I do believe I must be live. I've gotta be. It's telling me. let me double check and check Check check.

Haha Yep I am live. I am live. Don't expect anyone join me but I'm live Here we go. I'll just tweet that and oh geez there's a lot of people hi hi hi hi let me let me pop out the chat hang on.

As usual I gotta dick around. Top Chat Live Chat Pop out Chat all right. One second, add video source be with you in a second. Video Devices Screen Capture Monitor window.

I've got to set this up manually each time. Calculator Night Mazda said detected it Facebook Chrome Landing Live Chrome Nope that's not it. I'll get it. Should have got here earlier.

Me: that is not you guys Live Chat There it is. Ta-da I'm a genius. Look at this. There we go.

Good to go. All right, we're good to go. Hello everyone Oklahoma, Switzerland What film is this? Hi Dave Did they get the units right? Let's say if they got the units right, how's my audio? I'm pretty sure my audio is good, but uh, give me a thumbs up and can you hear the system audio? I just switched it on Now we also call this maneuver. that's as soon as we deploy those using a new microphone today.

Uh, no longer have a Cd offset which is always dangerous and uh, should I leave the background audio on? Let me know if you want me to leave the background audio on or not because it was pretty boring before. They just had like um, I'm looking at the bloody microphone. What? What's in store for staring at the microphone? Because I got my microphone right in front. Hold here for uh, now instead of here.

Normally I have it like here or boom coming in and now it's there and it's distracting me. Activity: Please call that up when it's ready. Background audio on someone. Leave on, Leave on half.

Is it a good level? The background? yeah. Background audio is good. Thank you. I didn't think anyone had joined me.

I didn't think anyone would bother showing up. I thought you'd all be watching either the feed yourself or you'd be watching one of the space Youtubers doing what's in store for them as we approach landing. I mean, I'd probably be watching one of the space youtubers. Yes, um.

live feed yourself when it. Oh, you're watching Tim Dodd the everyday astronaut cool tells us yeah soon after that. Um, it won't be very long before we'll be able. and I don't even think he has like a background in engineering or space or anything like that.

I think he's like a photographer. He started out as a professional. Thousands and thousands, I think hundreds of thousands of lines of code there. There is, uh, really, you want me to lose the chat box devices? I like having the chat box there.

one critical wire short, or one key thing. are we going to see it land on camera? I believe. Well it's got extra landing cameras. This time it's got live landing cameras.

I don't know if it stores it and sends it later or whether or not it streams it live each other. but I I think like there is extra landing cameras over the opportunity last time too. So yeah it's um, we've had many failures. Yeah, I'm a more handsome nerd.

Thank you. Um uh yeah. so we should have failed. We should get it.

I think we should get a better queue even though we've had a chance to get more stuff. string of success more better. In the United States it's still an A A A Still a bit of a gamble. A gamble that we've we delay 20 minutes.

It's um, seven minutes. The uh, the seven Minutes of Terror is still seven minutes. Depends it changes, depends on the orbit are allowed. We will pick ourselves up live a 11 minute delay.

Okay, Congress and Nasa allow. We will try again. Yeah, as we always, so it's already close to land. I mean it's already and what has it already hit the atmosphere? If it's 20 minutes, it could be 20 minutes of Terror this time.

Is it? Well, they still call them at Seven Minutes of Terror. One of the key stressful elements for all of us is parachute inflation. Separating from the cruise stage is a pretty major event. Lots of devices, live streaming Youtube is a bit how you doing certainly.

um, separation. Uh. getting the descent engine started. There's no less than than us, uh, at least camera and a microphone.

Obviously you have to work one eight to control during entry. another eight. Well, that would be very cagey about public releasing a lot of stuff and it all has to work. Really Yeah, they haven't.

We haven't done this before with this vehicle. ever. This is this first thing. Thank you very much Brad W.

for the 10 Canadian Buckaroos. We can't do it. Uh, we don't have test pilots to try and I'd love to see more scam starter debunking videos like I always debate like people send me them all the time. Please send me the links if you see something.

um, but some of them I just go, oh look, it's not. You know, it's raised one dollar on triple start or indiegogo or something. It's never again. It's not getting any traction.

It's clearly just ridiculous. It's not even worth the oxygen, you know. And I am just so proud of this. But if anything's like raised significant money one the other day, it's a scam battery or whatever they're They're just, uh, repurposing a battery as a super capacitor and um, and he's got evidence of this, but not evidence that I can share publicly.

I've just, yeah. okay, it's a big scam, but it's like it hasn't made the headlines. It's like a nothing burger. It'll just die.

Um, you know. So what was that? Four minutes we have now enabled the Rover Pyrobus. Everyone's just going cam. one cam, two in the.

that's the pyrotechnic. I'm just looking at the comments here and powering off the cruise stage devices. and these are the these are the things in the cruise stage that will that we no longer need with the pirate ticket system. so you can hear the background audio.

we can explode the devices. The vehicle is preparing for the upcoming cruise stage duration in about three minutes. 15 seconds, Three minutes by powering off all the devices on the cruise stage in order that the cruise stays. Separation in three minutes is jettisoned.

Yeah, this is a this is a audio. It's good. Excellent. I'll just leave it.

Why the frowny face stays first. Pyros to event the Hrs liquid and gas. Ah, this has been the coolant because we kept their vehicle from getting too hot in the way of Mars. We have to vent it into space.

I'll make the chat smaller and so this is one of the first uh major events that take place as part of entry Descent landing uh is complete. We will see the next anchor and approximately completing it. Something just completed. Okay, he gave a little currently 12 and a half minutes interface.

We are coming upon separation in two minutes and 20 seconds. Two minutes cruise stage separation. What's happening now Rob Okay, we'll just we're just waiting The the rover is completely in charge. It's doing all the things we've taught it how to do.

It's all built into the software. We've tested it over and over and over again. This team has spent 24 hours a day, seven days a week testing this thing for years. And and and so this is.

Uh, this is really the culmination of all that work. So this could have the live feed up. Like the simulation stage away. There's a whole simulation away.

Um, it it the entry system. The rover inside with the rover is still in charge. It's going to get ready to take the vehicle, turn it to the right orientation, and aim it to Mars. And and uh, and prepare for entering the atmosphere because this sucker's not going into orbit.

Where's the uh? This won't be long. Um, be prepared for this event. Taking about a minute and a half from mistake to separation about 11 minutes. 20 seconds from entry interface.

This whole year, it's about 10 minutes from previously separation until it entered. The top down is the cruise stage. They're over the heat shield. Telecom is confirming that the spacecraft has switched to broadcasting tones.

These switches directly from perseverance, but have very limited information content. We will receive real-time information until about Uh. nine. ten minutes from now.

Once the margin constant Orbiter starts relaying information. Oh yeah, the orbit is going to relay it. We are under a minute from cruise stage separation. This thing doesn't go into orbit.

This thing just slams in at like 10 miles per second. It's getting exciting. Nuts. I have to admit, I am quite anxious, but very hopeful this is either landing or bust.

There's no delays. they're getting hot. It means that we signed. There's no more ones and zeros coming.

It's just the vehicle telling us it's still alive. Rise. That's handy. Alive or dead.

Schrodinger's Schrodinger's Rover. There was a thing on here like giving a slip from perseverance. Given the live data, like how fast it was going and stuff, I can't find it, I should have prepared better on this. Ah, there was a there was a thing with live data.

They're like telling you countdown, how many kilometers to go and stuff. Well, I think they're the yanks. I think they're still working in miles. So yeah, I don't know.

I have an indication that cruise stage separation has been confirmed by the spacecraft. It's been confirmed. The cruise stage is separated one minute. Press advances.

Landing software will wake up and begin the operations for entry. The formulation it will do is to fire warm-up pulses with the entry thrusters. These pulses ensure that the spacecraft gets the thrust that it wants. During entry interface, we're about nine minutes from entry interface.

Nine minutes from entry. Brilliant. Okay, so now the vehicle's on its own. I think Nasa is metric.

Well, they had. I sure they had the Imperial on their website and uh, so they did Eventually, uh uh. hitting the top of the atmosphere. we're not far away.

This is going to go very quickly from here on out. And yeah, this is the simulation feed. You can actually call that up and you can watch the simulation as it happens. And it's not just simulation, it has the live data I think, is it? whatever.

So it's all synchronized with all the actually that we could see a signal that the crew stayed. Do they have Mo? Is Mohawk dudes still there, the Perseverance engine capsule, and Earth. I mean the amount of publicity he got from that the first time around. Incredible.

The data stream indicating the crucifixion got called out by the President. We have confirmation that the vehicle has started warming up. those entry thrusters. Warming.

Our pulses have begun because it's been sitting in the vacuum of space for like nine months. How long did it take to get? Only took like nine months or something to get there. I can't believe how quick it's been trying to stop its spin from the cruise. Two revolutions per minute down to zero and then we'll turn to its desired orientation from.

Got to stop it? Spin: Okay, so yeah, you can see it rotated. The two balance masks that have kept it balanced during all of cruise this whole 88 miles see miles told you it enters the atmosphere 1950 Miles. See, I told you they were using Miles I told you I pointed in the right direction. The thrusters are warmed up and doing their job and now we've we've spun down from two rounds at home.

Uh, watching this. He's very excited. It's like five minutes before he has to go to school and then from here. Now I don't think he's watching my feed, He's watching the Nasa feature and it's going to control its orientation and attitude via rockets on the back of that points carrier lock.

sorry camera Dte from, uh, get the call. everything's on the line. It's for all the marbles. plate level one we are continuing to.

Oh yeah, they'd be using uh, Metric for internal but external public relations because it's mostly it's the U.s taxpayer. Um, uh, Greenback that they are. They don't understand earth telemetry via that path seven months, was it the spacecraft perseverance is currently transmitting heartbeat tones. These sounds indicate that is about to get real.

To report, there's no back outs. There's no backing. as expected. We're currently just over six minutes from entry interface.

so it's either gonna land or it's gonna plow right into it or it's gonna skip off. I I think it's on target. They would know if it's totally off tiger by now, so I'm I'm sure it's Yeah, it's either landing or it's going to burn up or plow into Auger in. It's going to buy the farm.

As soon as we get to the top of the atmosphere, we'll be very quickly, which is the energy I need 1.5 million people watching. Yeah, before Youtube's holding up, man, I've got to give it. it's going directly. Unbelievable.

A fairly steep angle of 15 degrees, it starts to slow down just under. Uh, about five and a half minutes from entry interface, we're still receiving heartbeat tones. I've got to say the masks suck. I've got to say it.

I've got to be the guy in the room that says after entry I really hate Perseverance will be no longer in view of our antennas here on Earth. Really like. For something of this importance, I hate not being able to see people's begin receiving television. From perseverance and excitement and smiles and stuff, I'm here in real time.

There are a few expected short outages, such as when we have a plasma backed out or when we enter the peak heating. Thank you. These outages caused by the plasma blackout, antenna switching, or dynamic events spacecraft events. We should have telemetry until about 90 seconds is when the signal from Perseverance isn't strong enough to make it through the superheated, super fast air flowing around the spacecraft.

Oh, she's wearing too much. the temperature drops. Anyway, let's talk about the mask. No, I think that all apparently about four and a half minutes from entry interviews.

Oh, death bombs here. Thank you. Used to report heartbeat tones indicating everything is nominal. Yeah, should it? Yeah, it should have landed already right? What we're looking for now is where it's even done.

or it hasn't. Orbiter should be in view soon of our vehicle. So if you're on the surface center to listen to one transmitting back or it's not radio that's really designed to talk between spacecraft, it doesn't really matter. we're watching it live.

so you know I'm ready to receive signals from the lander. Okay, Mro is ready unless enabled and waiting for the to hear from our rover. Okay, so it's like because otherwise you know the orbiter is an orbiter. it's already in the planet.

It's gotta come with through at the exact window time. Um, but so that's all there is for our own, uh, health and well-being today to keep our nerves in control. Yeah, everything's already happened. It's already in a thousand pieces or it's on there.

or it's on the ground. Telemetry until several minutes post landing. We won't get that data for several hours after landing. Thank you Lightning Mcqueen! Recorded a big fan from India.

Thank you very much Earth later we are continuing to receive heartbeat tones indicating that everything is nominal. Come on odds, everyone. give me the odds. I put it up 85.

It's gonna do it because we've already had one success. I reckon 85. I reckon this will be getting. I reckon I hope my radio on the rover.

I expect at least four pieces. Well, yeah, there will be. And there'll be the heat shield. There'll be the, you know, the parachute, the back shell, or whatever.

The entrance is nothing more than just an arbitrary place in the sky that we've defined to be above the atmosphere. Right in that point, there's definitely a hundred kilometers. Hey, Mike's here. Mike's here.

Schrodinger's spacecraft. It is a Schroedinger's Rover at the moment. so the vehicle thinks it's happening. It's both alive and dead, which is a great sign.

Perseverance: I so wanted him to call it the uh, Carl Sagan. Like the Sagan, but you know, and they went with a similar theme 100 We need a win. Yes, I agree. we need to win.

We're just under two minutes. It's already big news, isn't it? I think it's pretty big news. It's closer to Mars. Preservance is actually being pulled in by gravity and accelerating by the time I don't accelerate.

Interface point Show: Someone's thought of that under 5.4 kilometers per second. We're at about 90 seconds from entry interface and standing by for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter to pick up the telemetry. 50 420 Someone's confident they didn't They got they didn't do this. In 2020, it would have been doomed.

I agree. it was 2020 was a show so you guys can hear the audio. Good, Yeah, the uh. the background audio.

just. I haven't touched anything. I'm not going to touch anything. You're deaf.

What are they saying? They're just talking about the um, you can get up closed captions can't you? If you if you can't hear you would get up. Well, you can't hear me. You'd have to use closed captions. It's going to do it.

It's going to do it in receive mode. not Murphy's not there. No, it's going to do it. I love the blue desk lighting.

Look at that. Why doesn't the background have the blue light? We're about 30 seconds from entry. Interface Project is going about five point two kilometers per second and is about a millimeter kilometers kilometers above the surface of mars. Confirmed data flow.

Oh here we go. Yeah, like I should have had like stats and stuff up. I don't care like it's I should have speed from entry interface 5000 meters per second, 5.3 kilometers per second, and 158 kilometers. 150 numbers from the surface of Mars.

Fuel: Plenty of fuel is it? I can't see. It's under the atmospheric entry thing and it's just it's coming in at 15 degrees. It's um. oh, is that our target? Zero Crater? I didn't I knew it was landing in a crater like an ancient crater.

Entry interface pressure is currently going five point. That's a nothing burger. Second, it's just a 20 arbitrary height mark 28. No worries.

And yeah, they can't slow it down with the parachute. It's just it's not good enough. Well, they can slow it down, but they can't stop it. Atmosphere: so that's why it has to do the powered descent.

There is enough atmosphere. it will start controlling its path to the landing target. It's got little rock vector thrusters I guess controlling its path and then the final corrections are done by the powered slow down and then they just destroy that all that poor little descent engine thing. This little bad boy is about 5.36 kilometers per second and all this bad boy in here 67 kilometers from the floor.

All that does is one little job. in the last flight 30 seconds or something. Anyway, we have separated the cruise stage that's done and we've still got the Um heat shield and the and the back shell. and there's cameras in the back shell and cameras on the lander this time.

so they've got a whole bunch of extra cameras. I don't know if we're going to see it live though. I don't think so. We have indications that Perseverance is now performing bank reversals in the atmosphere.

These are the steps in order to control its distance to the landing target press. President has just passed through doing his job maximum deceleration and has indicated that it felt approximately. So there's like 20 steps left or something. Acceleration: Tomorrow: 28 steps or something.

Nrrr is locked in. That's a Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. We saw a small outage. Someone's going.

Yes, Yes yes. Telemetry from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter dripping down the heating phase likely caused by the plasma blackout. Delete Facebook, Australia. You'd get no complaints from me.

It doesn't take hours to transmit the video. Oh, it takes hours to transmit that video back. Yeah, because it's not real time. They've got to buffer it right.

It's like it's like hi def isn't it video the landing video. but we will get video from it. Yeah, but I don't think it's live. We have entered heading alignment which means Presidents is no longer trying to control the distance to Mars but in to the target on Mars, but instead is flying straight to the target, flying straight in perish.

Man, Just imagine spending years of your life on this and just could just burn up. Holy crap No. no, they used a 1.3 megapixel camera. Did they? Oh well.

whatever. Will still get decent velocity is about five decent video of it and 50 meters per second at an altitude of about 15 kilometers from the surface. Dave head for this moment. There's nothing else down the bottom corner.

I'm not blocking anything. he's reporting good telemetry lock. We are coming upon the straightener. We are starting to straighten up and fly right maneuver where the spacecraft will jettison the entry balance masses in preparation for parachute deploy and to roll over to give the radar a better look at the tedious ground.

The navigation has confirmed that the parachute has deployed and we are seeing parachutes decelerations. Awesome meters per second at an altitude of about 12 kilometers from the surface of Mars. So the parachute has deployed. Brilliant First advantage of now.

slowed to subsonic speeds and slow down from like 5 000 meters per second to wow. 150 meters per second. That's brilliant. but the parachute is still not enough to slow it down to land.

Um, so they've got to. That's why they're going to do the power descent, otherwise it'd still be going a couple hundred kilometers an hour when it landed. And no, so they'll drop the back shell. Yeah, priming logic on the ground.

current velocity is continuing to descend on the parachute. We are commenting on the initialization of terrain, relative navigation, and subsequently the priming of the landing engines. Our current velocity is about 90 meters per second at an altitude of 4.2 kilometers. Two K is above the surface.

Whoa. Radar is locked in that the lander vision system has produced a valid solution and part of to relative navigation. It's founder because it's got this is autonomous landing. It's gotta do it itself.

It's got to figure out its own spot is 83 meters per second at about two points six kilometers. So that does that. Radar and visual, We have confirmation that the back shell has separated, back shell's gone. We're currently performing the divert maneuver.

Current velocity is about 75 meters per second at an altitude of about a kilometer off the surface. Our descent's not far off. Keep the keep the checklist up. Here it is: We have completed our terrain relative navigation.

Powered approach speed is about 30 meters per second. Altitude of about 300 meters off the surface of ours. Oh, they're going to do it. They're going to do it.

It's not going to fail from here. It's going to do it. We have started our constant velocity, but it's going to pick a spot here. Conducting the Sky Crane about to contact the fire Target window is much smaller than it was last time, so that's good.

so they don't know exactly what the terrain is like. Skyteam maneuver has started. Sky Crane has started. It's dropped it.

It's dropped it. It's hanging. It's going dangly. Come on.

Go you little beauty. Come on. We're getting signals from Mro that's the relay satellite Mars. That's it.

Too easy, too easy. Oh, I need a bit more tension there. but the seven stage has flown away and it's flown away. It's flowing away.

Transmit correct because you need it to fly away and then crash somewhere else. The power descent vehicle. They did it. son of a gun.

They did it Well done. Touchdown Touchdown. How long before we get the first Um shot? Because they had the Mars Reconnaissance Orbital. It looks like he's going to collapse.

It's real. Stay tuned. We might get some pictures. We will stay tuned.

Yeah. 7 55 A.m Sydney time. Right on target. My boy Sagan's at home watching this and Huxley probably.

but Sagan was so excited he's got to leave for school in five minutes. He's been writing on this. Yeah, wow, Yeah, we just. I did the news that perseverance is a lie.

It didn't happen tomorrow. Yep, Pixar, It didn't happen. I agree. It's like we have seen the completion of Edl 3000 copy activity.

That is as expected, a few minutes probably until pictures. Yeah, I think it wasn't long last time and we'll just get some grainy thing of the of the wheel or whatever. I'm still seeing a strong signal from the lander. You're still getting a signal all right because the master conservator won't stay there long.

It's it's then got a bugger off so we'll get our landing photo and that's it. I think I think it. I don't know how long the reconnaissance orbiter stays in the window um and can transmit stuff back, but we've just heard the news that oh no I don't want to know. On the surface of Mars looks like we have some more news in it.

Looks like we're getting the first image we got. We got it. Look look look. Well that was quick.

You can see the curvature so it's up right. I have the target point on the map. When you are ready we are ready. L3 Go for it.

It's up right. It's upright. Can you see the curvature? Wow, they did it two out of two times. It was basically the same landing platform as last time and they did it.

Wow. Two from two. Wow. I'll be uh, moving in showing you that.

oh the Jpl Raw was ahead by a minute. was it? I'll tell you the story. after this of last time I watched it. If I haven't already.

Well I haven't This time around has just put the first oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh there it is. Now it. Show me that again from the engineering cameras known as the hazard camera. Uh, this camera is mainly used to help the rover drive safely around Mars.

show us closer. Okay, higher resolution photos than that? Yep, gee yeah. it's pretty pretty flash terrain. but that's what they pick.

They're they're so they're inside a crater. They did it well done. Why is it? um. grayscale? Um, I don't know.

Maybe it's it's just a hazard camera. I don't think it's anything special. So um yeah. I don't think maybe it doesn't need to be color.

I don't know. Or maybe it's just a simple a low res first feed or something. Nasa is not good at live stream. It's okay, but yeah it's not.

It's not Spacex. Glad Nasser is big again. Yes, We just got our second image in second image. Our second image is in.

Is that it? Okay this these these we have a camera in the front. Oh, there's the wheel. It's the way I get your dialogue box off. It's uh, it's They're near the ground so these are pretty close.

You can see the wheels there. uh. and and and they're a little dirty because you've got glass covers over these these cameras. But glass covers seconds after landing so so they're still dust in the air from our landing event.

Yeah, they pop the lenses off. That's what's happening. Um uh. you know this happened just seven years ago.

Oh nice, Yeah, Look at that. This is really amazing. Wow. and uh.

we even know where we landed. This is the most amazing thing. The vehicle has told us where it's landed because it figured it out. You know, this is a sign.

Nasa works, Nasa works and we bench arms together together and our brains together. we can succeed. This is what? what if curiosity and perseverance meet up on all of the problems they'd have to socially distance to do these kinds of things and make success happen. They have got cameras in decent places.

This is just the hazard camera. It hasn't uh, deployed. You know it hasn't fully deployed yet now. Um, Acting Administrator of Nasa and we will get Steve welcome and congratulations Hey thank you.

What an amazing day! We will get uh, video of that landing because there's multiple cameras so that's being uploaded probably now. Amazing to the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and that will be perseverance about curiosity on Mars. and what? What Are just a credit? Science Lab on Mars Another one, the second one. Unbelievable.

Better work 2.8 billion Yeah, the adversity, color camera costs goes and all the challenges that go with landing a rover on Mars plus the challenges of Covid and Um and just an amazing accomplishment. Yeah, that's tough. What does this mean for now? And it's future plans. So for rock exploration every time.

Unbelievable. With new instruments we discover new things and things we never thought we would discuss a while before we get Hd stuff in that video. I'm looking forward to that video. That'll be great because we'll get orbiters.

I believe we'll get video of the separation and then of the I think they've got one on the Uh power descent vehicle as well so we should see it hanging. I think it's an experiment on this mission side, but in fact we can have a look and use it as an observation science platform by putting instruments more about the can also use the descent stage um for future rovers descent and uh and then yeah. I I think there's a camera on that so we should see it dangling ability. and then there's another one on the back shell.

so we'll see the back shift robots on Environmental Dynamics Analyzer. It's going to give us uh. properties. Yeah, this has got these dust particles because this has got tons of stuff on it.

Very different instruments to uh just it's just a previous incredible, very different the science and the different. That will be an amazing mission. The first round trip to Mars and back and bringing those samples cached by perseverance is going to be awesome examination. with state-of-the-art um equipment in our laboratories here on Earth.

we have so much to look forward to. Solar Freaking Miles Student question coming in from Landon. Let's take a look. Thank you From Portugal! How do I Portuguese? Your name is Landon Applegate I'm in sixth grade and I'm going to accommodate for academic excellence and my question is do you think we could get resources from Mars to help on future missions or even as like a launching point? Great question: Land.

And actually we have an experiment called the Landon. The Mars is that his knife landed you restructurization experiment Moxie and it's going to demonstrate generating oxygen from atmospheric Co2 and that could help Gener Devel you know, generate breathable oxygen and even if we can liquefy it, oxidizer for propulsion systems. So that's a tech demo on perseverance. and then we're going to continue to characterize the frozen water on and below the surface.

All right. Should I, um, and eventually try to figure out how to extract? let me know if I should kill this audio should I keep it going or not And then we can use that for potable water and also break it down into oxygen And hydrogen. Great question for rocket fuel. So because the questions have been pre-selected and they are great to support human missions to Mars.

thanks for taking the time to talk to us today Steve, Thank you And now that Perseverance has safely touched down on Mars, let's learn more about what's in store for the rover. Joining us now is here we go: Surface Mission Manager Jessica Samuels Your Surface Operations Team has now taken over. What are they doing now? Yes! We are so excited here in the service Mission Support. I want to hear what she has to say.

The team will do a handover with the entry, descent and landing team and pass any critical information and then this team behind us will be the team that does the health and safety assessments databases as we progress on Ohs of course Ohs have to look like for your team so as we're gonna file and I want you next report and Tps reports, standing team will be working overnight while the rover is asleep so that uh, we can perform the initial checkouts of our key rover. Would I vote for Thunderfoot for Dictator assigned to the government? It's all in time. A dictatorship's the only way to get stuff done which happens in the morning and so we will be working around the clock Uh, making sure that uh, Perseverance is healthy and um we will begin this exciting adventure. Full footage of the landing when Spielberg has a chance to finish.

It wakes up at the same time every day, but on Earth that's 40 minutes later. So the team is going to be shifting our work schedule by 40 minutes as we come into work over the next few weeks. So it it'll be interesting to see what they choose for the flat Mars flag. you know, some late late nights, but uh, but we're also excited and uh, we uh, can't wait debunking time.

Whole new lifestyle. Yes, we also have a student question. she might sound nervous, she probably hasn't done this video. Hi my name is Sophia Lopez and my question for Nasa is how's perseverance going to survive? And here's a drawing that I made from perseverance.

All right, They just, uh, thank you. How's it going to survive? Well, Sophia, Perseverance survives. I'll kill the audio with a power source um that charges its batteries. uh, overnight while it sleeps and it keeps gone.

Gone ski. There's a Nasa control. They're watching the feed. The main Nasa feed up here, but you got the same audio.

I was watching this one before and it's exactly the same. Um the um yeah. they were just like the the audio feed on this was just them watching that. Well, it was just the feed from the big screen there.

So from this a sneak peek into the future. I can't believe they did it. Well I can. They did it.

I I gave what did I give it at the thing? 80 85 or something. Oh story time Dave. Yes I tell you the um story of last time. Um right.

Oh geez okay I'm not used to the silence now. Yeah, the story last time. thank you very much. Trumpet Sock 400 Uh Rubles Rubles.

I'm sure that is just stopping the Inspire to say thank you for educational content thank you very much. And uh yes, the story the last time. Um, the last time Opportunity landed. When was it like 2012 or something? It was so long ago.

Um Jesus. Almost a decade ago. Now crazy long time ago. Um when Opportunity Rover landed I thought oh look I'll go somewhere to you know to record the event or whatever.

So I went to um I originally I I actually went to two places. I went to the Powerhouse Museum because they said that they had a thing on right? They had like a live event and everything. So I went there and they weren't doing jack or like nothing was happening like I was like it was like it would. It was deserted, nothing was going on and I thought this is boring as bad.

So so I looked at I you know I looked around I thought oh the um I was ever going to go back home or because this was like many hours before. Um so I had time enough to go home and then watch it live on my you know, just via the feed or whatever and then uh or uh. but then i uh read that um the Sydney Observatory had an event and I thought ah they're they're the space nerds right? You know the Sydney Observatory, they'll be they'll they'll do it right and they were having like a big media event and stuff. um so yeah so I went to the Sydney Observatory to watch it and and and I got there and you know they had a room set up with all the chairs and the big screen.

You know it looked okay. this is all right you know. So I hung around and um and it's getting like and of course I couldn't go back home at this point it was too. You know it was too late so I'll go okay, I'll sit here and watch it and uh so we're all in the big room watching this thing on the big screen and I was recording stuff and you know I had the camera set up and I was doing stuff and everything and uh then I like like I'm looking at my watch and I'm going i I think it's already landed and it was like and it was like half an hour It was still like half an hour before or something and um and it was getting like and then I thought it's like 20 minutes it's like no 10 minutes passed when it already landed and they haven't even haven't.

I know there was like seven minutes of terror, you know. But it was like, um, they hadn't even started like the entry into the atmosphere yet and I'm going. This thing's already been on the surface for like 10 minutes, so it was like it was at least 20 or 30 minutes behind or something like that. I'm I keep looking at my watch and I'm scratching my head and I'm I'm checking.

You know I I didn't want to check, uh, Twitter, but you know I'm checking the phone and checking the time. Um, that you know and I'm going. yeah, it's right. And the guy next to me is going.

He's pointing at his watch. You know, because everyone's You know they're telling everyone to be quiet and everything because it's about to happen and you know he's pointing at his watch and I'm going. yeah, you know, like what the like And then we start whispering to each other. I think it's loud, it's like it's already landed, hasn't it? and he's going.

Yeah, I think so. So I opened up. Um, so I open up Twitter and everyone's celebrating. You know, they've been celebrating for like 10 minutes and it hadn't even.

They would only just like start starting the atmospheric entry or something. And these bastards had actually delayed it by like, deliberately delayed it at the Sydney Observatory by like 20 minutes or something. I don't know why. And then we're you know, still talking to each other and then somebody comes in and we both get a tap on the shoulder, going, shut up or leave, You know, and we're going.

What the? And it's like So we just like walked out and um, it's like you got to be me. So yeah, we were pissed off. We were pissed away and it just took all the excitement away from it. So I totally missed it.

I should have just sat home and watched the live freaking stream. Like, yeah, we were. We were pissed off. So yeah.

Sydney Observatory thumbs down. Pathetic. Yeah. 20 minute delay.

Like at at least that was on top of the actual signal delay, right? And yeah. I. Yep. Yep.

I was so excited about that landing. it was completely ruined. So yep, so that's my story. Anyway, still traumatized, so I thought I'd just watch it myself this time.

Yes, yes, Sean. it landed, it worked. We got photos back, we got a couple of photos, and there's the, um. ingenuity.

Um, the copter thing that they're going to deploy. I don't think that gets deployed for like a week or something. I think it's You know it's they're gonna do lots of stuff first. And um, one of the one of the crazy things about this is it's got a a sample capsule thing underneath.

There's a robotic arm underneath the rover. We'll see if we can get it. It's underneath the rover that learn more about the rover. There's a sample collection system under the rover and it's got this robotic arm that it's got all these uh capsules where it can um and dig up like one-inch core samples or something.

So it's going to get core samples. It's going to put them into these capsules, it's going to seal them and then just toss them onto the surface so it just poops them onto the surface. And the reason that they're doing this is so that um, and they'll do it as soon as possible so that it doesn't have time to contaminate the material right? So these materials will be a pristine condition for when another rover comes along in the future and can then pick up these capsules and return them to earth. It's like I, I don't know, I don't, I think that's I, I, I don't get it, you know, But I guess they got it all figured out that it's You know it's cheaper and easier to have the poop machine now.

actually take these samples and to drill them to get these core samples this big, uh, course down like one inch deep or one inch wide or something big core samples and then seal them in hermetically sealed capsules and then it poops them out the back um and just leaves them on the surface. and then apparently, um, or does it store them in the bottom and then the Rover in the future comes along. I don't know. No, no, I think it poops them out.

Yeah, it poops them out and they just lie on the surface waiting for some future rover. If they get the budget, I don't know if they've already got the budget for it. Um, to come along and then you know they've already got those hermetically sealed capsules to. I don't know.

maybe that's a cheaper solution, but I don't get it. I don't. I think it's a bit. Yeah, it's a bit weird.

Um, oh no. it's a corsair. I think it's one inch wide I think. and it's a big corset.

I think it's a deep. Like not deep. not like meters deep. But it's a it's a core sample.

So yeah, I don't know. Um, but you want a combination of stuff, You'd want a combination of topsoil and and core wouldn't you? Oh, Mark, Robert did a video on the poopy arm. Did he? Yeah. And yeah, how will they find the little turds? I don't.

I can I do a video on impedance? Um, yeah, probably. Actually, that's kind of part of my yeah yeah can do. Most expensive poop samples ever. They got leaded, so do you think instead of that lead-free rubbish? I know they do have an exemption.

They have a Ros exemption. Yeah, they won't get samples back for a decade. Could Could land humans before then. you know.

Yeah, that dust storms, all cover. Yeah, like I don't I. I don't know if that's a good idea. Anyway, it's yeah.

They went to a lot of effort to design in this robotic sample arm on the bottom of the rover. and these little storage spaces and the capsules and everything. They went to a lot of effort to do it. So obviously they think it's super important.

but I don't know. I mean, it's not hard. I mean, you know it's not like this little rover's going to contaminate all of Mars, right? It's just. you know, land anywhere else with another rover, Take the samples and shoot back.

That's it. You don't need to go hunt and find these poop samples to like. I don't Yeah, I don't get it. I think I think someone was having a wank there and they got their, uh, they got their wanky idea approved.

I don't know. Can somebody convince me otherwise that the poop return thing is is superior to every other return mission idea? Um, yeah, I don't get it. Even if we had humans there, humans went there and scooped up the samples. We're not gonna contaminate it for goodness.

Not like you know there's ways to do that. You know there's ways to not contaminate it. It's just what happened to curiosity. Curiosity's still going.

It's still a thing. Still, way beyond its mission life. What's been going eight years now? Or something? At least I think it's got like another five years of power or something. Don't quote me on that, but it's got a lot.

Yeah, the other rover's smaller and simpler, but you know, I don't know. It's still got to be a sample return mission. It's complicated enough. Next phase scheduled.

Next phase of the mission. I don't know. They're still talking about the ingenuity copter there. um, and make them fight.

Yeah, but yeah. Two science labs. Because and that's what these are. These are science labs.

These aren't just like little, you know, like the uh so Jonah rover and stuff that went around. They were like little piddly things. This is. these are genuine science labs.

and this one's very different. This one's designed to look for our signs of life. So it's landed in a, uh, crater, a lake bed, bottom of a, um, a crate, a lake. Bit like a, yeah, they're pretty sure there was water there at the bottom of this, uh, lake.

So yep, it was really flat and sort of. You know, there wasn't much there where they landed, but that was the idea. I guess because it's a rover, they can just move it. so assuming that it doesn't get stuck, assuming that you know the wheels work and everything's everything's hunky-dory But yeah, that that whole complicated crane system.

that's two for two, the powered descent vehicle. which is nothing new. They're doing that for Viking. They did power descent for Viking goodness back in the 70s.

you know. Um, so you know they. they had that sorted the power descent thing. But then it drops it on the tether and then it drops it down, deploys, the wheels have to come out and it's got to land nice and gently.

And then it's got to cut the cables and then it's got a whoosh. Imagine if the cables didn't cut. Imagine if the cables didn't cut and then the thing tried to fly away and it just pulls them over. I wonder if it would.

Does anyone know if it would have had the thrust to like lift? Let's say the cables didn't cut and um, you know they'd use pyrotechnic charges. They're pretty safe. I've done that. I've done a video on those firing one of those off and they're You know they're They're pretty good, but you know if they're pretty reliable.

But if they didn't Um, would it have had enough thrust to actually pull the Rover which weighs a couple of tons? I think. what do I know. a ton or something weighs a lot weighs. you know it's the size of a small car.

wouldn't have had the thrust to actually pull the rover back off the surface. Or would it have Just you know, the rover was heavy enough that it would have just went and then on. The tether would have just boom or maybe pulled It over. flipped the rover over or something like that.

Oh man. Imagine that. Imagine if that happened and the photos come back and the rover's on its side. and then there's the descent thing still trying to fire.

It's trust us. Oh man, that's like half of me just wants to see that. for the lols. you know I I love a good failure.

Oh man. nuclear battery inside the robot will leak. It won't rendezvous with the Curiosity Rover. They're thousands of kilometers apart, I believe, so there's no chance of the meeting up.

Sure it would. Oh yeah, it would have the frost, right? Yeah, they wouldn't hover at 100. Yes, it must, right? by definition on no, no, Well, no, it slows it to like a couple of meters per second or something like that. Or one meter per second or something like that.

So it's good enough thrust to do that. and then it's got a but I don't know. Maybe it was on the thrusters on the borderline. Who knows, Who knows it might have had, you know, just enough thrust to lower it at the speed, and then no, no, no more thrust.

But once the cables are cut, then of course all that weight and then it flies away. So maybe it you know it didn't engage more thrusters and then fly away. Maybe that's all it had, so I don't know. I think it's not a given that it could have lifted the sucker and flowing it away.

Uh, without all the interview stuff. All right. Yeah, Jpl. Yeah, that's it.

Is that. uh, what's? what's their audio on there? Because last I checked, their audio is the same as the other audio. Oh yeah, no, it's the same audio. Oh God.

they got. What What the hell was that? They've got a bloody. Who's that singing? Unbelievable. I've got a you've got a band playing.

Why? reading. Observance: The Rover Landing Great. Yeah, Anyway, there's there's Mission Control. Yeah, yeah.

these are the people on the ground. That's what I want to see. I'll leave it there. I want to see the other wanky feed.

Yep, yeah, it was a bit cheesy. I thought you know the the hosts that they like. I was watching it like you know, like 6 30 this morning and stuff like that and it was a bit. It's pretty cheesy, You know? I these these presenters that they had.

They weren't They were more presentary than engineery you know? and I don't know. it. Just yeah is what it is though. Some dude doing a cover of a David Bowie song.

Okay, yeah right. Life on Mars by Bowie, right? Um, I've used Linux. Just a tiny bit. Tiny.

tiny. but no is the answer to that. Really? It didn't crash. Um, yeah.

we'll get the video. Yep, that's that was transmitted to the Mars Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and uh, it's probably making its way back now. Remnants of beagle? Yeah, I know that that blue lead strip on top of the consoles. It's pretty wanky.

We want Metric enough Freedom units. And aren't I on Jpl Raw? This is Jpl. Or is there another Jpl Raw? Is there Jpl Raw? Oh yeah. Jpl Raw.

Okay, Thank you. Oh no, Yeah, no. They've they've cut off Jpl Raw. Haven't they? Oh no, no.

it's back. Is it? No. Like it just finished a second ago. Did it? What's what's going on? Yeah, that's the.

uh. clean feed without. Yeah, I did know about that. I should have should have put that up.

Yeah, there they are. They're the ones who do the business and all the engineers who built the thing. You know, these are just the controllers. Yep, they forgot to convert Imperial to Metric.

Yeah, what? Uh, what probe? Was that the? um. that was the the Luna and that was not the Luna. The um. Polar Probe Mars Polar Observatory.

Was it Mars Polar Orbiter or something? No, it wasn't orbiter. It was designed to land. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just cut the Raw.

Yeah, yeah. the Raw's been cut. Sorry, Oh, they're They're interviewing Tim Dodd. There you go.

They've got Tim Dodd. What's let's listen to. Tim Dodd is cool. So uh, it's it'll be.

It'll still be very exciting when things land on the surface. Um, in my opinion. I have a tiny window. Christensen says, well Percy so well.

Perseverance Rover uh, record this. oh no. everyday astronauts sorry sweet greetings from Denmark? Hello Denmark? Um, I I think it will and it literally will every day. The cameras ad ingenuity and hopefully they both can record each other and get awesome.

Never before seen video. Um, on the surface of Mars. I'm really. I know that it is actually the plan to watch the flight, the first flight of it.

So uh, that would be super super cool. He would have done his research, he'd know. So yeah, um, that would must have switched. Oh they Nasa feed is gone.

Oh yeah, all the feed's gone. Everything's gone. It's all gone. It's all gone.

Everything's gone. That's it. What we're left with is the oh, look at it, look at it. We can.

We can 3d it? Yeah, there's the, um, there's the sample arm thing right? There's a little robot sampling do you remember? I don't know if I've heard actually there it is and then a little sample storage thing. So they got the little, uh, medically sealed tubes thank you very much. and then they somehow open them up and they put the samples in and then they see or hemetically seal them again that amount of temperature and then they poops them out onto the surface. So it's a Tc.

There's 11 minutes of communications delay. so uh, that it landed 11 minutes ago. Basically right. So there is nothing that? you can do in between.

Then it's all autonomous. So it's just a matter of like holding your breath and hoping. Five minutes ago from right now it landed on the surface. But about 34 minutes ago or so, we actually heard about it and knew for sure we got the data back.

Um, yeah. and and that's uh, well, it's killed. Let's kill Tim Dodd. And um, yeah, It's got a very different science package to what I had before.

There's some, uh, stereoscopic cameras. Is that there? Where is? is that the part of the hazard cam that we got the first shot from? I'm not sure unless or is it one of those. It's probably one of those that we got a shot from. Got the first shot because we got it like a part of the wheel and then, uh, you can see some of the surface.

They're just the hazard cameras. So yeah. but it's the same body and everything else. But all the instruments are different.

Like all the you know, I didn't have the sample, uh thing, it didn't have the ingenuity uh, copter in it. It drops down a helicopter somewhere and it's got a whole different slew of I don't know how many instruments are the same. I don't think as many that are the same. You know, the camera systems.

I think they came from camera systems up, upgraded and stuff. Um, but yeah, the photos we got last time. Absolutely spectacular. So oh yeah, there's a yep high gain antenna transmits directly to and from Earth.

Here we go, Can we? yeah? Power. There's the power source. How long is it going to last? Oh, we could just learn more about that. Come on, we need more.

Oh yeah. Front has cams. Yep, that's the arm of course. suspension body.

Yeah, that's the coring drill of course. Sample handling of. Have they still got the sundial on there? Oh yeah, yeah. there it is.

There's your sundial. Yep. Yep. there it is.

And yeah. anyway, very cool. We have a car size people don't realize people. you know, some people think like this is like quite small.

This is the size of a car. This thing's huge, right? It weighs like a ton or something. over a ton. It's incredible.

Yeah, and the only way to get that sort of mass like they couldn't Um, a lot of people ask why didn't they use the you know, the bouncy inflatable ball thing to land it on the surface like they did back in the 2000s? You know, with the um with the a couple of rovers they did back then? It's it's weight, size and weight. You just can't do it. So they had to go for the power descent thing. It's this thing's the size of a car.

You can't bouncy land. You can bounce your land something like this. Big, right, you know, little and the previous rovers are only like, you know, small little rovers like this. Either way, like 100 kilos or something.

um or less. And yeah, you can. You know, Put stack those in inflatable balls and just bounce it on the surface and then deflate them and it just rolls off the ramp and bob's your uncle. But um, easy peasy.

But no, that's why they had to invent the sky crane thing to land this and uh, and and they had to do the sky crane. For those who don't know, you know it drops, it drops from the uh yeah, you've seen it right? The the the descent thing right? Yeah, you've got the descent stage here and they have to drop this via a big tether. They have to drop the rover via a tether because of the thrusters Here they can't just attach this to the bottom of the descent stage because then the thrusters will be like inches from the surface or feet from the surface and it'll just blow up so much dust and crap that um yeah, it'd just ruin everything and just cover the rover with dust and and things. So they had to drop it via the umbilical.

You know the sky crane they call it sky crane remover. They they lower it down and it just it dangles there and um so that I can't remember. Is it you know how many meters above or whatever. Um but yeah it uh it lowers it down and um, that's why they have to do it so that it doesn't kick up as much dust.

And then they once, once they get the signal back from the rover, I wonder if that's a transmit thing or whether it, no, it'd go up the umbilical. It'd be the umbilical would have a signal going up, it wouldn't it? They wouldn't rely on, or would they rely on a wireless signal between the Rover and here, the Rover and the descent stage to cut the cord? I don't know if anyone knows, let me know. but uh yes. oh.

the 3d model can be completely disassembled. Oh, when Dave is right, Um, yeah. so they had to. So they send a signal back once.

once. This is once the foot, once the wheels have detected pressure that it's actually touched down on the surface, then uh. it sends a signal back to the descent stage. Cut the cables.

When or does the rover cut the cables Because you know it must be the Rover that cuts it. Must. The Rover must do the cutting because you want to cut them at the bottom. You don't want to have these one.

these cables dangling everywhere off the rover, so I can't cut them at the descent stage. They must be cut on top of the rover, right? So the Rover must have the little explosive cutter charges on it that I don't know how many I assume four cables. It wouldn't be one because then you have this big pendulum thing. Um, so it must be like maybe three or four cables that hold it down.

I assume four. Uh, then it would have to cut, have to cut the cables, and then once it's cut, the descent stage. Um, actually, no it wouldn't That's right. No, you wouldn't have to send a signal back to the descent stage.

You wouldn't have to, because if the rover's doing the cutting and it must. otherwise you'd have dangly cables hanging off the thing. then the rover's fully in charge of the cutting. The the descent stage doesn't know anything.

All it knows is that it's coming down like this, coming down like this, and then, oh, I don't have much. Well, the descent stage probably doesn't even care. All it knows is that okay, it's using x amount of thrust to put it down gently. and then once the cables are cut via, the rover cuts the cables.

then that same thrust because there's one ton less weight on it. It just flies away. and then it knows it's flying away. And and it just yeah.

it's got something where it flies as far as it can. um, and then crashes. I would love for the Rover to go over and see the wreckage of the the descent stage. That would be cool.

I hope they do that. That'd be great. anyway. Yes, so that's that's how it must work.

Yeah, yeah, it's obvious when you think about it, there's there's got to be four, three, or four cutting charges on top of the rover. that, uh, actually cut the Um umbilical cable. So there's probably no signal going up the umbilical. and no wireless between the descent stage and the rover.

You probably wouldn't even need comms between them, Would you Don't think so. Do I know more about that antenna? What? The little antenna on top? No, I don't But it is one designed to send signals. Uh, low rate, fairly reasonably low rate signals straight back to earth. It's a higher data link, I believe if it goes via the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.

So yeah, it can just get data higher. There's higher reception levels on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. They use that as a relay, and that's if you want to send huge amounts of data. That's how you do it.

But it can. The rover can actually point straight back to earth and send signals directly back, but it's fairly low bit rate if I remember correctly. Yes, there is an Australian space agency and they've been tweeting like buggery and all they do. They've got a new office and they just tweet photos of their office with chairs and things and they and it's kind of funny.

It's kind of funny and they're hiring people. You can actually go work with this string space agency they've advertised. Um, yeah, it's an 8k bits per second data link. Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. that. That doesn't surprise me. It's very low rate.

like they couldn't, you know. But it's better than nothing. So if the Mo something happens to any of the orbiters, Um, because there's a couple of orbiters up there and they can use a couple of them I believe because they're all standardized on their on their data links and stuff. So says there's an electrical engineer at Jpl, interview them for the amp.

Oh, there's tons. I'm sure we could. sure there's tons we could interview. Yeah, the ingenuity, copter thing.

Everyone's excited about that. I believe that's a couple of weeks away. Yeah, they just want to get the rover moving. You know, First priority is to get make sure the rovers all the rover's systems check out, then make sure it can actually move.

Um, I don't know. You know it'll probably sit there for days before they before they actually even try and move it. Uh, because they're you know, checking out everything. Probably got huge checklists as long as your arm and uh, and then the Ohs team.

Every day, the Ohs team have to give the okay, yeah yeah. You don't want the crane to go straight up and crash on top of the rover? Yeah, yes, it angles itself once it knows that it's no longer descending and the rover's cut the cables and it, whoa. It's suddenly got one one ton less weight. I'm sure it can.

It's got, you know, uh, sensors on there that can measure strain gauges on the on the cables. It knows it's being cut and then it goes into mode where it you know angles? I don't know. 45 degrees and then and then it just keeps going until the fuel runs out. That's it.

I, I don't believe it. It actually predicts where it lands it. It doesn't do anything, it just goes flies as far as away as as the fuel will let it. So I don't even know if the Arthur Rover can get to it.

The rover's ins into some massive crater or something, so I don't think like there's not. I don't think there's going to be much interesting stuff to see like we got with the, uh, Curiosity Rover. you know, going up Mount Sharp and stuff like that, It's like it explored. Tons of interesting stuff.

I think this one's smack in the middle of a some big ass bottom of some big ass crater somewhere. Yeah, yes, they're using 100 megahertz Pc Power chip. Yep, uh. Power Pc.

Yes, I'm sure there's going to be no leaky caps. they wouldn't use the liquid electrolyte. Let me tell you. yes, I have heard about the Blc1 signal from the Parks Observatory.

Yeah, um, very exciting. but but but unless they can get it again, I'm like last time was a microwave oven. literally. Last time they got excited because they got a signal at the Parks Radio Telescope.

It was a microwave oven Somebody was using. One of the staff were using a microwave oven and they thought they had this candidate alien signal and it was a microwave oven. and um, but no, no, it's very specific. It's on like 860 megahertz or something.

and it's on a frequency nobody uses and it's like, yeah. But unless they can get it again, I don't But there's no. Apparently it's like it's just a carrier tone and that's it. Like there's no sideband information.

There's no modulation. There's nothing. Apparently it's just A. You know, it's just A.

It's just a tone. It's on a frequency nobody. Would you know think I don't There's got to be. Nah.

Even somebody. I can imagine somebody sitting in the nearby dunnies with a little, uh, clicker going. You know, when it transmits 860 megahertz or whatever it is and uh, I can picture someone doing that for the lols you know, and seeing if they pick it up, it'd be tempting to do something like that. So unless they confirm it, I'm not excited.

Um, I've been thinking about give me a thumbs up. Uh, getting Paul Horowitz as in Horowitz and Hill? Um, Paul Horowitz on uh. either the Amp Hour or just on a zoom call or something. and talking about, um, the Seti because he's big into Seti, He's like one of the Seti researchers.

Um, so I was thinking about getting Paul Horowitz. He actually, um, I I do know him and um, yeah. I