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21 thoughts on “Eevblab #62 – pcb wars – the rise of kicad”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RagnarEE says:

    Personally i hope the open source solutions always should be free, and personal.
    I installed Altium Circuit Maker, very happy about this powerful tools for hobbyists and students, until i came to Log-On-To-Use…. 😡Uninstalled the Shit and installed KiCad 7!
    Very happy about the limitations compared to Circuit Maker, but now i can enjoy my hobby and work and experiment with KiCad 7 where ever and when ever i want! And, i can keep my work private, just in case…👍
    So why free and community based? Surviving and thriving on the community themselves, commercials, and donations from both private hobbyists and commercial businesses.

    This is the big bonus as i see it. The industry get highly skilled, trained and dedicated hobbyists as potential employees, groomed and educated for free!!
    The leap from open source free software, to commercial professional tools, is marginal.
    And i can not understand why the big software company's do not see this value….?
    PS! And most of the genius will obviously not come from the rich population in the world. If we don't count with the 10-20% of the worlds population that sadly not ever can afford even a cellphone or internet, the next 60-70% cant afford the luxury of subscriptions with monthly fees like NetFlix and the like, that the last 10-20% of us can. Is it not a good idea that these 60-80% of the worlds population can enjoy some free tickets into the modern world of technology? And now and then, some of these will turn out to be a genius that actually got the chance to evolve, will tick the world and the rest of us, a small leap forward.
    When MS-Office came with the 365 release, paying a monthly fee of 10 USD, no thanx!! I still use Office 2007 which i got with a new PC some time back. When it gets obsolete, then its OpenOffice for me!!
    Its simply a principal to use my consumer power to show that enough is enough. The rich is rich enough now! They should not be allowed to buy more stuff they can get even more money out of, and rob it from us that cant afford to keep up. And i really hope they never will get their dirty hands on neither KiCad or any other free products.
    If i cant get a product for free, that we more or less need in our modern lives, then at least i demand to buy it and own it to use it as i wish.
    The monthly fees can be kept on things that we actually don't need, like NetFlix….

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars account old says:

    KiCAD is worth the recurring license money. Thankfully it's optional

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Billy Hart says:

    If KiCad gets the ability to do cable drawings then it's basically a done deal.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rixtronix LAB says:

    Keep it up, nice video, thanks for sharing it 🙂

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MrTridac says:

    Since CERN got into KiCAD development it's over for everything else because schools and universities will now prefer it over commercial products.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MPaulHolmes says:

    I have found Kicad to be incredibly frustrating and very unnecessarily ugly in how it does several things, coming from designspark.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sagar says:

    KiCAD is awesome!! Having it open source always will nurture more innovation globally, without any financial burden and other resource constraints to young innovators, students, hobbyists and early stage start-ups etc.,

    With more plugins and other features updates + pyscript console makes it great tool.

    Huge thanks to CERN 🎉

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gregg Jaskiewicz says:

    eagle is rubbish 😐 Super difficult to use.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MD says:

    KiCad is better than Eagle.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Lowe says:

    Autodesk being the pricks they are will buy it and trash it.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Terry Haas says:

    I just started a new job and they are using Eagle Professional. I told my boss that KiCad seems to have better and more comprehensive libraries and is free. The only benefit of using Eagle is that it comes with Fusion 360.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Approvision says:

    Has anyone tried to move components in KiCad after making connections in schematics, does connections follow? When I did the connections were left orphan.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Lowe says:

    Eagle great > Autodesk buy and apply cloud bullshit > Kicad
    Don't be a tight ass and send Kicad a few bucks. What goes around comes around.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hal Asimov says:

    People like to OWN stuff Klaus we don't want to rent "happiness" from technocratic overlords just to make a PCB

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Regal_7 says:

    I switched to KiCad from Eagle in mid 2020. I was using Eagle before because that's what we were introduced to at Uni. Obviously the Uni had some sort of deal with Autodesk and so they pushed that garbage on us. Don't get me wrong, Eagle may or may not be an excellent PCB design software. It's just that I will never find out, it's too god damn expensive and is basically ripping me off. I heard of KiCad from a friend still at Uni (I had just finished Uni by then) late 2019, but was too hesistant to switch until mid 2020. Best decision of my life. I've learnt so much about circuit and PCB design since then because I was free to fail over and over again with KiCad.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pimdakaas says:

    Let's hope it will never be picket up commercially. Coming from Eagle which is, in my opinion, needlessly overcomplicated, KiCad is a breath of fresh air! The thought of it being commercialized, especially if it would become a subscription model, turns my stomach. As others have pointed out, using it for hobby purposes only a few times a year would make it no longer an option. Open source is a great way to get great software that is not limited by what a brand thinks it will release to the public en charging extra for it. Look at Fusion 360: great program but as soon as the it gained some traction, they limit the functions of the free version and the only way to get those back is to get a subscription. Again, not an option for hobbyists. I don't mind paying for software but the subscription model is a downright killer for us hobbyists!

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MiniLab says:

    Without EEVblog's Altium experience, one lacks a useful point of reference. That being said, Kicad v Altium has a Linux v Doze feel….none of the World's top supercomputers run Doze because it is way to slow, the code is opaque (binary blob), and it is too unreliable….but if you had suggested, in October 2001, that Doze was on the way out following the release of Doze XP, you would have been considered a lunatic. So….End-users may be slow to adapt, but nerds are quick to adapt. Kicad may yet be King.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Excel Moves says:

    Can you SHOW me how to start off with the ground plane first, on the pcb? ALL on one side of the pcb! No one can make a video and show me how to do this. Is it that hard to do? The circuit has 50 components.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars lIlIl llIIIllI says:

    What are the advantages of KiCad over EasyEDA, again? Because while yes, I do appreciate the better-looking (?) rendering of the schematics, what are the real selling points? EasyEDA has LCSC's catalog and works right in the browser. What does KiCad, a 1.2 gig download, have to offer in return?

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars OtherDalfite says:

    I just recently used kiCad to develop a protype board for a project I'm working on. AWESOME software. So many good libraries

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars EEVblog says:

    I had another thought. This "commercialisation" could come about in a different way with good community intentions to fund future development. i.e. some form of "Association" or "Foundation" might form that might try to control and fund full time development and support staff.

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