Unboxing of the new Inventables X-Carve Milling Machine kit.
How well will it work for PCB milling?
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Hi welcome to another exciting unboxing! Just like we had the pick and place machine the other day, I've got a carving slash milling machine, whatever you want to call it. This is the X-carve from Inventable, So thank you very much Michael from Inventables for uh, sending this one through. He let me, uh, configure it. The thing with this? It's an open source million routing, uh machine.
you know, xy bed as we'll see. We'll take a look here. I'll edit in a photo of what it looks like and you can configure it in two different sizes. I got the smaller size unit so that it actually fits on my bench.
here. the big size unit wouldn't actually fit on my benches like a meter by a meter or something. It's crazy. So I've got the smaller one.
You can configure it in the shopping cart and add all the bits you uh, want. And um, this one was about a thousand us dollars fully configured I believe with the more powerful motors and all sorts of whiz-bang extras. So there you go. I'll provide the link down below.
so thank you very much Michael. And of course, you can use this to carve or mill anything, pretty much including Pcbs. And that's probably one of the big things we're interested here on the Eev blog. This is hopeless.
I should have got the Dundee Knife out. Geez. Anyway, so the packing list. We have a whole bunch of.
uh yeah, I got. I configured everything so it's all comes in a box. Hi, my name is Zach Kaplan G'day Zach and I'm the founder of Inventables. Welcome to the community! We're really excited.
Yeah, I'm really excited too. Looks like a Bobby Dazzler. Let's go! Aha! Tons of stuff in here. Let me show you.
Oh it's all very exciting. Look at all these goodies in here and weighs about 39 pounds. What's that in kilos? divided by uh, 2.2 There's our chain for our our cables or you know, cable Snake. Whatever you want to call it goes under many different names.
Oh, I didn't actually open this. We have a material bundle by the way. look at this. Packed at? Oh there we go.
Packed at Inventables in Chicago. Beauty! Never been to Chicago. Why do all my viewers in Chicago? So I I presume that these are like test materials or something like that. Now Um, Michael has sent me a photo of um, a a test board that he did like a test up piece of bee milled out a copper clad uh Pcb and he could get down to like, uh, 0402 parts and uh, you know, standard pitch.
uh Qfp packages and things like that. Reasonably easy. So um, that's not bad. That's like some sort of black foamy thing.
I'm not sure what that is and that looks like some acrylic. Yep, and uh, some wood so I can carve. You know, pretty much anything depending on the tip that you actually put into this thing. Now here's the motion controller.
Let's oh geez, Yeah, okay, it is Arduino controlled. It is all open source so you can go to Inventables.com and check that out and you can order like all this stuff separately. Here's the Nema 23 stepper motors and whoa, they look beefy. Check those out. Bobby Dazzler. Wow. Smart automation. There you go for those playing along at home, there's the part number.
And yes, we can do the old trick of wiring our stepper motors together and Woohoo! Yeah! And I must say this is all in pre-release at the moment. This is one of the early Um units shipped if you are pre-ordered So there we go. We've got our hookup wire for our limit switches. What else we got we got our threaded inserts.
Look at that. Very nice end mill um starter kit. Nice. There we go, there's our there's our million bits.
Very nice. So these are your different types. I'm no expert on milling machines and things like that but oh that one looks really groovy. can't probably can't move it too quick because then you uh, snap the things off.
but I'm you know these are all. these would all be standard sizes and things. You can buy them anywhere for any different uh type material. any use you want anyway.
comes with a nice little starter kit. handy. We've got ourselves a clamp set. I guess you have to clamp your board or your material down or whatever it is you're doing because I've got some instructions in there.
There you go: The Inventables Wood clamp is a versatile clamping system that easily adjusts to the height of your work piece. They're very stiff, yet typically will not break your bits if they hit Well, cut in. Yeps, If you accidentally programmed the damn thing wrong or Europe or Joe, you didn't clamp it down enough and your material moved or whatever. And that's how to assemble the thing.
So if you're cutting this, uh, you know, carving out a block of wood like that, then you would use that sort of clamping system. Nice. And I got some digital calipers as well. Let's take a look at them.
Just you. Yeah, Standard electronic digital calipers? Yep, no worries, you get those for a dime a dozen these days, but that'll come in handy. Let's take a look at the spindle and headed for our protection. And I don't know much about spindles.
Of course, I know. Absolutely. Jack all about spindles. I'm not into this sort of thing.
Um, Dave two needs to be here. He's not here today, he's in tomorrow. But uh, yeah, he'd know all about this stuff. He builds his own, uh, milling machines of three.
You know, Cnc, routers and 3d printers and all that sort of jazz. but that looks, uh, that looks pretty robust and funky. There you go, And that's the, that's the clamp for our milling bit that looks really quite decent. I'm liking the liking, the feel of that, that's that's for sure.
So yeah, that looks feels solid. I like it. I don't know what if it's their own or whether or not it's a note some off the shelf thing there you go for those playing along at home. Actuator Actuator brand: Aem 81 416 Anyway, 24 volts Dcg 156 D1 if that means anything to you. and this holder looks really jazzy so that'd you know, sit in there and your spindle would be down in there and your bit comes out. And uh, Bob's your uncle and we've got the rest of the wiring that this thing needs. Or some terminal. uh, screw terminal blocks down in there.
That's how you'd wire stuff up and uh, we'll have to see when it all goes together. I'll get um, Dave too. and also, I'm gonna have a work experience high school work experience. uh person here in a couple of weeks.
They'll be here for a week so I'll probably get them to work on this and all the pick and place machine. So we've got some spanners and these are tools. because well, yeah, these things are like 3d printers. I think they need to be massaged.
Hey, we've got some eye protection. Get a set of Allen Keys and everything. I'm not sure if I paid extra for this or whether or not it's all included. Um, but yeah, nice to have a little tool kit with it that you can just mount on the side of the thing.
And of course, uh, when you're milling stuff, it's probably. you know, especially Pcbs. It's going to be really messy. You don't want the fiberglass dust going everywhere.
Really? You don't want eye protection? you want actually a complete perspex covering over the thing. So that's what I'll build into mine of course, and I wouldn't have it here in the lab. I'd it'd be way too noisy and everything else so I'd have it down in the bunker. But hey, that's nice.
Nice pouch. hey, it's acme. Me: Mimi: Z-axis um, lead screw here. So and some sort of little, uh, nylon insert, locking nut of course that's to hold your whole thing in and go in your Z axes.
There you go. And we have our extruded, uh T-bars or whatever they're called our big extruded bars here. I won't bother unwrapping those. Not terribly exciting.
And here's the Dce power supply interface. It is like just a bracket here and a bore. You add some just whack on some screw terminals in there. It's probably those screw terminals we saw before, so technically you might have some maybe not exposed, uh, maims wiring.
But you know you could certainly get in there and touch it if you probably wanted to. But we've got ourselves a uh, what is that is that A regulator is that looks like a mosfet. Oops, there's a goof. that's the heat sink on this board and there's no solder pad on there, so I can just wobble that and have the pin come through.
Oopsie. The reason the Pc pins there is so that you can solder it down so you get rigidity and it doesn't vibrate loose, which is absolutely vital in a product that has a motor and is likely to vibrate one of those bloody weird ass yankee plugs. That's no good. So we'll toss that and we've got ourselves a power supply.
As I said before, everything you can buy every everything I believe is like optional on this thing. So if you already have a suitable power supply, there's uh, no need to order one. So if you just want you know the or, if you have your own motors and things like that, there's no need to order one there. you know it's a Weo brand. Never, uh, heard of it. It's made in China, It's probably built down to a price, but probably does the business. And here's probably what you want: your core components. So yeah, maybe you can't just order what's in here separately.
Maybe you have to order all your core components. That's a a gantry slide plate that looks, uh, big and beefy. There's two of those, and oh nice. once again, all padded for our protection.
Jeez, that's beautifully. That's That's a beautiful bit of, uh, machining there. I really like that that is absolutely gorgeous. Whatever that does, it mounts something fantastic.
And there's We've got ourselves some belt, some pulleys, and some that is the, uh, make a slide end plate and the Z-axis motor plate. We've got ourselves some more extrusion there. and oh, bag of goodies. Look at that.
They're all individually bagged inside there. I won't take them out yet, but there's lots of, um, lots of screws, nuts, washers, all sorts of uh, things, and uh, bearings, and all that sort of jazz for uh, your sliding bars. So fantastic. They're your core components.
And last but not least, here's our wooden core bed. and they've got nice grit on there. I like that. I assume that's 10 millimeters.
I will check. if it's not, then I'll get back to you. But uh, yeah, that's how it's already pre-drilled so this is our usable work area. Of course, I think it's like a 30 centimeter by 30 centimeter working area at least.
And this is where our extrusions will bolt into, presumably and all that sort of stuff. And it sits on a nice little bed. I like it. What a winner! So thank you very much Michael for sending all that stuff in.
That's awesome. We'll have to assemble all this in the coming weeks and get it up and running. Shouldn't be too bad, shouldn't be too hard at all. Like, not like the pick and place machine, this one looks fairly easy to assemble.
You know, a couple of hours work uh, tops or something like that and it's And once again, that's all about the software as well that comes with it. So we'll check that out and we'll do some milling of Pcbs and other materials. Awesome! And if you're liking the video, please give it a big thumbs up and we'll see you soon with this puppy. Catch you next time you.
did you ever get this thing going?
Hey Dave, When will be seeing it in action?
Did I miss a video after the buildstreams, or haven't you done anything with it yet?
Don't have time to put stuff together. Would order it ready to go.
it looks hugely overpriced for kit.
i personaly build my own CNC mill for around same price, but…
it has 850x500mm working area, 2.2kw spindle, linear rails, ballscrews and cuts metall like a butter.
it also based on aluminium extrusions but much bigger ones with high rigidity.
looks like Inventables charge about 300% for price of all components.
EEVblog if you do some PCB milling.. look up V-carve mill bits.. with a shallow angle anthing below 90* i find 45* V bits work amazing.. will do 100% better than the sample in the above vid!! message me if you need more info!
EEVblog you were talking about milling fibreglass. Don't use fibreglass copper clad boards when milling. The mill wil be dull before you know it, besides the dust is not good for your health. At the fablab's where i mill circuit boards they use FR-1 exclusively and they do not allow you to mill FR-4. Also the same reason inventables only sells FR-1.
Hey Dave, Chris from Werrington NSW AUS here. You Rock! keep up the good work, you keep me loving electronics. 🙂
the spindle is just a normal dc motor , the whole thing is pretty fancy look, no actually use.
What happened to the Dundee knife?
Hm, I would like to see some measurements on that power supply… I have seen quite some looking similar and they would fail any emission regulations that I know of…
Yankee Plugs! Yahoo! Go USA!
Nice unboxing Dave !
Get dave 2 to build it and make a video of it please?
Those "Yankee plugs" work pretty darn nice. Only thing I wish for security purposes is if there was a locking outlet that utilizes the holes commonly milled into the blades.
Looks awesome!
hello from mexico I have a question you think about interconnect a PC and a gaming console? and encompassing a single system for the functionality of a computer more an console games and it works as a single machine to 100 % but can you advising me for this project
I had hoped with intern David on the scene we would have seen the video output increase – I and many others enjoy the electronics based videos and the design projects – are they only available to patreon subscribers now the advertising revenue model has changed ?
I guess it would take forever, but if you could carve everything but the traces from a copper sheet, you'd made a throug hole circuit board.
I have some steppers from a scrapped 3D printer (2013 model printrbot simple, too much droop) as well as a controller board from it, so I might go for a desktop CNC mill
Nice to see it designed using international (metric) standards. I see all the nuts/bolts are mm, and the spanners were mm as well.
I'm sure this will annoy people in the three remaining non-metric countries (Liberia, Myannmar and that other one that skips my mind).
I am building a CNC machine as well ATM.
just, it uses a different construction (spindle only moves in Z, and the table moves underneath it). it is also full custom, mostly made of OSB with some steel pipe and similar for rails.
sadly, I am using smaller/weaker motors (NEMA-17 motors, and a 100W 85.7x57mm motor for the spindle). however, both the XYZ and spindle motors are geared down a bit (for the XYZ, it is a combination of a gearbox and also it using 3/8-16 all-thread for moving things). so, it should hopefully have enough torque, however the travel speeds are likely to be fairly slow (probably 25 in/min, or 64 cm/min, at present, but slower if I increase the gear reduction further).
spindle gear reduction is about 30:1, with a max spindle speed of around 600 RPM.
est peak torque: around 10Nm.
was tempted by NEMA-23 motors, but they were a bit more expensive than the NEMA-17 motors.
mine may be used for wood, but is also intended for hopefully doing metal.