go into why this is not the case. Okay, here's my channel analytics here for my main channel here. So I've got uh, what is it? 28 million total impressions? Um, in the last 28 days, that's impressions.

That means it's been like displayed, uh to people either on like the search results or the pages or whatever. But my actual views there? They are there. One and a half million views there. Okay and watch time 216 000 hours, right? Great and look most of my content.

687 000 views comes from the browse features. so that's from the home page subscription. like and subscribe. You know.

Give it a thumbs up. do the bell notification, all that sort of stuff. We tell you that for a reason and I'll go into a another reason why that's not enough these days. Anyway, suggested videos is my second most, uh, popular way.

25 or most of my views come from Youtube actually suggesting my content. So this is the out the algorithm, uh, trademark and deciding whether or not it's going to bless me with some you know, to feature my video in search results or suggested videos or something like that. And then there's uh, people searching is the third most. 10 of my views come from that and then external, uh, stuff like my web page and stuff like that 5.5 percent of views or if my video is embedded on some other web page.
but I believe most of that comes from my, uh, website evblog.com link down below. And then it's another five percent from channel pages from Youtube. even mine or other channel pages direct or unknown not knowing other Youtube features. um, traffic wonder that doesn't fall into any other categories.

And then notification views. Uh, from notifications and emails sent to subscribers. So only 1.4 of my views apparently come from people clicking the emails uh, that you know supposedly are sent to people like notifications or to your phone or whatever. But most my people actually view most of my viewers actually view on desktop by the way.

um, the majority. not these newfangled shoe phone things. Anyway, only 1.4 of my traffic comes from subscribers, so it's almost as if Youtube aren't sending out notifications. Oh, we're all shocked.

No Youtube is shocked. No. Anyway, um, yeah, it's 1.4 Are you kidding me? I know that a huge percentage of my Uh audience are subscribed to 850 000 subscribers and only 1.4 come from there. Anyway, these are all mini rants in their own right.

And here it is. Finally we get down to playlist: 1.3 of my views. Or if actually this is playlist, this is like, uh, this could be mine or other people's playlists. Um, but this is my playlist page which I showed you before with all the you know, the playlist tab or whatever.

half a percent. So a combined total of like under two percent. Under two percent of my views come from playlists. And why is this a problem? Well, let me show you.

let's use another browser. logged out. Don't have a Youtube account and this is what a non-subscriber or even subscribers would see. Uh, for my videos here.

Here's one of my recent, uh, debunking, uh. videos, right? And where is the playlist? This video is included in the debunking. Let me show you here. It is here.

Here it is. Scroll down here. This is inside my video. It's in the Debunking playlist.

Here's all my playlists that I have. Every single time I upload a video, I go to the effort to put it in a playlist. Yet Youtube just ignores it and pisses it away. Uh, the playlist feature.

Nobody ever sees it. Because if you go back to here, Where? where is the playlist when you're watching one of my videos, or one of whoever you follow, Any content creator is the same. It's not just me, right. where look it? It puts the tags down here.

Electronics Creators which is a tag several Us electronics Youtube has actually put in so you can have a click on that and Indiegogo on marketing. So it puts in the hashtags and stuff. But where is the playlist now? I'm sure. I'm not sure how many years ago leave it in the comments down below.

if you know, and when they change this, I think the playlist used to show up here, right? It used to show up here, but now, of course. look, they've got an ad up there. Which is fine, right? This is one you know, and part of the way that I, um, earn some revenue is like the ads popped up. Here's an ad you know, quite a relevant ad for uh, Salee.com the sale logic analyzer for example.
But like there is nothing else here. There's other recommended videos, of course, some of which are my own. Like here, it is like other Eev blog videos. Great.

Okay, thank you. There's a great Scott video. I have no idea who Nile Blue is. It looks like, um, some sort of chemistry or something.

Is it? I don't know. Um, and yeah. great. Okay, and here's my second channel as well, right? So they put up good recommendations.

But where is the playlist? If you like this content, this debunking video that I've done, Where is the playlist? Why? Why? Why Why can't they have it right next to the description? Look at all this wasted white space down here. Look, it's all gone. Why can't they have a link that just says this is part of you know, the playlist debunking And then you click on that and you get all of my debunking videos. Why can't they do that? Why? Youtubers have been screaming for this for, you know, ever since time.

Immortal, I think. And it's just. it's just not there. How hard would it be to put it there? This is why nobody ever sees playlists because hardly anyone goes over to like the actual uh, Youtube channel itself and clicks on this, uh, playlist thing here.

Hardly anyone. And this is why the metrics are so piss-poor that only you know less than two percent of my views come from playlists come on right? And to a content creator like me who creates dozens of different type of content, this is so incredibly annoying. People subscribe for different reasons. They like different content.

Not all my very small percentage of people watch every single one of my videos. They've got their own particular taste and I'm like that as well. When I watch other youtubers, I might have a certain style of video that they like, which you know, I don't care for their other content and that's fine and dandy. So let's say, for example, you really liked my Dc fundamentals.

uh, tutorial video. Okay, if you click here here, it is. It does. actually.

uh, show up here. The playlist actually shows up because we're with inside a list. You can see it up here in the url. So if you go through the playlist, you actually get this feature here.

But when you actually stumble across one of my videos, or even if you're a subscriber and You go in and you play one of my videos, you have no idea it's part of a playlist? None whatsoever. You have to go through the playlist before you can see the playlist. Do you see the problem? So why can't Youtube not only on the video page actually put out, not through here, but actually put up just a text link there. a little link that says this is part of a playlist uh, you know, Dc Fundamentals or whatever and click on it and it takes you to this page which then has all of the stuff here.
I can understand they don't want to clutter the sidebar with playlists and that's fine. But how hard is it to put a little link down here somewhere? And for channels like mine that produce a whole range of different content? I'm always asking myself ever since day one, Should I have multiple channels for everything? Because should I have like, just a Eev blog? tutorials channel? Should I just have an Eev blog debunking channel? Should I just have an Eev blog? Repairs channel? Uh, you know, a teardown channel? A mailbag channel? All that sort of stuff. And as it uh, turns out, I've actually only got three. I've got my Ev Discover channel.

Lots of good video here. Like you know, actual some original uh, proof I did that we landed on the moon. For example, 747. Um.

see I visited a 747 simulator and lots of Nasa staff and other really cool things. Um, you know, on my Eevee Discover channel. And then there's of course my Evlog 2 channel which just has a real random eclectic mix of stuff. And I've actually, uh, polled my audience several times before whether or not I should actually create more channels and separate the content out into the different channels.

And the vast majority of people said no, I'm happy with the three channels you've got. Now, please don't make any more and put everything in playlist. Well, I've been putting everything in playlist for like the last 13 years or something and I'm not seeing any benefit from this whatsoever. It's almost that like the playlist almost not might not exist.

Those who seek it out and like want to view playlists, they might actually see on my channel that there's a playlist tab. They might know about it and go in there and seek it out. But basically, if you stumble across one of my videos like like this, you are not going to see. There's no indication at all of playlists on here.

So why Youtube? Why can't you like add value? All most creators I know put stuff into playlist yet it's hidden away. When you stumble across a channel, you want to know that this uh, creator makes different types of like a particular style of content so make it really obvious and it'd be really fantastic. Why can't you have a subscribe to playlist button like we're inside the playlist Here I've gone to the effort to seek out the playlist. Why can't I subscribe to a playlist? Because like, seriously, how hard is it to code that couple of dozen lines of code? Maybe I don't know, but like, how hard would that be to allow people to subscribe to a playlist? So that on a very wide-ranging eclectic channel like mine, people can subscribe to only the content that they want.

They only like, you know, five different types of my videos and just you know, don't like everything else so they don't They shouldn't get alerted to that sort of stuff. Why Why can't we have a subscribe to playlist button and make playlists prominent on this page? Is it Is it too much to ask? Seriously. Anyway, I rant over. let me know your thoughts and comments down below.
Is this a good idea? Do you like should playlist be more visible Should you be able to subscribe Uh, to playlist? Will this help you out? As a viewer of an electric ecliptic channel like mine that has a ride wide ranging style of content, the creators that I watch I only would watch you know often certain types of their content. so it'd be great for me to just be able to subscribe to the ones I want. So then uh, you'd I? You probably don't have to send out as many emails, your server, your Youtube server doesn't go because it's got to send out. You know, 20 billion emails or whatever.

Potentially less because it only has to send out the alerts and notifications for the particular type of content that people watch on a channel. And sure, there's channels out there that have absolutely no use for playlists and everyone subscribes to watch every single video. And that's fine. But come on, all of us creators.

Here's my dashboard, right? For the last 13 years, I've been sticking things in playlists here. They all are right. Video Accounts: 74 videos in my 74 repair videos I've put in there 93 in blab, uh, videos? Can I? and can I even sort by that? No, I don't think I can. Um, yeah, and this is not.

I've got multiple pages of these, right? 148 videos, 12 videos, 19 videos, 158 videos For product reviews and and tear downs, I've been carefully categorizing every time I upload. Creators have gone to this effort and Youtube just don't care. They just the the playlist feature almost might not exist for I'm going to all this effort, right? All that stuff's there for a lousy. like.

less than two percent of my views come from playlist. Come on. If you made it more prominent, I guarantee that would go up by at least an order of magnitude. Anyway, I had to get that out of my system.

Let me know what you think down below and as always, give it a big thumbs up and install the um, dislike counter plug-in which you can get for your browser so you can still see the dislikes. So anyway, also leave it in the comments down below. Do you seek out and use playlists Because it's obvious only a very small percentage of people actually do this? Would you want to see it? Is it obvious that I have a playlist and all of my content is categorized in there? Would this be a useful feature to you? Let us know down below on hassle, Youtube, on the Twitters and everything Teamyoutube. Catch you next time.


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27 thoughts on “Eevblab 95 – why are youtube playlists so bad?”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Daniel Morin says:

    I can see Playlists if I go to the channel. I go through the subscriptions and look for the dot on the channel which means new content.
    It would be cool if the right side would show videos in the channel and option to show content in the Playlist.
    But a video can be in more than one Playlist so which do you show?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Infernal Craftsman says:

    I agree 100%. It turns a channel into more of a network with varying channels under it's umbrella. I do all kinds of different stuff and it would really work well for what I do. But I'm just a little guy putting my stuff up hoping it's useful to someone else.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andy Cristea says:

    How about subscription folders? I'd like to organize my subscriptions somehow… EE creators videos, one folder; cooking videos, funny videos, car videos, artist's videos, vintage computing etc… each in it's own subscription folder. How's that for a new feature? ๐Ÿ˜€

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ReticentNova says:

    I always go to the playlists section when I find a new channel I'm interested in. I'm usually looking for long term projects with multiple parts. Wish YT used this more. Why can't Odysee take this as a chance to beat YT to a feature for once?

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kc0eks says:

    You can't move devices easily with a playlist, of casting and the cast gets broken you loose the whole playlist. Can't add shorts to casted playlist so don't watch. Adding videos to playlists is also a lot harder now

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars lasersbee says:

    Instead of one click that you point to…. I click on your Channel Name just over the Description and then click on Playlists. Yeah it would save me a click. You could easily put a link in the description that goes to the Playlist.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cezary Akakios says:

    There are so many of these things that Youtube completely neglects. Most videos have automatic captions, which can be opened and viewed in a separate panel. That's good! But the option to do so is hidden in the three-dot menu, which most people will never click on. And most frustratingly, you can't search the captions! (You can use browser ctrl-F but that only works on the part that's displayed, not the whole text.) Google was founded as a company to make information available, and it's missing a basic text search! The data already exists. You can download captions and subs as a text file using external tools, and manually search, so why can't there just be a search box?

    What if you could search the captions for a whole channel at once? What if a channel has 1000 videos and there's a keyword somewhere in one of them I'm trying to research? I have to assume that Youtube somehow uses this information in some way when I do a search on the channel page, but again that's another function that has poor discoverability as you have to click on the channel page link and then know that the magnifying glass icon thing is a channel-search. We know for certain that Youtube has his ability because if you search on Google for a phrase you will often be shown a video result that uses the captions to jump to a specific time code. So why is this capability not available on Youtube proper?! It drives me crazy the number of stupid things like this.

    Someone already mentioned this, but when watching a playlist you can't even set the order to reverse. That's criminally stupid, because often the person that made the playlist put them in the wrong order (e.g. reverse chronological) and you want to watch them in the opposite order. That is trivial to implement (and there are browser extensions to do it, for people smart enough to find them) and it seems unthinkable that this basic functionality does not exist on the world's premiere video site.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mount Vernon says:

    I very rarely use playlists, and when I do as soon as the video loads I edit the URL and remove the list info then force a reload. If I don't, YouTube has decided that I want to auto-run every video in the list, even though I have AutoRun turned off. If the only link to a video opens it in a playlist I strip the list info and force it to play that single video without having it run into whatever comes after it. I find that aspect of the way they implement playlists extremely irritating.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars xjet says:

    I finally started an Odysee channel ๐Ÿ™‚ YouTube made me do it by deleting a video that promoted freedom of choice and tolerance for other people's opinions. YT doesn't believe in that… it's YouTube's way or the highway apparently ๐Ÿ™

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Null Null says:

    I'd love for them to do something along these lines, but I'd bet there's a financial motive in them having control over the next video in the auto-play queue. Same with the dislike count making people close out of poorly rated videos!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars IanScottJohnston says:

    Never really started creating or viewing playlists until the other day after many years on YT.
    I dont think YT likes having playlists prominently displayed for reasons of their advertising campaigns. It hurts them probably. If somebody is viewing an old video from a playlist then they are not watching somebody else's NEW video.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DataStorm says:

    As a watcher, i'm not really interested in older videos, I've seen them already, i'm subscribed, and ofc I skip, but most of what I view is from subscriptions page.
    Playlists are … especially with a long-content creater like EEVblog not really interesting, for it forms a huge timesink. I do see every now and then various playlists, but those come up on the main page, not on suggestions next to a video, and those are often short video type, music videos etc.
    I'm aware of playlists, and I do sometimes use them, but those are mostly on teaching channels where they teach a subject and made a playlist with it. The big annoyance is saving the link and not being able to continue from that link every time you go there, for that's set to a fixed video, not at your "Here I was, I want to continue from there" point. I do agree there can be PLENTY of improvements on YT, its like a forgotten stepchild that never gets upgraded.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matty England says:

    Not trying to be an ass kisser, but your playlists are some of the best organised I've seen. Most people's are crap, hence why a lot of people don't bother checking them a lot of the time.
    It wasn't until I was looking for something about an oscillascope that I realised how comprehensive they were.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars f tt says:

    EXACTLY ! yt playlist sucks, you can't find them, you cant see if you have watched videos (yeah it does't work), you can't just click playlist and start where you finished you can't uncheck video as watched/unwatched, yt sucks.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DaS says:

    If you look from the perspective that YouTube just wants to serve a lots of ads, instead of showing the viewer what it wants (quality video's vs hidden downvotes; force subscriptions of channels vs not showing playlists ), a lot of decisions are making sense.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TrendyTim says:

    The playlist list is also an accordion, so it can be collapsed, so it should be above the suggested video list and people can expand it if they want (or by default expand it, though i'm sure people will start abusing them if that was an option).

    I guess they figure playlisting means people will stick stay in that garden for a longer and not visit a wider selection which may mean the algorithm will have a harder time fining other channels to recommend or some bullshit like that.

    Youtube are just very hostile to having a good user/creator experience (given how awful Google video was back when google was competing with Youtube, im not surprised they obfuscate stuff so you need to search to find stuff, or follow the algorithm, one day it will be their downfall.)

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars limtbk says:

    I think, the problem is that same video could be in many playlists (relation as 1 to *). And YouTube has no algorythm to choose one from many. So, you can put playlist link into description as one of solution/workaround.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wouter Weggelaar says:

    I remember being able to set the start and stop times on playlist video's. That was an amazing feature I wish would still be there! I use playlists a lot but they have definitely been neglected by YouTube!

    Also, playlists on the mobile app are HORRIBLE. my main method of watching is on a PC, so it is less of a problem, but when I find myself in the app and I want to add a video to a playlist, it automatically dumps it in the most recently used one. switching the playlist does not always work so you end up with a video in the wrong list!

    You used to be able to subscribe to playlists, but that got removed around the same time as the subscription notifications started breaking…I am fairly sure YouTube does not like playlists because someone could be watching videos for days without suggested content. I use a browser plugin to hide all algorithmic content, so I do not care much about the recommendations.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars linussolo says:

    There used to be a series playlist feature on youtube which added a link to a playlist by the video title. But I think they removed it because not enough people used it or something.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars chrstphrr says:

    As mainly a viewer of content, I heavily use playlists to organized watched videos into groups, for years and years. The playlist feature list is very abbreviated. There's no simple "search" for me to search through the dozens of playlists I've made over the years to help me to zero in on the list I want… If I want to add a video to a playlist I last looked at 2 years ago, I have to scroll through and find it myself. Easy for 2-3 playlists… but I probably have just as many as Davey boy here! There's no way to merge, prune, purge, or easily edit entries in the playlists. It's no wonder they are underused given how neglected the feature set is.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Benjamin Willard says:

    Two major things that always bugs me when i'm managing and watching videos through playlists.

    1: Whenever i put a video in a spot i put, it scrolls back to the 100 limit, Every! Single! Time!

    2: Automatically playing the next video when i'm done with the last.

    But those are peanuts compared to even more problems with playlists.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars fredy gump says:

    Dave, regarding the notifications, I get "notified" through my subscriptions list on my home page! And I don't actually use the gmail account that youtube is connected to, so email notifications don't reach me. Even if I did use that account, there is no reality in which I want my inbox over-run with new video notifications! I suspect others feel the same? I don't know who that feature is for, but I don't understand it.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars OzRetrocomp says:

    Yes! Thank you for pointing out that playlists exists, but they're poorly implemented. I don't think many viewers are aware the YT playlists are even a thing. These days I make playlists mainly to organise content into categories for my own reference.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Infrared73 says:

    Playlists are so minimally implemented. I think YT at best considers them for users vs channels for their functionality. Playlists need sorting options though.

    I wish I could subscribe to channel playlists as a subset of a channels content. I can save your playlist to my library, but that is a different set of functionality. It could be treated as a filter for a channels content.

    Notifications though are fundamentally flawed. Nothing like having to go through every device to check notifications.

    I wonder how easy it would be to have an external program to link playlists to videos in the description?

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vbe says:

    Good video! Indeed, it is very difficult to categorize all this stuff and see it all simply going into oblivion. I think that playlists were simply left behind on an era where people actually visited a channel's page. Nowadays search, suggestions and other promotion ways see much more favour from Youtube since it probably brings better revenue stream if they promote variety. Search wins over browsing.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DeDeNoM says:

    Why Are Youtube Playlists So BAD? Because Youtube does not want you to use them. It is that simple. BTW you can save playlist, just do not get notified in any way, if a video is added to the playlist. So subscribing to a playlist is already halfway implemented.
    Also, playlist, especially long ones, are extremely buggy.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Damir Sudarevic says:

    My guess is that any new subscriber would use playlists to browse the existing content โ€” I do. But then I am within that 0.5%. Also how would one verify those stats? Worked for a web company for a while โ€”do not put too much faith in click tracking.

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