Hi. I've gotten so many requests to do this one because it's making its rounds on Twitter and the Facebooks. Yet again, nano diamond self-charging batteries could disrupt energy as we know it. What's that you can smell? Yeah? marketing.

So thanks to everyone who copy me on their tweets and their Facebooks and their emails and everything and linkedin, this article and other articles about it's just hit the news again. everyone's talking about it. They're this Ndb or Nuclear Diamond Battery, Inc Corporation. Um, it's a start-up company who have claimed that they're gonna revolutionize the energy industry as we know it with these nuclear Diamond batteries.

And of course, there's nothing new here before at all. We saw this back in January when the University of Bristol and other places were all talking about hyping up these nuclear diamond battery powers. and at the time Thunderfoot did a uh, busting video on this, I'll link it in up here, and down below and at the end if you haven't seen it and he goes over the whole like all the physics behind it and the safety and the power output and everything else. There's just a ton of stuff in there, so watch that I won't recover like almost anything that he's covered in here, so I won't touch like any of the physics behind any of this because we don't need to to debunk this thing.

Yes, I know I've got a lot of tabs open up there and we might eventually get to a lot of them, but hey, I'll save you the time and effort of watching most of this video If you just want the quick skinny, you don't even need to read the article. You don't need to go to the company's website, watch any of their presentations, look at, analyze any of the other information whatsoever. You can bust this by just looking at the photo in the article Here and here it is: Ndb Inc 100 Microwatt Beta Voltaic Battery Model B 7001 Ndb Ink Usa Nuclear Diamond Battery Look, it's the size of, you know, a typical dip chip like this. Right There it is.

a hundred Micro Watts. That's the Mu symbol. micro Micro Watts. Yet somehow this could disrupt energy.

As we know it. Microwatts. You know how many applications there are for products that need micro watts of power? Yeah, not many, but these nanodiamond batteries. They'll blow energy density comparisons out of the water.

Oh, at 28 000 years without ever needing a charge though of a higher power density than Lithium ion, they'll be nigh on indestructible. Totally safe in electric car crashes, and in some applications like electric cars, they stand to be considerably cheaper than current lithium ion packs. Due to their huge advantages, A Hundred Microwatts is going to revolutionize the electric car industry. Oh, now here's the interesting thing.

I think the company slipped up because if you actually go, you search their website thoroughly. Even search the archives of their website. You can't find this image anywhere. yet it actually comes from them.

Because why why can't you find it anywhere? Please link it down below if you can, because it's actually got a number on it. A quantifiable number. 100 microwatts that gives you the power output of this, uh, beta Voltaic battery. And of course, Beta Voltaics.

And nothing new. Hundred microwatt beta voltaic batteries are nothing new. City Labs. They've been doing it for 15 years.

You can just buy, uh, commercial off the shelf. There it is. City Labs 100 micro watt Beta Voltaic battery, The model P200? No worries, nothing new here at all. or even linkin.

Are these silly Sydney labs? uh, promos down down below. So yeah, these things are a real thing. In this case, they use tritium instead of, you know, this nuclear diamond thing, which we won't even go into the physics of it. I don't care, it doesn't matter, the fact is that these are basically energy harvesting devices and we'll get into why they're claiming all this marketing.

Bs in a minute. And Beta Voltaic suitable for low power, robust applications, nanowatts through to microwatts, power verse, fire, secondary trickle charging, milliwatts to Watts, and this is where the this new Nuclear Diamond battery comes in. Look at this: a tiny nano diamond battery that's going to change the world. Hundreds of years of lifetime, safe and unbreakable.

Seven times charge size versus current phone batteries. I don't quite understand that tiny a modular can be sized to any device. it's a 14.29 times. you might think that's fall.

Oh little tiny decimal point. That little marketing trick, like whacking a tiny decimal point and putting lots of significant figures so it looks like oh, at a glance, or 14 029 times more efficient than uh, radio isotope uh generators that are used in like, deep space probes and things like that. Because uh, once you get that far out, you can't get C and can't rely on solar power. So you've got to have these, uh, nuclear generators.

It's 14.29 times more efficient you say? Well, okay, let's go to a radioisotope thermoelectric generator which they use in uh, space probes. Let's look at the uh, the plutonium version. We're talking about 0.54 watts per gram. So multiply that by 14.4 and we're talking about 7.7 watts per gram.

By that sort of metric, what efficiency means? Yeah, I don't know, but I I okay, it's 14 times better. Um, okay, so 7.7 watts per gram? Why does this just have 100 microwatts for a dip-sized chip? Marketing never adds up. So right there, right off the bat. using the company's own image for their uh, Beta Voltaic battery, here, they've put this figure in which you can't find anywhere else.

a hundred microwatts. We've got a quantifiable number we can work with, So if we take this you know chip, It's roughly. You know it's going roughly. This one's a little slightly bigger, but the volume.

Let's just go for volumetric efficiency, shall we? The volume of this thing, right? I'm going to say roughly equivalent to a Aaa battery. Okay, just work with me. 100 microwatts. That's going to be like its maximum power output.

And as as we saw we have. look, there are other ones can be commercially available for like a decade. 100 microwater Voltaic batteries, right? So let's look at a Aaa. So 100 microwatts? That is the maximum power that this thing can generate.

Sure, it can generate it for a long time. I have no doubt it does it for you know, the hundreds of years or whatever they claim. Okay, fine, I'm not going to get into the details of that, but a hundred microwatts is not capable of generating any more instantaneous power than that. Now, if we go and have a look at a Aaa a battery, a data sheet here at a one milliamp constant current draw.

So let's just call that roughly one milliwatt, right? A milliwatt is a thousand microwatts. It's already generating 10 times that, but it can go for 1400 hours at 10 times that. Now, that actually works out to a capacity in a Aaa battery at low currents like this of typically around 1.8 watt hours for an alkaline battery. Let's get out our confuser here.

Uh, 100 microwatts times 24 hours times 365 days A year is? Oh, in one year, this little uh, beta voltaic battery can produce about 0.8 Well, you know 0.87 What else? So basically their little piss and energy harvesting uh, beta voltaic battery here, whiz bang and nano carbon technology can only generate the same power as a Aaa over two years. Sure, as I said, it can do it longer, but for the same volume, it's like a triple a battery for two years. Wha? And this is going to disrupt energy? As we know it, we're going to be able to power, uh, you know, electric cars and phones and all sorts of things with this thing. No, it's it's busted right there.

All of these claims are just startup marketing wankery and this is why I guarantee you go and look through their website and nowhere on the website, even in the archives or search uh things. And mysteriously, by the way, all their app presentations, their presentation fact sheets are mysteriously missing from their website. Why? Just like this image is missing from their website, because it contains a number on it, a quantifiable number that people who, if they actually did a few basic calculations, would be able to show that this thing is never going to disrupt the energy market because it has only niche application in ultra low power devices. So yeah, you don't even have to go past the first image supplied by the company to know that everything else is just a complete hyperbole.

And by the way, nowhere on the website, nowhere on the web at all can I find any evidence of any prototype of this thing. There's no photos, there's no data, There's no output power. There's no characteristic curves. There's nothing.

Always the best we've got is this dip size chip that says 100 microwatts on it. Whoopty! Do you've been able to buy those for a decade? Look at this. It's got Graphene. Of course, it's got graphene.

Graphene's the buzzword of the decade for our startups. And uh, so it's got a 3d super capacitor to store the charge. A phone that will never run out or need to be recharged ever. Oh, read more.

Best life battery phone. I don't think I've even looked at that one yet. And look at all this marketing wank. Seriously like I.

I won't go through it all. it is just all start. Oh, we're gonna Target. You know, Augmented reality smartphones, tablets, game consoles, self-pairing cpus, virtual reality, smart watches, wearable tech.

Our target markets are all these companies and, uh, like, come on. Anyway, What we're interested in this? 1.5 volt look, 1.5 volt double a nuclear diamond battery. And they even tell you on the web page here if you care to read. the nano diamond generates and harvests electricity.

It's an energy harvesting system. When you hear energy harvesting you know it's little bitty teeny wee. Oh by the way they claim here, Uh, what makes diamond unique is that because it is an excellent charge collector near 100 efficiency, it can collect almost all of the charge generated. Meaning it's incredibly efficient.

Oh yeah, let's go over to this techcrunch article here. Um, which just came out. I couldn't find the press release for this by the way, because their press release page doesn't actually have this. but obviously Techcrunch got a press release self-charging thousand-year battery startup.

They claim that they aced their key test and lands first beta customers. Okay, they've aced their testing. You would think they'd have data in here. So these tests took place Loris Livermore National Lab and uh, the Cavendish at Cambridge and both, uh, Ndb's battery tech managed a 40 charge.

I I don't know what that means. 40 I assume that's 40. Efficiency was a big improvement over the 15 charge collection efficiency of standard commercial diamond batteries. So in their own press release here, they say no, we only achieve 40.

but in all their other marketing stuff on the page, they're happy to talk up 100, aren't they? Yeah, But look, it contains an advanced printed circuit board and a super capacitor. Ah-ha And they tell you another reason why the battery has such a wide range of applications like all the Evs and everything else they're talking about is because it has charge storage. It's got a graphene super capacitor in it. Of course it has.

if you ever need to use a lot of charge in one go, even beyond what the nano diamond is producing, the whole hundred micro watts of it, the Super Capacitor is there to make that possible. Oh, Graphene, It won the Nobel prize in 2010, so it must be good. And it's these Super capacitors. Absolutely fantastic.

Well, let's take a look at their Double A battery, Shall we? Ndb Double A? Here we go. We've got a wanky video made from recycled nuclear waste made using Nano technology. Sorry, that's that's. a bit hard to read, isn't it? I don't know what they mean by this.

In one hour, it's a a hundred percent efficient. Once again, they're assuming that 100 efficient is holding three and a half times more charge than a regular double A. It's 53 percent smaller. identical in weight.

what for a hundred microamp source? Anyway, here we go. Look, you can get different voltage outputs and this is where their Super capacitor and their uh, energy harvest in chip, right? Their energy harvesting boost converter here. Oh look at that. I love the little of the way that the caps like the surface mountain components with actually through whole pins on them.

Anyway, Wow, so it's a Nano, so it's a like the hundred microwatt energy source because that's all you'd fit in based on their own photo. fits in the bottom of that double A. and then they've got a tiny little super capacitor at the top top so it can. Yeah, Look, I don't dispute they can.

Actually, you know they could probably make this right. I'm not going to dispute that at all. And it'll like. Okay, it'll be a double layer that lasts forever, but the fact is, it's a one.

based on their own photo of that hundred microwatt source. That's about the volume that you'd fit in the bottom of the double A. You know, a couple hundred microwatts tops. Even if they can do it in the cylindrical uh form factor, let's just assume that they can, then that's your energy source.

A couple of hundred microwatts maximum. How long does that take to charge a supercap to give a standard double A output capacity? Okay, let's go to a double A battery here. Five milliwatts, 900 hours. We're talking about four and a half watt hours in a double A a standard size double A battery.

So that's what it's got to. Uh, emulate. So four and a half watt hours divided by, let's be generous and say, 200 micro watt. Uh, you know, 200 microwatt generation? Ah, 22 500 hours.

So your whiz-bang double-a here is self-charge to sell. Let's say it comes from the factory. It's pre-charged it's self-charged and you used up your double A. Uh, capacity.

You used up your four and a half watt hours. You pissed it away in a day or two, and you want your battery to recharge itself from the built-in 200 microwatt source? Then yeah, you're gonna have to wait 22 000 hours for this thing to self recharge. It's ridiculous. The reason that they're claiming all of these ridiculous claims is because presumably you'll be able to recharge the double A battery or the 18650 cell or whatever it is, that you'll be able to recharge this like a normal rechargeable battery.

It's no different to any other rechargeable battery technology, but in this case it's a graphene super capacitor. The fact that it has this nuclear diamond battery in it? This little piss weak couple hundred microwatt nuclear diamond battery. whoop-de-do It'll recharge in 22 000 hours. Wow.

This is going to revolutionize the entire energy industry. Absolutely. So all these claims down here, it'll be able to produce three and a half times more charge than the entire content of a typical disposable double A battery every hour. That is absolute based on their own look.

100 microwatts source it like they just run the numbers. A smartphone in just one hour. A 100 efficient. and even if they can get 100 efficiency which their their own press release says that they're only getting like 40, will be able to produce seven times more charge than the entire content of a typical smartphone battery every hour.

their own marketing image disproves their own numbers. No wonder they don't want to show that anywhere on their website or put any technical information whatsoever on their website. Go search through the whole thing. It's a very extensive website.

I've I've used Google to search like, specifically, target the site itself, trying to find presentations that have any resemblance of data in it whatsoever that shows you the power output from their uh, beta voltaic battery and a nuclear diamond battery. You know it's a bit of voltaic, whatever. and it's just not there because they don't want to tell you the real numbers. They just want to do like page after page of marketing.

It's just our product competition. It's just like here. It is, right. This is why they'll only ever talk about energy density.

Like I have no doubt that it's 4 000 times more energy dense than gasoline. it's 56 000 times more energy dense. And electrochemical batteries like 18? 650. Yes, it may be because you use a tiny amount of you you know, your diamond or whatever can with your radiation can.

Yeah, they're very dense, yes, but you can't get it out. Their own photo here. 100 microwatts. I keep going back to it.

They've slipped up. They've released a number there. They've told you what this thing can actually produce in that sort of volume. 100 microwatts.

Just like the other beta voltaic batteries that we've seen here. So yeah, all their marketing is just going to be based on. oh, energy density, energy density. And they can prove it.

And they're right, right? I'm not even going to dispute that. Okay, I haven't double checked, but hey, let's just run with that, right? It's it's 56 000 times more energy dense than lithium ion batteries. Okay, and it's 16 times. Here we go 16 times more efficient than a typical beta voltaic.

Okay, so if it's 16 times more efficient, why does the leading one on the market the 100 microwatt beta voltaic from City Labs? The Model Pn200? Let's just call it roughly the same size as their one here. 100 microwatts? They're both exactly the same number in, you know, roughly the same package. Where's the 16 times? But even if it was 16 times, let's take that 22 500 hours again and divide that by 16.. Oh, the double A battery is only going to take 1400 hours to recharge itself? Yeah, great.

And then they've got this timeline. It'll be implemented in five phases. Phase One is the opportunity will be identified, a business plan will be composed around the initial idea, and this company hasn't been going that long, so I think they're still on phase model. Phase Two: We'll develop that idea by scientifically and business strategically by establishing the structure of the company that will develop the idea into a product sourcing.

Funding develops initial. Yeah, that's what they're doing. They're looking to fund this thing. They've got nothing to show.

There are no prototype photos whatsoever. There's no data at all because if this stuff really existed, they'd be published in the data and they'd be money would be pouring in. But it's not. It's just your typical energy startup who just have to market in terms of oh, it's x, amount, thousand times more energy dense and all that sort of stuff.

They don't get into the practicalities that this is an energy harvesting device. Phase three will outline the end of 18 month period. A formal review will be carried out to evaluate the process. After 18 months, Phase 4 will then further develop into a prototype.

They'll finally get to a prototype by phase four. Where's the photo of their prototype? They know when it just doesn't exist. Then they'll finalize the details and launch the product through feedback from beta testers. Oh Wonderful Nano Diamond Battery Organization was only founded February 4th, 2019.

So it's been going for a year. No prototypes. What's although they claim to have actually tested something at those labs as I as you saw and it got 40 percent efficiency. There's no power output stuff whatsoever.

so yeah, they're just like they're nowhere. And that's all their recent news. There it is the Techcrunch article and this and that new Atlas article that's generating all the hype. And here's an article here.

Just released their two proof of concepts and once again, yet they're saying like, uh, 40 charge 15 and it's more than the 15 charge collection of, uh, previous ones or something like that, but like there's nothing else, there's nothing else. Seriously, please. if you can find any data at all on this thing, link it in down below. And then they talk about device fabrication.

Just go through the website. It's got everything. everything you could possibly want except any actual data and you can look at the design of it and everything look they actually talk about. Yeah, it harvests, harvest electrons basically and look, the maximum amount of electrons it can harvest 11 400 electrons the mean 3600 electrons.

It doesn't say what actual uh, you know size cell actually does that. but anyway, it get the ideal device. The ideal one could produce up to a thousand electrons per decay with an average of blue electrons. So they don't actually say.

but once again, go back to that photo. 100 microwatts for a dip size chip. And of course, the exact amount of current that it could yield depends heavily on variables such as device design, diamond purity, crystallinity, and size. So yeah, they don't tell you there's no numbers anywhere.

But once again, their own publicity photo a hundred microwatts in a dip size package. They've even got a product number for that. You can't find that products, just the dip product is just mysteriously vanished because well, you don't want people to know that it's just a piece. And you know, a beta voltaic generator just like you've been able to buy for the last decade.

But hey, we've whacked a Graphene super capacitor on it. and we've got a fantastic marketing website. and, well, the money's just going to flow in. Oh yeah, and if you want to feel for how many electrons we're talking about here, 3 600 electrons per second, One amp, one amp of current.

you know, imagine like an Ev and how many amps it require. Anyway, one amp of current right is like 6 times 10 to the 18. 10 to the power of 18 electrons per second. This thing one junction can generate 3 600..

Then they talk about like capturing the function of the distance and things like that that you know, depth and stuff like that. So they're talking about their got some thin film technology and stuff have a large surface area to extract the current from and they can fine tune the thickness of the diamond layer such that the energetic electron will generate. Most of the electrons near the collector's surface can optimize the device output. Once again, they won't tell you there's nothing.

All we got to work from is the hundred microwatts and down here like they talk about conceptual diagram of a nano battery like these prototypes don't exist. They're talking about a titanium charge collector because they talk up the advantages of titanium over gold and stuff like boron doped omic interface and I like like who cares without the actual data it's all just useless marketing waffle. But they actually admit here Ndb is an emerging Nano battery technology. This is due to the challenges in its execution of the design.

Nano Battery is a direct product of cutting-edge nanotechnology where atomic material manipulation is crucial. A crucial they need. Atomic material manipulation is crucial to generate their 100 micro volt dips 100 microwatt dip size battery. They need experts to design and build It Have too thick a layer of diamond, the electrons release will recombine, become lost in the diamond, have too thinner layer and there's not enough diamond to release the electrons efficiency efficiently.

I mean, come on, this is just all pine the sky stuff. Yes, it works. as always, these things work in quote marks. And yes, they might be 10 50 000 times more energy dense than Lithium ion or some other you know, battery technology.

But 100 microwatts in a package like hundreds like thousands of hours to recharge a double A or Aaa battery? No, it's not going to revolutionize anything. It's just all automotive consumer in anything space, electronics, medical, aviation. It's just. no.

these things are. there are. They're no different. Effectively, no different to existing beta voltaic batteries that you've been able to buy commercially for a decade.

By the way, I think the going rate for one of these was like, you know, a couple of thousand dollars for one of these chips. Which is great if you have a very specific niche need for a super long-term battery. Um, these are tritium-based ones. These don't supposedly don't last as long as these.

you know, whiz-bang diamond ones even though they haven't even got prototypes of the diamond ones yet, these are like, you know, 40 years or uh, something like that. but still, you know. Great for really niche applications, but that's where it's going to remain. Niche applications.

It's not going to disrupt energy. Anyone who invests money in this thing or spreads this thinking that it's going to change the world. and oh, we're going to have nuclear diamond batteries in our Evs is just. no.

it's crap. Look 100 microwatts. It's done. It's dusted.

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