Hi, Yes, it's Indiegogo and Kickstarter time again. And yes, it involves solar. And yes, it involves some government funding. and yes, it involves some other wacky ideas as well.

Let's go take a look at it. Um Indiegogo here. the Tipper the world's most efficient solar panel from smartphones to Smart Homes the ultimate in scalable solar energy from Nick vez Um, who's in the UK So raised 152,000 British pound from its 5,000 goal here 291,000 Aussie dollar dues here. Um, and but this isn't all of it.

It just, uh, raised it on September 15. Gosh darn it. We all missed out. We all missed out on investing in the world's most efficient solar panel, but uh, we also missed out on Kickstarter as well.

And they actually, uh, raised another 40,000 here. So that's 292,000 But that's not all. They also got a government grant. Uh, this is the company yellow Studio Limited.

They got a UK research and Innovation Grant So congratulations Uh, UK Taxpayers! Um, you've got a slice of this gamechanging investment here. Lowcost modular solar thermal system Us in total internal photonic absorption awarded to Yellow Studio and this was almost 500 00,000 So they're raised like almost 800,000 for this boond doggle. Anyway, let's take a look at it. Oh yeah, they got a video Let's Go introducing Tia the world's first patented 3D solar panel breakthrough in Sol with Tia's total internal phot absorption, internal phonic absorption, 200% more power while using three times less land.

Traditional flat panels rely on optimal angling and cleaning to convert only 22% of sunlight into electricity, but Keeper's unique lens bends light into 3D solar pipe, allowing for internal Reflections and maximizing interaction with the solar cells. Genius! No need to angle Tia towards the sun. Nole It continuously generates electricity, outperforming flat panels by up to six times. Six times there you go per area Flat: P only provide one chance for light to interact solar cells and convert 20% of 20 to electricity.

20% of the incident light to reflect 80% Does it bends the light into the 3D solar panel and allows it to be reflected internally. Ref Mechanics dict Ates that internal Reflections The more chance of a photon interacting with the solar cell solar of course, Quantum mechanics. If regular solar panels reflect 80% of the light and they only absorb 20% and convert that 20% electricity, look at this. it it reflects that 80% Okay, so they got the conversion over here right.

It only when it hits the first solar cell, it only absorbs 20% and it reflects the 80% and that'll just bounce off these mirrors here inside and then it can have another go. Have another shot at Uh, you know, absorbing another 20% and then if that doesn't do it well, it reflects 80% of that which is then 64% of the total reflected power and so on and so on. Diminishing returns. Of course you know you can't beat the laws of physics captain and uh, you eventually end up with like three times 30, three times more energy.

What happened to the six times a it's magically gone from six to three. but anyway, 300% game changing to produce an electron. There are more solar cells in the pipe as it is more solar cells and each internal reflection produces more electricity. Tia is freedom.

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Get it. Now you missed out. Oh .io We'll have a look at the website, but gosh darn it we missed out. Look at this A for 95 bucks I Could have gotten one unbelievable 30% off seven people back that seven people claim this one 16.

Nobody wants for the single jobby to charge their shoe phone. No everyone's gone for like the big packs here. 16 people bought this, five people claimed a 10 10 pack jobby, Six people claim the 20 uh thing module camper van pack package and oh no, nobody wants to power their entire house for 60 times. Uh, you know you can't can't suck in that many people.

but you know. Anyway, they had 514 people put their money into this boondoggle and over on Kickstarter here, 471. and of course, uh, the UK taxpayers. Um yeah, you got diddled as well.

So as you saw there, it has a this wraparound solar panel like this and it's got the reflection mirror in here. It's got a prismatic Dome on the top and so the whole idea is that. it's you know, a three-dimensional It just bounces the light around and reflects it around right. And the energy density here is Uh, 30 Watts Peak per kilogram, 3.4 times less area at just 1.34 square m and compared to a conventional flat panel which is 19 Watts Peak per kilogram and a 4 to 5 Square met area required for that.

Uh Peak and it's efficient. is not affected by the shockly quiser limit either. Um, due to all the internal Reflections And yes, this is a real thing and I won't go into details on the shockly quiser limit, you can have a look, uh for yourself. But yeah, basically there's maximum limits to what solar panels are can achieve.

but because this thing just bounces light around until there's all the photons just bounce around until they're eventually absorbed, you can get much greater efficiency out of this thing. Regular flat panels Only 20% You only get one suck of the Sav. So how this one works is you get multiple sucks of the Sav. So let's assume that you got 100 Watts going in here.

Okay, then it goes in here. There's no loss here on this Prismatic thing on the top n don't worry about that. Okay, and then it reflects down here. Okay, and then you're going to get it's.

your your regular solar panel? Okay, so you get your one first suck of the Sav at so it's going to be 20% So you're going to get your 20 watts out of out of your 100. Watts Coming in, you're going to get 20 watts and then it's going to reflect all of it. Obviously, there's no other losses and then it bounces off here like this. bounces off the mirror.

No loss there. and then it bounce. You get a second suck of the Sav here. So uh, you get another 20% opportunity chance there.

So you get an extra 16 watts and then it's going to reflect now You' only because it's diminish in returns. Of course, you can't break the laws of physics Captain Um, and then it reflects 64% and then that bounces over Here you get third suck of the Sav and then you get so. so. you get an extra 12.8 Watts over here and it bounces over here and you get an extra 10 watts over here.

and well. okay, we'll stop going there. and so you add all those up. Okay, 20, 16, 12.8 and 10.2 and you get 59% 59% and your regular solar panel.

If you're one sucker, the Sa you only get your 20% so you're going to get 300% more energy than a regular flat panel. Ah, genius. Hey, and you can read how it works yourself. Why are we so special? Because we reflect the light.

It's it's globally unique way of doing this. Nobody else has thought of this before. And yes, so they got the No. It looks like 560,000 UK pounds.

Well, it's more than that. was on the website. so they got that research Grant in 2020. Uh, their a 15-year Uh patent on it.

A potential $2 billion IP value with a successful prototype. Do they have a successful uh prototype yet? Well do actually have a photo of a prototype look. So these are their prototypes. Okay, Which so they do actually have a prototype and there's that like a little converter for each panel or whatever.

Yeah, but it looks totally legit. So they're actually doing this. You know it's not a scam, they're they're actually doing it right. Unfortunately, they're drastically mistaken in how this works.

Okay, anyway, you can buy all these multiple packs. And oh, you need a 9 kilowatt pack and oh, come on, come on. here's their timeline and you? they'll ship it in. Uh, start of regular orders at regular prices.

Uh May 24. It's not that far away for regular Kickstarter shipment, but yeah, they have nothing that actually looks like the actual final product here. But anyway, so they've got something that works, but where they've screwed it up is, of course you don't get 80% reflection. God Now there's heaps of references for this, but I'll just pick one at random here.

This is a Sinov Voltaics, a photovoltaic manufacturer here. And of course, modern solar panels have anti-reflective coatings on them and you've probably uh, seen these. In fact, they use them in their advertising marketing material. As you know our our panels don't reflect as much light into the neighbors's windows and they look better.

And they can change the color of how the solar panels look on your rooftop and you know some of them can look look really Jazzy with these new Ane reflective coatings. Now the reason they they use these Andi reflective? Uh, Coatings is because they need to absorb as much light as possible. And having these, uh, anti-reflective Coatings actually helps by in the order of a couple of percent up to maybe 5% efficiency. Uh, type figures.

And what they say here is um, the antireflective coding helps to increase the amount of light absorbed in the cell. This anti-reflective coding is very much needed as a reflection of a bare silicon solar cell is over 30% So even if you have bare silic right there right, you're not going to reflect 80% It's just ridiculous. So they talk about the color if you like, leave the an reflective coning off and stuff like that. So this: Tipper solar panel obviously has to order special solar cells without the anti-reflective coding on them, because almost all of the modern solar pan cells are going to actually have anti-reflective codings to help absorb as much light as possible.

Right But even then, even if you have bare silicon, you're only going to reflect 30% not 80% There's just how the modern art manufacturing of solar panels is, but you're actually not going to get this 30% reflection here. In practice, you only get a couple of percent reflection. And they've got these figures here. Okay, without the anti-reflective code in.

Okay, so a regular, modern, high efficiency solar cell without the anti without the anti-reflective coding is only going to reflect 4 to 8% of the light, not 80% And of course, modern ones, they don't reflect with the anti-reflective coding. They don't reflect much at all. They only reflect one, or you know, a couple of percent maximum. They're really quite good.

That's why you can get, you know, quite high efficiency uh, solar cells these days. So if modern solar cells without the anti-reflective coding only reflect single digigit percentages of the light like I.E under 10% Assuming you absorb like 20% you convert 20% into energy. Let's say you even let's just say 10% right? 10% reflected? Um, then where does the other? That's 30% Where does the other 70% of the 100 Watts here or the 100% in this case, Um, that hits the solar panel. Where does it go? It goes into heating up the solar cell.

it's absorbed as heat. it's just wasted as heat energy. So this is just total. It doesn't reflect 80% Now could you actually in theory get like this like 30 odd uh percent from like bare silicon, uh processed cells even though their data sounds like single digit uh, percentages? Yeah, maybe.

let's have a look at some actual data from the Uh National Renewable Energy Laboratory I've used uh this this is a US government uh, research. uh Institute They have all sorts of solar related stuff I've used them many times and they've done some reflectance, uh, spectr, spectr reflectant spectroscopy. To say that three times quickly. So what they've done is they've actually they've set up specific uh like test instrument here to actually design this uh reflectometer and they've like done raw wafer uh things.

and they've got like a diode array spectrometer. so they're measuring the entire uh like spectrum of so reflected uh light here and they do actually have this is interesting data Now after Raw soaring of the Uh solar cell over most of the range. Yeah, maybe maybe you might get up to your 50% at like your highest level like your highest wavelength here, but most of it's only around 60% But that's just after soaring right? That's just like the raw kind of like like you don't have a practical solar cell at this point, right? So then after texturing right, it drops right down. So around about that 20 % Mark there and then looks like you've got uh, like oxide Coatings or something on there that drops it by a bit more and then once you add the anti-reflective coating, you know it drops it right down.

So even if you remove the anti-reflective coating over most of the uh bandwidth there, you're only talking like you're talking sub 20% See? One of the problems here as always is you don't get a free lunch. If you want that, uh, 20% absorption and 80% well and maximize reflectance, you're never going to get the 80% not even close. But if you want to maximize your reflection, okay, you do away with the anti-reflective coding, but then that lowers the efficiency of your solar cell so you're still so you're not going to get your 20% You could lose up to like 5% easily, maybe even, uh, 10% depending on which type of sell you're trying to do. If there's going to be a tradeoff there between the amount you want to reflect and the amount that you want and the efficiency of your absorption.

the antire reflective codings are designed to help increase your absorption figure and increase your efficiency of your solar cell. Basically so for the entire basis of your product and all your claims of 300% 600% better is based on the fact that you're reflecting all of the light that doesn't get converted into electricity. and this just doesn't happen. It's it can be in the order of like single digits.

It's nowhere near 80% This is just ridiculous. Their entire thing is completely busted. You you just have to go to Wikipedia and you can read this. and Wikipedia actually explains how these anti-reflective codings effectively do what they're claiming to do.

But they do it inside the solar cell. So the anti-reflective codings help absorb the light, trap it in there, and you can bounce through multiple times. And this is all part of the design of your solar panel. And like the diffusion layers like the various layers of construction of your solar panel, the and reflective layers designed to keep the light in there so that yes, you can get multiple sucks of the Sav as the light sort of bounces around in there and it can increase the efficiency of your solar cell.

But you can't just go. Okay, I'm going to get a standard solar panel and I'm going to rely on all of the light being reflected. There's zero losses in heat. Yeah, good luck and like it's going to reflect it or bounce it off some mirrors and then bounce it back in to trap it.

It's Oh, God So basically all of the stuff that you're trying to do to increase the efficiency of your solar cell actually lowers the reflectivity of the thing. You can't have it both ways. Anyway, this is why they don't provide any like real world measurement data and they've just got some crude prototypes here. and they they've just got no clue.

They've got absolutely no clue about what they're doing and I'll show you what else this company's been up to. So I'll link in down below. So this is a company called uh, Yellow Stud. Uh yellow Studio This is a company called Yellow Studio so I'll link it in down below has been in.

They've been invited to Israel on a sponsored trip for pitching. Wow, look at this. So they're a research and development company. A sustainable research and development company.

They taking a holistic approach with minimizing eny energy use, land use and resources to sustainable generation. and Technical Innovation Amazon was a book company is now one of the world's largest cloud computing providers. Oh well, that means that they anyway. here's their tip art module thing.

but that's not all they do right. it's total internal photonic absorption. A new Innovative way to bed light and reflect to internally increase the amount of energy. Basically, it's what they're already trying to achieve inside the solar inside.

High efficiency Sol cells as it is. Anyway, it's just unbelievable. Look, And of course, you're not going to have any loss on this on this. What? Poly put the kettle on Poly? carb? uh, prison on top? No, you're not going to have any losses through that.

And no, it's just going to bounce around and bounce around until all the photons are absorbed. What a load of! But look, they've got the E Spin Back stands for Electron Spin Battery Charging yellow is helping to increase battery density and lower in battery charging. What does that mean for all types of battery using the peculiarities of quantum spin? Quantum Again, did you know that each electron has its own little magnet? In terms of Its Behavior Batteries only use electrostatic forces. e.

Spin Back adds magnetic forces, increasing the amount of electron density at the anode. Simple, effective, World class. Expect a crowdfunder for that one soon too. I'm sure, right? So look I I Don't know.

Just leave it in the comments down below right And that's not the end of it. Uh, they've got a SE Bass stands for Solar Electromagnetic Energy Power Battery system using liquid nitrogen as a working fluid in specialized solar containers. The full electromagnetic wavelength of the sun has absorbed to phase change nitrogen and increased pressure inside enclosed cylinders. This is then pasture or turbine and recondensed and the liquid nitrogen is reexposed to the EM radiation day and night, 24/7 Energy without fossil fuels and a way to store excess energy in a gas battery.

so they just is working with. Innovative Partners on phase change turbines Vector Cancelling condensers an electric plane electric plane with a novel propulsion system Innovation is not limited to large companies is limited by lack of imagination. Those who believe they can change the world often do. Yeah, well, sorry Yellow, you ain't going to change the world because when people get this boond doogle back and it'll work right? But you're not going to get anywhere near I'd be surprised if it's any better at all at all than a regular equivalent capture area of a high efficiency um.

solar cell. This is just. this is just rubbish. and they actually go under a different name alt here and I'll show you why in a minute.

Um, and yeah, Wank wank. Here's the products that they sell, right? They've got this alt pen, they sell a pen, a pen in aluminium, titanium resin, and stuff. like, right? Explore it on Instagram And of course, visit the Kickstarter because yes, they've got a Kickstarter for this as well. Custom 236 Backers: 99,000 Oh, that didn't work.

That wasn't that popular. Um, didn't they ship it? it? It looks like they shipped them. It looks like they shipped them Good on them, right? Good on them. And I'm sure they'll ship these.

I Have no doubt that you know. Well, there's some always some doubt you know hiccups happen with manufacturer and you know cost overruns and all sorts of things right. But I I Have no doubt that they plan to ship these things and and with any luck, the backers will actually get them. But uh, please, if you're if you invested in this boondoggle and uh, you've got one, you eventually get one.

Please send it in and we can do some performance measurements on it. That'd be absolutely hilarious. But yeah, leave your thoughts and comments down below. I'd be surprised if this is any more efficient per capture area.

and that's what it's all about. I Haven't even talked about the angle of Lights compared to like a a angled solar panel and everything else, right? It's all about the capture area. You've only got a certain capture area. Uh, right.

regardless of certain, if you got one square meter, you'll get a nominal th000 Watts insulation, right? That's that's the nominal figure that the solar industry uh, accepts and specifies their solar panels on per square meter. So 1,000 Watts up per square meter is nominal. Um, insulation? Uh, from the Sun Of course it varies greatly, depends on the season and where you are in on the planet of course. Um, and all sorts of other things.

Uh, varies daily. really? Um, at any given location. And yeah, but for a given capture area, this thing's just no, no, it's just utter because you've got that trade off. There's no mention at all of them using any you know, really specially designed, highly reflective panels that are optimized for high high reflectivity 80% Where you know, show us the manufacturer of your solar cell in this thing that's going to have 80% reflection and 20% absorption and zero heat losses.

It's just most of the losses in solar panels are absorbed as heat. Very little of it actually gets reflected, let alone 80% It's just complete nut of yet they sucked in a lot of people. They sucked in, you know, half a million pounds from the UK government. and well, yeah, the grift is real.

Um. and I'm sure they'll ship them and people will hook them up and go. H Yeah, okay, it charges my shoe phone, but uh, is it any better than anything else people? are? You know there's what? 10 people or something who? going to six people who are going to mount them on top trying to mount them on top of their camper van or something like that. and yeah, well, good luck.

Hang on folks. We have a skeptic. a Backa who's the skeptic Julianne B uh, who is a backer? and uh, from the response from Nick Viers the uh, creator of this thing. um, it sounds like um, she's a solar cell researcher of some description of some note.

Um, something like that. Anyway, um, let's go through it because this is hilarious. Well, I won't go through the whole lot, But anyway, let's see what Julianne has to say. The Skeptic: You are claiming that these solar panels will be three times more efficient than the current state of the art solar modules problem is that is physically impossible.

You will never be able to actually build a module with the 60% efficiency you promise. Let me explain why. Tip is Starting point is that the current solar panels have an efficiency of around 20% That means they use 20% of the energy that's contained in the sunlight. that is actually a very high number.

Photosynthesis, blah blah Tipper Claims the energy that solar panels do not use is loss via reflection and that this system could use that reflection problem is reflection is actually a minor loss mechanism in solar panels which it is, only about 5% of light is reflected. As I said, it could be higher than that if you remove the anti-reflective coding. but then you trade off the efficiency of your solar panel so you know sure it all comes out wash, not 80% like. tip A Claim: the main loss mechanism in solar panels is called thermalization.

That means the sunlight is absorbed, can not be turned into electricity and instead turned to thermal energy and heats up the solar panel. Tipper does not address thermalization. When you look at Tipp's claims and correct them using the correct reflection amount of 5% you can quickly see that the second and third solar cell barely receive any reflected light. This design will not be more efficient than a regular solar panel exactly.

Um. Tipp's Tech solar concept will not be able to deliver the efficiency gain so promise because the basic assumption behind the designs are wrong and there are great solar certification Laboratories that offer independent test. Why is Tipper getting why isn't Tipper getting such a certified test? Yes interesting. And here's the response from the project owner and designer: Nick Vias and I look I I won't even read this whole thing.

It is just word salad. It's just word salad it like I my God even like did chat GPT spit this out I mean like I just go through little bits of it. Um, we note that you and your team are working on third generation PV um materials in the Pbx3 category I Don't know what that is. Obviously he's done his research on her to then note this but the take note that the question she had is a why didn't you get a certified test? Um, you know, independent uh test and how can you claim the 80% reflection right? The 80% reflection, the initial 80% reflection from the panel, and then subsequent 80% each time you go through and well you can read this and starts talking about the shockly qua limit again and how they achieved 47% in the lab year.

That's the Um Nil actually did that. They have the highest efficiency, you know, with concentrated solar source and everything and you know and all this sort of stuff right? Then he talks of the Pbx3 material that she's working on or something and 150 c and talking about lates and then talks about the electron, the band Gap right the stuff and then any Photon Cascades and heat losses combination whole electron pairs Cascade about energy levels and just keeps talking about energy levels. Nothing in here at all about reflection right? and then in a trapped environment, recombinant photons, those which are lost to reflection did not interact blah blah blah blah. Also, an increased number of photons would then drop claims they'll drop down into the energy band that's actually accepted Um via Optical phonons and Quantum interactions, right? And it starts talking about spins and everything.

The point is that there are many impediments to a photon electron interaction and Tipper increases the statistical probability of an interaction occurring and that the Tipper uh, phonons are what's a phoneon. I'm not a physicist are desirable Unlike flat solar panels once again has not addressed the 80% reflection. It's a basic thing in the marketing for this thing is and the whole concept of it is that it reflects 80% How is it reflecting reflecting their own claim? reflecting 80% It's like and it's just all this word salad stuff like no, no, sorry, it's just read it for yourself. try and make heads and tals of it.

Anyway, that's just a classic example of a company. You know, an ideas company that just come up with all these ideas and think that they can you know come up with a new like we're going to do magnetic forces inside batteries to make them more efficient. We're going to use liquid nitrogen and then absorb all the energy and uh, do some like and then obviously like they read somewhere that oh, solar panels are only 20% efficient. Therefore, they must reflect 80% of the light.

It's complete. not of it's busted. So thoroughly busted. Anyway, as always, you can discuss down below or on the EV blogger.

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