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Inside a Chinon Genesis II
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And check out this beauty. It's the genesis to From Chin On and it's got the motorized stepless infrared auto focusing system. Ah what a Bobby does like. Look at this 35 - all the way right up to 80 millimeters.

zoom with macro as well. Ah, stunning that it's got a filter on the front actually. And there's our infrared auto focusing system. Oh that was state-of-the-art on 20th century cameras.

Look at that thing. a beauty. Let's turn this puppy on. See she fires up.

Yes. Oh no. wait whoa whoa whoa Whoa. Well that's the battery.

it's charging. the flash Is it? No, it's not a happy camper. What's it doing? It's not a happy camper. The battery covers.

Interesting. You've got to actually get a screwdriver in there to push that thing open and our pops. One things Jerusalem to see are five Lithium batteries are those were the days when you had to get a like app or the modern ones you know Cr123 battery I think they were for your A for your camera. Geez and check out where the memory card goes in this thing.

Look at it. Fantastic. Just slot your memory card in there. it takes you know I've wiping 24 shots or or you can get those you know really advanced 36 shot memory cards to go in there.

Ah, terrific and state of the art viewfinder. Look at this state of the art real-time view. Find out. Look at that.

I mean show I Can't get the focus in. sorry the infrared focusing system ain't working unless I pair on the damn camera. but look at that Stunning resolution on it. Zero latency and it doesn't require any power.

Look, just uses the available light. Brilliant technology. Ah, check it out. State-of-the-art rigid flex technology.

Look at that. So got some rigid boards connected with the flat flex right on there fan. Fantastic. Uh-huh It's a thing of beauty that's some sort of custom chip on board as well.

Terrific to see and just flat flex coming out the wazoo like. We got an NEC chipset down in there. and here's our shutter button. That's a real tactile down on this membrane.

Rubbish. Got a couple of trimmers in there - no worries. What a way for LCD Contrast I'm assuming. And by the way, just be careful with the camera flash stuff.

The flash. The main capacitor is going to be charged up in there. I discharged it with a bang. It was lovely.

So it should be right now. I Hope And if you're wondering how the viewfinder works, well, this is not an SLR Now the SLR Rubbish single lens reflex. No siree. Bob This one is a Zarrella a zoom lens reflex.

So yes, just like an SLR that what you see through the viewfinder is actually through the lens. hence why it doesn't actually come out on the front here and there. There'd be a mirror in there. There we go and that you actually see what you see is what you get.

Busy week. We've got more trimmers on the side here. Four of them. and there's our state-of-the-art infrared focusing system.

Aha brilliant! I Always wondered I never looked into how the infrared focusing system actually worked though. I might have to do some research on that. Maybe I can experiment, but I don't think it's going to come out as one module. The only thing I know about the technique is that it uses some sort of you know, triangulation type thing.
although I believe there are other methods are used as well. But yeah, that's one of the main ones. some some form of triangulation using the infrared diameter of course and the infrared receiver. Today there's our flash cap.

No touchy, so what we'll do is just discharge that, put it on the low Zr2 range of your meter here and that puts a low impedance directly across the input and it'll tell us the voltage as well. These flash caps typically charge up to, you know, 300 something volts like that? I'm so they've got a lot of energy in these puppies, so let's let's probe, shall we? And as I said, I shorted the thing out before just to get rid of the charge and I like it when they go bang. So it's got bugger all so it's now safe and check out the wiper contacts on what looks like our focus ring here and all these. They've got four wipers in there and you can see there's different contact patterns so it would know exactly where it is in the focus range.

And our focus ring has another set of our contacts on the bottom here so we can spin that around. But as you can see, not much decoding. not nearly as much decoding as they've got on the top on here. Check out that little wipe of contact there.

That's a nice touch. It knows when the memory card door is open. Brilliant. And in case you're wondering, where's the sensor? Where's Wally? Well, back in the 20th century you replace the sensor each and every time.

So yeah, guaranteed. New sensor worked. A treat. Now the amazing thing about the build of these things is that like they're actually difficult to get a part because everything's like soldered in place.

Finally, like you can't get that board out. For example, the contacts are sold in there. You can't get this board out because the flat flex that folds that comes from part of this board over there it's got the rigid back on, it is soldered directly to the board down the bottom and everything's like you soldered in place. So not easy to service.

but brilliant envelope design. Look at that. I mean that's just fantastic engineering really is. We have ourselves a date code by the wait 1989 Awesome! A good year That and made in Japan As I said, all this stuff's made in Japan Check it out.

Double-sided load as well. Thank you very much. And there's the contacts for the zoom. look at that so it knows the zoom position as well if we have a look at our cogs as our date again 89 by the way.

I Think this motor here is our shot moto cuz it like goes down into the into the bowels right down there. so that's uh yeah. I Reckon that's got to be the shutter. By the way, this thing was capable of continuous shooting.
I think where was it? it's on the side of the case here somewhere. it says it but had a button for it yet. continuous shoot mode. that was one.

There we go. Single shot or continuous. A whopping one frame per second. Brilliant.

And all the other cogs in here driven by motor which is down in there by the looks of it. Um, that's for all. the transport mechanism for our analog memory card and there's a neat little implementation of a contact board. look at that.

They got a rotary wiper there and there is the sensor pad which just screws down in there. Great stuff and this thing might have felt a bit plasticky from the outside, but nice big metal chassis inside there to hold the art lens mechanism on and to keep in place the shutter as well. So very nice and something fancy pantsy happening under that shield there. Anyway, I Reckon what? this board? this looks like the infrared auto focusing system.

it's tied into the the focus motor there by the looks of it and you know it's close to the infrared sensor. These tiny little wires coming up on here. they look like they might have come from the sensor, but I'm not entirely sure. Yeah I think they did.

Um, but yeah. I'm actually having a hard time getting this thing apart. It's dead zazz. Wow Really built like a brick.

Danny and take off. couple of screws on the side. Looks like our orange ring might pop off. There we go.

We're getting somewhere. we're getting somewhere. Hi, here's our infrared focusing system. Check this out.

I Got this lever bar here that moves this though. oh sorry, you have my finger on it. Moves this sensor here up and down like that. So this would be the I Assume this would be the emitter and this would be the receiver.

and it's able to move the receiver up and down. So this must be one of the triangulation based systems because you can change the angle of our reflection here by changing the angle of your sensor like that. doesn't have to change it much into to the distances. It doesn't have to change it by much, so there's only a small travel required there.

But there you go. That is an infrared focusing system and that might be like a pure lit, you know, like a analog type thing. I'm you know I Don't think there's any digital processing going on in there I Think it's just like analog servo type control to get the focus right. Neat.

You'll notice how they've glued these in place here on various points they would have aligned. I Reckon they would have aligned those There we go, align those at the factory. So yep, really starting to get medieval on its arse. Now the here looks like this front lens is just taped on up to there and that pops out there we go.

There's our front lens element and there's the rest of it. I Think it's like you know, eight lenses, eight lenses or something like that In you know, a couple of groups. but well, there's a front lens. Well I might keep that.
that might be useful. Hmm, let's have a look. Tada there we go. Bit of a fisheye happening.

Like I said before, everything is like assembled afterwards as his big heat steak which goes down in there I chopped that out and that was all that was holding this back part of the case on that was holding the two halves together. Really amazing and the battery contacts down in here. They were put down and soldered directly into the board like that after it was put in. It's really, it's really quite remarkable how all this goes together.

Wow There's our photo flash inverter board for those photo flash aficionados. I Know you're out there. Come out of the closet. that's a Rubicon Quality brand and there we go.

330 volts, Hundred eighty, Mike and finally Tada. The two pieces come apart. There we go. Beautiful.

We still can't see down inside the main lens mechanism though and check it out. There we go. We're in like Flynn There you can see the the focus center point in there, but you know what you're looking at is actually right up the top there, through that prism back into the front because that's just a mirror in there. hence the name zoom Lens Reflex.

So that's what we're looking at. So it basically just as you know, this mirror just pops up. You can see the mirror there at 45 degrees. It just pops up like that.

So the natural position is 45 degrees like that. and of course that reflects the light through the lens, off that mirror up there, through that is that a little prism thing and then out here through the view. Final like this. So what you see in the viewfinder is what you get I Don't know if this is a hundred percent coverage.

what that means is that exactly what you see through the viewfinder? Exactly. The field of view is what you'll get on your actual image itself. So I'm not sure if it was hundred percent, but you know this was a half-decent bridging camera between a compact you know, one of the compact ones of the day and in SLR So maybe it would have been reasonably close to 100% coverage. Anyway, that mirror then when you want to take a photo book, flips up like that and the image just goes straight through wham out here to the sensor in the back and here we go.

We can have some fun with this. Let's just hook this up the battery and see what we get. Shall we? got our motor here? This drives the cogs in here and that maybe will open a lens have I got the right orientate, the right polarity. Only one way to find out.

Yeah, look at that and of course you do it again. It won't go. We have to go the other erection. boom Flip back.

Fantastic just for kicks. Let's try that one more time because there's so much fun. Hello, smile, and there's the zoom part of the lens right there. Doesn't look to be anything complicated.
very ordinary actually. I Don't see I mean there might be a couple of lenses in there, but yeah, it's not some sort of really complicated arrangement where they go in and out at different lengths and things like that. So fairly simplistic. but we do have ourselves a little solenoid in there.

Look at that on the back and there should be able to see that tiny little that there you go, tiny little contact which wow. makes contact with the exposed part of the pad over here and then this point and then this point here. that's really like wow, Jeez, they gone to a lot of effort. Imagine designing all this.

I mean this is. you know it's 1989 so it would have been designed in like, you know, like early to mid early to late 80s and Wow you know you've got to figure all this out without. you know, the complex 3d CAD and stuff that we have these days we just take for granted. But yeah, man.

I'm afraid there is nothing else exciting to see inside there really because that's pretty much it. and it's a dog - there's all these screws around here, but bug it if I can get them out. I'm turning them but nothing's happening. Nope.

Oh, that's it. Oh, there we go. Oh, that was there, that was there I restore it I Can't finish this off without showing you the iris. So here we go.

Tada, look at that. That's a that's a rather unusual one. What is that? Like four blade is it? I've never seen one shape like that. but then again, I'm not a a real camera aficionado so but that's what.

It's an unusual shape, so that is quite a fascinating insight into. You know, you might think okay, it's just a film camera. It just opens the shutter and you know, goes through the lens onto the film. But as you can see, there's tons of advanced stuff that goes on here.

the infrared auto focusing mechanism. There's actually a fair bit of you know electronics and everything else or the flat flex and the whole works. And it's actually got lots of advanced capabilities metering and you know all sorts of whiz-bang SLR type. You know advanced camera type functionality so you know it really is amazing and just the way that they construct these things and get them into the form factor that they do 3d envelope design like this.

It's one of the things I really love about engineering is trying to fit stuff into. you know, spaces like that. So I hope you can appreciate how much you know effort goes into. you know, designing these back in the mid 80s? You know all these flat flexes.

all this, you know, all this mechanical stuff all has to be desired, how many separate parts, cogs, shows, you know, and lenses and brackets and all sorts of stuff has to be designed at, you know, hundreds and hundreds of individual items and I have to be designed. I'd love to know how many how big the design team was, how many people actually worked on something like this and cross what disciplines. - I've got to do now is figure out how to get it back together. Hmm so there you go I Hope you liked seeing inside this old-school chin on camera.
the Genesis - or what's left of it. Hmm, sorry friend, but yeah, it's in the name of science. It's okay, science and education and so thank you very much friend for sending this one in. It was awesome! So if you haven't seen any of friends videos and you're not subscribed, what the hell are you doing? I'll link it in down below she's got lots of awesome videos.

Check it out! Thanks friend! Catch you next time you.

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24 thoughts on “Eevblog #816 – chinon film camera teardown”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Shad Young says:

    Painful. The idea behind a proper teardown is to NOT break the thing being torn down.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jean Roch says:

    Dripping with sarcasm ๐Ÿ˜…

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Wellington Sanissimo says:

    the design team would be proud to know their Camera got observed and talked about in 2015

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tyler Beadle-Follis says:

    Iโ€™m about to get the model 3 and i hope it works

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gustav Gnรถttgen says:

    This triangulation module – fascinating

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vlad Cam says:

    I have a interchangeable autofocus lens also from the Chinon brand. Its has the same infrared AF system / construction like it shows on this vlog. Compare to today standards (phase AF detection) its very slow and not accurate for daily use..

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mark layton says:

    have your balls dropped mate – your voice is hyper high

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ็ฟ’ๅฑฑๅฅญ says:

    Wish videos like this were around when I was a kid! Took apart a disposable camera after I used up all the film, and came across the flash cap. Didn't think it'd have high voltage stuff that stayed charged up in it! It blew two big gouges in my hand a couple millimeters across. Probably a good thing that I learned my lesson early, but man, it sure hurt!

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars sysierius says:

    Memory card ๐Ÿ˜‚

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TheEPROM9 says:

    A lot of engineering goes into film cameras

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TheEPROM9 says:

    Its a SLR with a fixed lens

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TheEPROM9 says:

    Almost like a rangfinder. Only when in focus rathan a aplit image comeing together. The camera can see the IR signal

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars tripsadelica says:

    The Chinon Genesis is a bloody good camera and used properly with good film it will create photos that piddle on digital snaps. Such a pity you killed this one in the name of science.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tim Halfwerk says:

    Analogue memorycard instead of the word FILM HAHAHA

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robin Sattahip says:

    Some people took classic pictures with lesser cameras than that.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Turner says:

    Did he ever put it back together afterwards?

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars B Arms says:

    State uh the aught… State uh the aught… State uh the aught…

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hunter's Moon says:

    Memory Card????? – It's a roll of film not a bloody memory card!!!!

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ๐Ÿ‘พ๐™ฐ๐š—๐š˜๐š—๐šข๐š–๐š˜๐šž๐šœ๐Ÿ‘พ says:

    SO FUNNY!!! I BET YOU GOT A SURPRISE WHEN YOU DIDN'T DISCHARGE THE FLASH UNIT! I WAS A 35MM CAMERA REPAIR MAN IN THE 90'S AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THE TIME'S THOSE FLASH UNIT'S ACCIDENTALLY DISCHARGED THREW ME, SHOOTING A LIGHTNING BOLT'S WORTH OF ELECTRICITY THREW MY BODY, SENDING ME OVER 4FEET AWAY FROM MY WORK BENCH WITH A CHARGE ENOUGH TO LIGHT UP MY APARTMENT COMPLEX!! THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THAT ANY MORE.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars wutzerface77 says:

    Thank you Dave! Nothing's better than coming home from hours of work and just kicking back with some food & a beverage to watch your videos for hours. It's either you, How It's Made or the Grand Tour, but you have THOUSANDS of videos for me to endlessly devour, so big thanks from Philly! P.S. – Come visit sometime and have a real cheesesteak

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Peter Sage says:

    Tempted to send in a completely analog camera for teardown, but pretty sure it would be appropriate for this blog. (If I did it would have to be one without even a light meter or hotshoe.) They used an ingenious biomechanical power supply.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TY1979KA says:

    come out of the closet ๐Ÿ˜€

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HyroDaily says:

    What a neat camera! -ya, definitely a weird iris.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Don Erickson says:

    Those analog ROM cards are cool they are extremely sensitive to light, somewhat like an EPROM. They were wireless as well, but that came at a price as they had to be long and flat all coiled up with a traction feed writing system. The strangest part is you had to use chemicals to read it and only in the dark until the read process was complete. Not just anybody could complete the image type conversion process until it was rewrote to paper disk, then even kids could view the analog JPEG.

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