http://eevblog.com/files/ExtechLP100release.pdf
Dave & Dr Phil look at how Extech's new TL100 Laser Test Probes work.

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Hi I Got a press release yesterday from Xtec cuz I follow uh, Xtec, um stuff and this thing popped up and it was rather bizarre unusual. I've never seen anything like this before so I thought I'd just mention it. it's um, a Well, here it is. Xtec adds safety to high voltage testing with the first ever laser nonon laser test probes go figure and uh, it says here the new LP 100 series laser probes Leverage existing laser voltage probe designs with voltage and timing waveform acquisition technology previously only available at the scale intended for flip chip integrated circuit analysis I Had no idea you could even measure voltage at a distance with a laser go figure and in addition to some marketing blah blah, they got in here.

There's one. it says one laser acquires waveforms from the electrical source while the other laser creates a reference to eliminate unwanted noise from the signal data that is acquired. And if you take a look at the photo here, it actually shows a red laser coming out. but it actually says in here that it's um, infrared.

so they've obviously got like a jewel. um laser just like those laser thermometer. uh things work the you got to have a red a visible red laser to actually show your target that you're actually um, targeting on. So the red laser does nothing but it would have another, presumably have another infrared laser in there.

separate D or something like that uh laser die to um to one for Uh measurement and one for actually aligning um to show what you're actually targeting. Because if you couldn't see it, then you'd just be pointing it in the air and you wouldn't. You know? if it's a couple of feet away, Five, six feet away, you wouldn't be able to know exactly what you're targeting anyway. Um, I Have no idea how this thing works at all.

Haven't got a clue. but thankfully the new Eev blog Apprentice Phil has a PHD in laser physics and he's tried to, uh, figure out exactly how it works and he may have cracked it. Maybe thumbs up? Let's go. Phil All right Phil You reckon you cracked it.

What's going on? They don't give us enough, give us a lot of detail. Phil's voice is a little bit better by the way. if getting better. Heard it last time he had an operation.

it's getting there. so they don't give us a lot of detail except that they're using two lasers to that noise reduction and that, but still doesn't explain how they do it. What I think they could be doing is possibly using the Faraday effect par rotation through an air space. So they have their laser which is a polarized laser traveling through an airspace.

It has some Dric strength and if you apply a high magnetic field to that, you get a rotation that polarization right? because I Spoke to Xtech and they said that it does have a maximum distance of course of a couple of feet, so you wouldn't you wouldn't get much right? Um, because the magnetic field strength would drop off very quickly, right? You'd only have a small interaction length so you wouldn't be able to get too far away from it y closer you can get would be better but right, there'd be an Optimum distance there because it's designed for high voltage. this only works at Xtech. told me it only gave him a quick email. They didn't know all the technical Det details but it only works at like hundreds of thousands of volts.
It's designed for high voltage. Swit Yeah! so You' need a really high voltage and You' still only get a small rotation in the polarization due to this Faraday effect y Um, so what they're probably doing there is they just shining their laser at their wire with the magnetic field. it could be a bus bar or it could be it could be. Yeah, high voltage stuff.

and the laser would get modulated but passing through the field and you get a small rotation in the polarization. So when it came back mhm you would have a polarization sensitive detector which would have some relations like this. So as you increase the rotation, your sensitivity decreases quite dramatically. So You' be able to get a an indication of how much field strength you've passed through yep and and then get your measurement from that and that's how they would get it for DC as well as as well as AC Yeah, y got it.

So you don't need a don't necessarily need a current on your wire, just electrostatic field will probably be enough. so it's similar to how the voltage detection sticks. You'd be very because they can work with no current flowing through right and you, That's what I think they could be doing right, but you'd have to have a look at the patent or something exactly. They've got some magic going on there I Have to do a search on the PS right? So it's something to do with Faraday rotation through the air.

So the angle of rotation is directly proportional to the Ver constant for A, which is the how how susceptible it is to be affected by a magnetic field right, magnetic field itself, and the distance that it travels in that field. So you'd have a maximum distance here. you'd be able to extract out your field strength and from there you'd be able to get voltage on The Wire Neat. It's quite quite nice, so it's plausible plausible.

Yeah, we don't have ad mythbuster style one where we actually chisel it out or something like that, but it is plausible. Yeah, All right. Cool. Well, I'm going have to they I'm going to have to, uh, get one.

They're going to have to send it to me. We'll do a tear down and some tests, but um, yeah. I'll have to find some real high voltage high energy stuff to work on, but sure that's not a problem. Thanks Phil Nice see your PhD did comeing useful.

You didn't waste all those years. Finally! Awesome! Catch you next time.

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22 thoughts on “Eevblog #263 – extech lp100 laser test probes”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ernst Stavro Blofeld says:

    Thumbs up for Extech for bringing digital precision into probing.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Skyfox says:

    Schematic print bean bag chairs?ย  I love it!

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ramin Rajabi Oskouei says:

    Dr Phil big like ๐Ÿ˜‰

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zed Vee says:

    Loved it. LOL thanks.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gerjaison says:

    The least you can do Dave for Phil maybe a microphone and a speaker.
    I'm sure you have one!

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DoubleM55 says:

    Lol, he got me for a second, bu then I realized It's a joke ๐Ÿ™‚ nice job Dave ๐Ÿ™‚

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CampKohler says:

    Well, it's still close enough to the first to say that. ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Afrotechmods says:

    10 bucks says that in 3 months time, some cunts in the audiophile industry use this idea to sell $6000 power cables!

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CampKohler says:

    Yes, if you use a mirror to reflect the beam 90 degrees.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CampKohler says:

    Yes, if you use a mirror to reflect the beam 90 degrees.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CampKohler says:

    This is very dangerous, because all the charged water could kill someone should it land on them.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CampKohler says:

    Next you're going to tell us that, as you age, you will have to switch if from X10 to X1 to get "a decent reading."

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CampKohler says:

    I first thought you were talking about a laser being used to report the voltage reading (from a battery-powered probe) down a fiber optic to the scope, thus isolating it (and the user) that much more from ground. Measuring from the wire made no sense at all, so I went right to the posting date and… HaHa.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Randy Lott says:

    It uses patented 555 timing technology.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Lewis says:

    OMG, I fell for this hook, line and sinker. As a newbie to electronics I listened in amazement to Dave and Phil as they unfoldeded the mystery. I'm so embarassed for myself I nearly didn't post this. Excellent send up lads.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mjlorton says:

    Classic catch!!!

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andrew Grant says:

    I just learned Maxwell's Equations last week and it was cool to see how at least one of them was applicable. I would like to see more physics information like that and how it applies to real life!

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ForViewingOnly says:

    Get well soon Phil.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars realcomix says:

    im no fool Dave

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nick Norton says:

    Well done for keeping a straight face Dave & Dr Phil………
    I wonder how many takes this took while creasing yourselves up giggling!

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TechSpatz says:

    Where's the flux capacitor?

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pop Andrei Radu says:

    Just another April Fools Day.. ๐Ÿ™‚

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