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Thank you very much Eric Stoner and hi to all my viewers in Switzerland Okay, let's check it out. Keen-eyed viewers will know I actually had this one in a previous mailbag sitting in this on the side or something and I never actually got around to open the note. So you have a note, don't a split for myself? Oh dear. Oh no no no, we've looked at this before.

this guy and I we looked at this. Oh no, it's slightly different. No, we looked at the USB You won't What? It's a mess. What? It's a 10 watt soldiering iron and it's got a controller that looks like a mouse.

What the heck? It's got a final sticker on the back. That's bizarre. Let's check it out. What fresh hell have we entered here? He heat it up, him heat it up in five seconds.

Chinglish Right off the bat, Juror Tool mini soldering station made in China Yes, that looks like a mouse with a temperature wheel on it. one of those weird-ass pommy plugs and it's sold by Far Nails slash Element14 I Still call them Far Nails. Good on ya. Unbelievable What? I Was looking for a new soldering iron for electronics Levin Came across this strange device.

Who would have ever think to use a mouse as a chassis for a soldering iron? And the fact that they sell it on Far Nails is beyond us. Furthermore, please be careful because it's not electrically safe. We connected to try it out and does indeed work. My problem is that between the little button you're supposed to press to start and peer, we can measure 85 volts Ac.

that would be leakage in a filter cap I would assume. I Also get some slight fumes when the hold in my hand that little bubbly. I Thank you very much Eric Peter and Lars Let's check it out. The unitary of soldering iron, tip, and heating element.

Okay, Wow that is actually designed to look like a mouse. Can you believe it? Oh wow, who's ridiculous idea was that? And look at that just like 500 degrees. There you go. There's a little arrow in there, so 500 anywhere from low.

Don't know what? Louis But oh wow. That's obviously some sort of trimmer in there and you can see the switch mode in there. You see the isolation trainee. Oh goodness, so that looks and feels exactly like that crappy USB thing that we tried out and that was go look at the tip.

The humanity. No, no, please, no, please don't let this be real please. And of course we've got ourselves some little 3.5 ml terrorist plugs here and that just goes in there. Like why? why would it? no? Why would anyone buy this I Refused to give this thing validation so I'm not gonna actually solder with this thing.

Let's just take it apart, shall we? Oops, My balls just dropped they yeah. Okay, so that was. yep, that was designed it. This was the contact.

So they used this little ball as the contact and that spring to hold it in place. Oh my God. Dry as a dead dingoes. Donna Oh Dry as a bone? Look at that.

Fantastic. Anyway, there's nothing in here. They've just got the two connections for the heater element which just bugger off down here and a lid. and that's all she wrote.
So obviously our three connections on there, the two heating elements and ones ground, ones positive heating element and the other would be the sensor up here. and the LEDs just probably across the heater element. Bloody. Try wing screws.

Are you kidding me? Time to get Medieval on its ass. Yep. just had to have that inside a mouse case, didn't ya? Unbelievable. What was the design pitch meeting for this thing? All the load of rubbish.

Anyway, we've got our mains switch mode here and secondary. of course it's got opto, a couple of feedback and there's our primary to secondary filter cap there and that's maybe what's causing the tingling that was reported. Perhaps it's not, necessarily. unless they've got grilled, baked clear and so under here and it's something else.

or there's something wrong with the training or something like that. Anyway, yeah, Mains input over here that they've got a cord clamp here and soldered directly on. Looks like it is actually fused but full wave bridge going into a no-name our four hundred volt job' down here and we got just a another little inductor for some filtering and goes into another mains job' and I couldn't be bothered caring about what the switch mode controller is here. secondary side.

another no-name job down there thousand mike. so nothing fancy there at all. It does stew in primary side regulation. I don't think there's any secondary side regulation there at all.

Nope. Adequate clearances and things like that, so it's not too shabby. I've got a couple of little cutouts in there even so. and they got bleed resistors over here, so it's sure it's built down to a price, but you know nothing inherently wrong with that.

And then there's our output board. and there's our selection wheel. Geez, it's not even held on the other side there. That's a bit how you're doing.

And yep, as I suspected, this just a pot there. Turn that around and there she goes. That'd just be adjusting the pulse width modulation. That's what this flapping around in the breeze here is.

no worries about that because there's no mass in that. Not that this thing's ever going to vibrate and then we're just going to have a PWM controller. I Suspect, huh? It's a triple five timer for the wind. All the triple time of fanboys go wild.

Whoa. But it gets better. There's not one, but two triple five timers. There's another one under there.

Unbelievable. So I suspect that one of them is being used for the touch sensor timer thing. Oh for the auto, our time out and the other one is of course are controlling the pulse width modulation. So there you go.

That's absolutely hilarious. It's just a primary side. our DC cheap-ass DC Er converter and then a triple five time and a tractor with modulate this thing. Ah, Fantastic.
Come on. I Mean really? But yeah, how much does this thing cost really built down to a price? I mean just no, no, no, no, No. for the price of one of these, perhaps even less considering that you're buying it from far Nils You could get one of those a ripoff hako nine to six stations and just put some real heyco tips on there. and like that's gonna be like a fine proper temperature controlled soldering station and felt like I've done a video on that like under 20 bucks.

It's just. ah, why would you buy this little piddly 10 watt turd with these dinky little tips? I Don't get it. I'm I'm not even gonna waste my time powering this damn thing up. Ah, anyway, thanks for sitting there.

That's hilarious. Oh oh I didn't see this. Hang on. It's the magic soldering pin.

Well, the specs I mean come on. Anyway, if you leave it unused for fifteen seconds, it's got a power backup. That's that Triple Five timer in action over here. So just don't just don't buy these stupid little cheap solder ons if you want cheap.

Fine, There are cheap proper soldering station solutions like the Hakko Nine, Three, Six, Ripoff, and and whatever like this. just I mean I Kind of saw a nice use for the previous. like USB powered 5 volt version of this, which isn't that which was an absolutely identical thing, like physically identical pen, but this one with its mains controller. it's it's just stupid.

Alright, as for the insulation resistance here: I Thought we'd just get out the mega and we don't test it at various cell voltages. What I've got is I'm going to go between tests between the grounded output terminal and both of the mains input terminals. So yeah, let's give that a bell. we've got our test.

I've only got done 50 volts at the moment, but there you go. 11 gig, 10 gig. That's good. Let's ramp it up.

Let's go to 256 gig, go all the way to a thousand volts, shall we? There we go. Seven gig. It's still good. And there you go.

That's between active and the output ground. So you know 11 12 gig climbing. So there's nothing wrong with the isolation in the transformer or the cap there. It's doing fine.

And of course that's going to because it's the ground here. that's going to include the sensor terminal as well. So yeah, just some residual capacitance. Very similar to what you'd get in.

Like, you know, a little tingle that you feel in like the RCA jack of a double insulated audio like amplifier or something like that. and very common. It's just a bit of capacitance. nothing to worry about.

I Already opened this one up because they didn't put my old bag on it anyway. thank you very much - Snap Tron Ah, you might know the name if you watch my keep a video and you should video on how to design your own keypad. and they saw the video and they liked it and they said hey I can't stand having you have all those old domes. my older dome snapped Rondon Kit Anyway, if you don't know, um snap Tron are pretty much the world's I Think they are the world's number one in tactile dome stuff.
That's pretty much all they do and so they couldn't stand that. I Had some old um domes and they sent me a new kit. Oh Metal Ah, that's a nice card. That's a really nice card.

Look, it's got the little tactile domes taped on there. Pornographic. This is gonna get demonetized. Well check this out.

This is about as specific a bit of teske as you'll ever find. This is done by Snap John It's called the Sapphire and it's a tactile dome displacement tester that actually no its sole job is to test the tactile responsive domes and you saw this in the previous video. this might be a typical tactile response as then it you know it snaps and does the various force to push it down and then the force to release it and then the you know, the trip point and all that sort of jazz. So yeah, I guess you can buy this if you're really serious about you tactile domes.

Absolutely fantastic. They probably originally developed this in-house and then I would guess off we can sell that. Yeah, why not? Apparently there is some standard F 2592 for those playing along at home measures a trip force, return force, free hype displays, and tactile activation, slope and resistance. and you thought these little tactile days we just go snap, snap and that's it.

There's a lot more art to it anyway. designed and made in the United States of America There you go and it can measure the the resistance of this tactile dime. Although that's going to depend because usually it's just the dome, so the resistance of it actually depends upon the contact into the surface, the material, and all sorts of other stuff that you're using it from. But I'll add pretty jazzy specs there.

Very impressed. Well I thought you'd do that like as a Pc-based thing you know. rather than just like design all the user interface and all that sort of stuff, you just have the the box and the sensors coming out and they'd go into a little USB dude out or something. But anyway, I assume you can output the data and things like that as jazzy.

That's probably how they get their responses for their data sheets and this design guide here is actually really amazing. I Hope this is available as a PDF I'll check if it is I'll include it down below. Highly recommend you check it out or contact us Natron if you want to get one, but it goes into not only all sorts of specs and things, all the different technologies. how do I do of course, how to order their part, numbers and things like that.

but all the characteristics don't stack in there you go. I Don't think I've ever seen that before where you actually get a dome and you, well, you stack one dome on top of the other. You sort of have two rotational offset of course because they usually are full liter like that. but then you can rotate them around and stack them and apparently that can now increase the force the trip force without affecting life.
So if you want a really stiff one, then you've always want a stiff one, then you have to like just stack them like that. Well, didn't know about that intact. I'll ratio release fourth trip force force displacement curve which is what we were looking at before and then they'll go into. there's all the various four smacks.

Of course, probe motion stops when it actually bottoms out and things like that. You know what that is that looks impressive. Hmm. Anyway, these are the different middle doumitt types in PCB Pads Battery contact Domes neat gold-plated nickel, gold, or custom and then all your methods are placing your metal.

Don'ts We'll have a look at these art, peel and place arrays in a minute. they actually sense some of those and automated placement machine. They'll sell you all these automated place machines and machines, vacuum pens, pocket pocket reels, and all sorts of stuff. Look at that.

look at that bad boy. Wow I'm sure they'll show you one of those and for a pretty penny. But if you're serious about this sort of stuff, if you you know some in manufacturing some fruity gadget or something, then you're going to take this seriously. And you know, plan for serious bits of production.

Kit like that is is absolutely nothing but. Anyway, absolutely fantastic metal tone, so hidden. They can do a custom peel in place. that's what I'll show you in a sec and yet we have some examples of those.

But anyway, this design guide is absolutely fantastic. So hopefully I can design in a fixed upper artists and things like that little jigs to do it Absolutely. Brewin Recommended PCB Patterns you would vary from these recommended are patterns at your peril. I Would suggest.

although they're not, they're fairly tolerant. Like you know, you don't have to be absolutely exact, but you wouldn't want it. You know, if you're using their particular day, use their recommended footprint. You really wouldn't dick around with anything else unless you had absolutely something very specific.

And here You go. Here's an example of these: peeled. Get them in a basic array like that or you can get them custom laser cut to your particular arrangement and product that you just Steve peel it off and then stick it on and then. Bingo.

Job done. There's a specific shape product there, another one have little custom cutouts and all sorts of stuff. Really neat and these are just various types of sample tactile domes that you saw in the previous video as well. All different shapes and sizes.

Look at those. Well, now we're getting in some bad boys. Well let me have a feel. Oh geez, that requires some force.

Yes, 700 grams. Wow, this is 900? Ah, yep. Wow But hey, you know you often have a need so this is you know. Neera Car 1200 1.2 kilos I Can't even get my finger in that it's not even gonna snow.
Ah, that does snap, but that requires one point two kilos of trip force. Wow, that's insane. I Can't do that with my finger? Really? that's that's incredible. Sure, there's an issue so that 900 is bad enough.

Well look at their life cycle testing machine. Oh just like 12 these at once and just you leave it in the corner of the lab. just going. going at it all day.

Wiggle wiggle Wiggle. Yeah. Fantastic. 3 to 12 cycles Wow 3 to 12 cycles per test and per second? Read: Crunch the numbers on that and you know how long is it going to take to run? You're a couple of million cycles.

Oh man, that'd be so satisfying to use. You load all your domes into here, then just go. Plonk plonk clonk cloth had to be she. She could do that all day.

You tactile dome aficionados I Just get a stiffy over this pun intended. this is just like. that's insane. Oh, that was that.

One's only got like three itches of three inches on it. with it. it's kind of chopped off. It's a bit weird.

Jool action there Sent a little demo board and you can get ones with holes in the middle so that then you can put the cover over the top and then you can like just see your lids through there. That is great. I Like that. Look at this.

This is going to get this video. d Monetize that's for sure. Oh look at that ah thing of beauty. Joy.

Forever beautiful. These are all the different. No. 85 grams.

Jeez, that's a light sucker. Six millimeters Wow and you go I Got all the different types. what's over here? four millimeters that's super tiny. So if I was going to go back to my micro watch, yeah, it's always on the cards.

Might do it one day. But yeah, little four millimeter tactile dome that's incredible. 200 grams at four millimeters Wow and looks like I've got oh it's a it's a little pointer II thing I Got various pads for different sized domes and stuff that's interesting and that's it's. got to make that in the end.

So I can pick up the domes and place them. is that is that the deal? Anyway, as a backup I can use that, extend it out, pick up the trots. look at the size of that bad boy. Oh well, that's hugely satisfying.

It's not gonna snap back because the surface isn't great and it's covered in the plastic. but oh wow, wish this was feel a vision. so thank you very much Snap! Tron For Sandy, it's the incredibly impressive kit. so I'm sure if you're a big enough customer, I'll probably send you these sample kits if you're serious.

and all the extra rod design guide and stuff like that I'll try and link that in down below. it's absolutely fantastic now. I'm off to go sit in the corner and just have a fondle. Not that one.

which one was your favorite? F 147 Double-o She's working from the Eevblog lab today. Yes, yes, beakers. there's no electricity. Whoops boy! Thank you very much.
Tobias Birds Limb if I'm pronouncing that correctly and hard all my viewers in. Switzerland Um, this one sounds interesting. It's not a spoiler alert I Don't think it contains two snowflakes. Too many bloody snowflakes in the world today, that's for sure.

So what sort of snowflake is it like? we've got like Christmas snowflakes? Oh yes. I still have that snowflake thing from last time there? It is. Is it? Again, it is. It's another snowflake decoration.

There you go it. but it's not the same I Don't think it's the same. Geez, that's a fancy pantsy box made in the old dot wide it comes from Switzerland it's made in the old time hi Dave There is no snow in Australia Well, actually there is. We're a very a dry, barren continent.

We have a couple of ski fields in Australia in the snowy mountains our region, for example. and it does actually snow in the Blue Mountains up here, just outside, just west of Sydney and maybe once every couple of years. or once or twice every couple of years, we'll get a little decent snowfall up there if we're lucky. So although with the global warming and especially Australia just getting hotter, so I think we just had the two hottest years on record or something.

But anyway, it did snow. um, last winter up there. and when the conditions are right, oh, we've got a kid. Oh well.

okay. I see your quad flat-pack I See a why is it Is it? Street Now that's like steel cable or sometimes a string of steel cable. Oh Anyway, look at that bear board that looks pretty jazzy. damn it.

Wow from Euro Circuits is where the boards from So wise comes from the old diet though. So I send you a snowflake winter decoration. The small company you know this decoration of none of this dull and boring. LED Blinking boards you find everywhere awesome.

A non linear PCM provides a wide dynamic range of brightness levels for each letter and there is communication between all boards to synchronize the played patterns. Oh what? So you break them out because these are these got mouth bytes on them so you cut them out. So I've got five different snowflakes and they they communicate. Oh really, what virus is some sort of, you know, um, little bluetooth? a short-range or some sort of, you know, a short-range RF like an ant or something like that.

Cool. It's one of these original snowflake kits which is tough soldering challenges in nineteen tiny oh four, oh two? LEDs Why? Why'd you have to use Oh 402 leads and are they on yet? they're on the other side. Okay, good. so circuitry on one side and LEDs on the other side? No idea after that.

So 402s Vast amount of details on the project website. Open source hardware and software. thank you very much. Tobias aka Lucky Resistor What value is a Lucky Resistor 555? Ohms Turns out this looks like an older version because they have also supplied this one which looks a much up to date a project by Lucky Resistor.
Lucky Resistor dot me for those playing along at home supported by microchip so maybe they provided some of the provided the micros or something made in the UK by P Maroney Calm and there's a little USB power board there. It is all the open source github Z a type stuff. and today we have some assembled snowflakes. but what? what? What why here? I Was thinking that they communicate in terms of like wirelessly.

No, they don't. It's not connectors on there for a reason and they're all in a big string by the looks of it. That's a bit odd. What do you want Mark to version? Maybe hate these ribbon cables? They're real fiddly little bastards.

These little tiny wire like little four-way jobbies. Ah, now just a trap for young players here. I Noticed I've actually done a video on doing penalisation and adding test support to your pen on this particular case like a wide. I'm all up.

Let's say that you wanted to actually test these things on the panel. and of course you've got your little USB board over here. Unfortunately, the connector doesn't go in because the yes, it's not right on the edge like that. So or just maybe you can bend it anyway.

but you can hopefully see where you could come. a guts are there in terms of like just being able to test it. So anyway, oh there we go. Look Oh Aren't they pretty? Oh they're so pretty.

Oh look at that. Yeah, look at it. Cycle through. That's really quite good.

Yeah I like that. So this one's obviously the first in the string and then you go across like that. That's really nice now. I Must say we've probably hit peak market saturation for Led snowflakes.

like as in Led snowflake. we say Led here. Whatever. Anyway LED snowflakes he mark an opportunity left I think is for as I said all look at that pretty pattern as I said is the wireless thing where these yeah, you don't have to have these dag you little why is going between I'm sure you know you may not see these.

be better if these what I don't know black or something. Perhaps you may not see those on your tree or whatever. you could just hide them away. but yeah, I'm not sure how long you make this string by the way.

anyway. um whoa, hello, they're all gone. Oh, that might be my plug pack if it doesn't. If it doesn't have a high enough load it Yeah, there we go.

doesn't have a high enough load, then it will Auto switch off I guess these LEDs aren't high enough load for it. So anyway, yeah I reckon I'm like wireless ones. Each one's powered by like a little coin cell and you've got little micro power RF type thing and you can like synchronize them all together or something like that. That'd be very cool.
Each one like has like maybe a little mini dip switch that you can like number each one perhaps. and anyway, that's probably the only market segment left. but from that I think it's saturated. Anyway, that's very cool if you want one of these.

I'll link it in down below. obviously. I'm not going to be able to build up the a kit for this video, but maybe that will be. yeah, you know, a rainy day kit build video.

So yeah, that's that's rather cool. And the effects on this are really quite nice. One of the best I've seen. Very impressive.

link down below: I Know my viewers in Melbourne and Germany what all my viewers in Germany especially Mary's ship. thank you very much. from Deutschland there's no description I Dive in, teach. there you go vintage Wow You know I Like vintage vintage fanboy if it's eighties, even better.

nothing wrong. 70s, you know. speak in a venti chai I Just posted Hyundai post yesterday or something on Twitter You gotta follow me to Twitter that's where I post all the best stuff anyway. I posted my image of the old Sony from the 1980s.

the Sony What is it? Is it? The APM of the square speaker cones. Yes, square flat speaker cones. There were all the rage back in the 80s and does anyone still use those anyway? Vintage Wow What? Oh no way. that's it.

Neither can't be a scope. Well, no, no What? This is the most bizarre looking thing I've ever seen. Look at this. Channel 1, Channel 2.

Channel 3. What? heck is that? What? What are these things on the side? Dude, this is hilarious obviously. I'm all they're all they this. election.

switches. Oh they beat some selection. Switches are in sliders. Oh oh that changes the mode and whatnot.

Oh well. well. is this a portable scope? This is gonna fold out but I gotta break it apparently I've taken the whole thing off. Oh well.

Create Ik yeah it's it's a scope. Wow That is the most bizarre scope I've ever seen in portable scope I've ever seen in my life. That is incredible. What if it still works the SCO one buttons? That's very like late eighties early nineties perhaps? Unfortunately, a manual is German This model was produced in Germany around the early 90s.

There you go. I called it I said to be closer. identical to the Tektronix T 201. Never heard of the Tektronix T 201.

Wow we have to put up a photo if I can find one. Um, thank you very much Mario He found it in the dumpster and since I don't have any use for I want to donate to the mailbag. You played around with it for some time. Seems to work perfectly.

we know. Winner chicken dinner. Oh thank you very much for sharing this. Mario This is just an amazing portable scope.

Wow even if it didn't work just looking at Panzer Hands up if you had one of these puppies. well in three Chicano sorry of the Channel One channel to an external trig beauty. Thank you very much. Mario's is absolutely fascinating I Have never seen this before.
The Crea tech critic yes, sorry about the the light and the glare on this thing is just. it's not. It's not really conducive to studio lighting here, but anyway, it's a portable oscilloscope dating from the early night, isn't sure. Tektronix I Checked.

They did actually rebadge this as the T S, the T 201, and also the T 202. Now the difference is, the T 202 has a more user-friendly more traditional style interface, whereas this one is very calculator like interface. In fact, look at dummy if you didn't If I didn't show you the top of this, you would go What? What Is that? Some sort of weird-ass calculate? You know what is that? But yeah, check this out. These buttons on the side.

do the slide like that. That's the volts per division for Channel 2 and then we've got off. So channel off the DC ground and AC and the same over here for Channel 1 and external trigger as well. This would have been groundbreaking in a late 80s Early 90s.

Absolutely no wonder Tektronix went orgies we couldn't then take a long time for us to develop that. will just rebadge that. Thank you very much. Tektronix Famous for making their all their own scopes back then and but this one, they went.

Huh? No, this. this German mob. Wow. this is fantastic.

We'll just rebadge that. Hands up. if you're had probably not. I know I Do have a large contingent of German viewers.

It's like my fourth largest contingent worldwide or something. Lots of viewers in Germany So I don't want my German viewers yet again Oh 1976 serial number mating Germany Ah anyway I'm a six megahertz bandwidth apparently max sample rate 20 megahertz. So yeah, you know it's getting a bit how you're doing it 6 Meg but this would have been really handy so leave it in the comments down below if you had one of these or more likely the Tektronix equivalent. how long did it last on the market? Was it that? I Was it usable? Was it? when was it surpassed? When was the next like usable portable scope did the like That woman's the Fluke scope meter released I don't know but hmm Wow Interesting form factor.

Oh yeah. I got some weird ass plug. look at that puppy this thing up. it doesn't look like it.

it's it's battery. Is it no? I think it did have batteries. Maybe it's rechargeable I Love this bit. The manual has an entire paragraph dedicated to the novelty of their semantic input system, asking the user the police take time to thoroughly learn how to type commands as it will eventually feel completely natural.

and I guess it was a dismal failure, which is why they developed at the next version, the T2o - well for Tektronix Anyway, maybe or Tektronix customers complained and they just redesigned it for a more user-friendly oscilloscope experience. It's actually a signal computer hence I guess the typing in the commands and things like that. so maybe they the original designers didn't So I can't read German Sure, all my German viewers can they? maybe they actually had a different usage scenario in mind for this thing that I don't know where to be scripted and you can type commands into it and you can solve. You know you can do integration or something on it and you can type in your formulas, but when people just want a portable scope I guess so.
pair it up. it's a tad dangerous. Don't try this at home. I powered it up to 20 volts and well I did see the screen flicker but is that oh yeah, there we go.

Oh we're in. look yes, sorry this LCD is absolutely atrocious. Be much luck here at all. But anyway I fit in a signal and by the way, if you said both of these off, that actually turns the power off.

So if you set one or the other on, look I soon that flashing light, there is a trigger. Let me disconnect my input signal. Nope, Nope. still triggering.

So I'm feeding in a 1 megahertz I'm over I'm getting nothing so obviously it's not updating. Hmm god I've entered I Just pressed the clear clear all button and it's just like switched off. like what the what? I Don't get it. now it's switched back on.

Oh, this thing is just. it's a two ninety nine point zero milliseconds per division. Where's the divisions? I It's the critical. This thing is just atrocious.

I mean what are you supposed to make of this? like milli micro nano? It's got calculator buttons. It's like a hate mean Second Auto Auto I'm gonna press Auto Notes: Beeping at me Doesn't like auto. Oh wow. like this is just ridiculous.

Trigger trigger doesn't do anything. There's nothing on the screen I swear it just sounds like a frog that's either a fog or a cricket. I'm not sure and it can't fit on the screen properly either. Bloody, it's good.

Maybe should vertical video and go on tick-tock announcing the Eevblog Tick-tock Channel Yes. Anyway, um I like I Seriously? I've got no idea what I'm doing in the manuals in German No this is the most interface in history. If you know of anything worse, please leave it in the comments like I I can't get this thing to do anything. It's actually not entering any modes at all on where.

DC DC Coupling Auto: Just it. Just frogs at me. Just guys cricket cricket minutes seconds I equals volts One aunty, Well there you go. It does actually work I'm silly me.

Had the the rain switch to the wrong setting and oh it's slow so oh look at that. that's a bit dodgy brothers. There you go. but get are the indenting on.

this is not nice at all. it's it's really it's almost not indented. This other side here feels a bit I think this has lost some of its a little plastic indented goodness. So there you go.

It works. It can't like change. the time-base may have ever pressed micro like I'm pressing micro milli all sorts of stuff and I just can't get it to do anything. it's just it's so stupid.
Maybe this is where I'm gonna type in o0 the numbers that made do I have to type in the commands or whatever I did. That's just dumb. No wonder they replace this model. Quick smart.

The world's worst oscilloscope it has to be. Please leave it in the comments down below if you know of anything worse than this. Oh my God. that user in oh sorry, you can't see this I'm pretty sure you can't I can't see the screen on the camcorder here, but it's better in real life.

but maybe it's I don't know. but yeah anyway, yeah, are they see LCD Oh I think have I got a yeah I've got a polarizing filter. It's not a polarizing filter, but it's kind of working like one, isn't it? No, Oh there we go. Okay anyway, that is terrible.

Muriel Wow That is absolutely shocking. It probably deserves more than a two minute teardown, so definitely do those. the second video. This means mayo bags going to be long enough anyway.

So yeah, it'll definitely be interesting to take this sucker apart. So thank you very much. Mario for sending that in. That is absolutely brilliant.

Hands up, if you have one of these puppies, probably not for long before you realize how frustrating it was. Oh thank you very much. James Bowman from Pescadero in California Anyway I don't want my California and viewers hope you can afford your housing over there. Shouldn't talk I'm in Sydney Anyway, my slippers dropped like 18 20 percent in the last year or so.

Anyway, this is a specific bit of kit judging by the specific bit of test kit, which is always interesting. Oh, that's jazzy. It's jazzy. Oh yeah, see I was going to do something like this I was probably I'm not gonna say the exact project to this, but probably pretty close to this I was gonna do this Oh 15 years ago now.

probably anyway I thought it'd be really cool cuz what? I haven't told you what it is yet anyway I'll tell you the story is um I thought I cuz I was doing lots of um I squared C buss stuff back then and like these days like okay, like I squared C Debugging in, you know you cheap ask Logic analyzer A built into your scope. no worries, right? But back then it was showing. It's like not that easy or cheap to do so I Thought it'd be like real handy if you could just have a little board like this with a little display I think mine was going to use an LCD that basically just plugged into the I Squared C bus in a product in particular for I. Oh yeah, God could have been Twitter was it 20 years ago now? Anyway, I'm I Squared C is I squared C into IC Communications developed by Phillips for use in their TVs and other products.

So I Squids TVs are filled with various I squared C like video type chips all hooked up together and you could plug this on the I Squared C bus. And you can like diagnose things and things like that so you know I had that idea for a kick. Remember how far I got? But anyway, focus, you bastard. there you go.
Isn't that cute? It's a little board, tiny micro on its own daughter board and a just a little a to separate to segment display to show the address and the data of your I Squared C Um, so I presume that's what it is. Not sure I Squid C driver but sure that is. But yeah, let's check it out. It's the I Squared C Drive It's small USB to I Squared C interface with a nice visual display.

Here's a cute I Squared C gadget in there too. Alright, um I Squared I to see Driver One word.com my excellent domain name and James's from our X camera labs you see doesn't like cameras anymore, so he's from the X camera lab. Anyway, cool. A little specific bit of kiss: I Don't think that's that I think this is just to display I Don't think this is an analyzer.

It's just so it's an I Squared C driver so it just allows you to convert your PC into I squared C Okay, so it's not what I thought it was going to be an I Squared C analyzer. but it's not. Anyway, maybe I shouldn't develop my own. Um, is there a specific way you can get the bus pirate and stuff you know these days? But anyway, yeah, that was my idea back in the day.

Don't know why I never went through. although it was one of my dozens of unfinished project ideas. Oh wow, check it out. This is the actual driver itself and at first glance I went.

Oh wow. They've gone to the effort to get all the different colored silk screens printed on here and if you don't know, you can't actually do this. You can actually get multicolored silk screens and the manufacturer will actually do a multipass process process for you. They have to.

Actually, each color of course has to be separate. There is no like, oh maybe if maybe some hands up in the comments down below. If you know of a manufacturer that has a color dot matrix silkscreen printer I Haven't heard of one. But anyway, I've had this done before.

Where you can you know any color that they can supply or even maybe they can get in like some custom colors for you if you pay enough money really and they'll do a separate silkscreen path for each one. So like however they do, they're a silkscreen process silkscreen in quote marks. It's actually using a silk screen much anymore. but you can't actually get multicolored silk screens.

and but it does actually cost you a lot more. Because there's not a standard process, they've gotta put some through multiple times. Bla bla bla bla bla. Anyway, we have an LCD It turns out that they didn't do that, it's just a sticker.

It's just a deckled, but that's cool. No worries. So X Camera lobes. There you go.

You can scan that at home and that's rather neat. I Like that so we can plug in our little display here to Li Squid see driver. Then we can drive things and the good thing is it looks like it's a three channel here. Jeez, that's handy.
Anyway, this is from James thank you very much and a friend avid mailbag viewers and he's included a screenshot here. There you go. So that's the software that comes with it and it would be nice if it was like if you plugged it in it was like a web address or something like that, perhaps. So you wouldn't need software.

and there's a little display. Electric Dollar Store comm isn't that cute Laval They've got like little separate boards there for each one. That's cute and we turned it on. The first thing is it is actually quite dim the screen.

but anyway I like it. It actually measures the current and the voltage. That's actually very nice I like that. anyway.

I'm yeah, we do have no data, no address there. Of shame they don't actually have labels on there. You're probably screaming at me day if there's data on that screen. Turns out that there is if you tilt it like this.

I can shut, barely read it I can barely read if you put it straight on it. Absolutely. that's not the camera That that's not the light I cannot read that. it's it's barely there.

That's just no. no, no, no, no, no, that's screen. That screen needs to go. Got to fix that.

Plugged in here and it's talking to it. It's just pieces of cob court port. There's no Drive or anything. then in a Windows download I think they got Linux ones as well.

Oh no I can see okay Dada's appear in okay I've got some Yep. I've got some data I'm gonna long enough cable now I did manage to get some data to come up like a waveform to come up, but that's only because I plugged it out of one port and plugged it into another. and really I'm not having any luck here at all. I got monitored.

There we go maunder mode and yeah, really don't like the contrast. These do come up different colors here. I did get a couple of digits to come up blue but anyway I Squid see reset monitor mode. It's monitors at all and cool.

You can actually choose your different pull ups which is fantastic. I really like that and you can choose your speed 100 or 400 Kilohertz Megahertz rubbish and claps. Your mode here just has a like an I squared C theme but I can't write any data like so there you go. It is in live monitor mode now it's running for 20 seconds.

If I disable that current drops to zero so it's it's talking to it. that's all live. but I'm not sure what the deal. it actually just popped up there for a second with not responding.

oh you saw it that that 26 just popped up there. Well there we go, There we go. yep and the corresponding ones on here alive. So I don't know why.

seems to be all over the shop I I don't know what's wrong. Is it me to my computer? Oh bloody USB crap Okay I finally looks like I finally got it as I said like a couple of these have shown up are the it's mimicking on the display. exactly what we're seeing here. So I can choose this address.
aha and I can write. Can I write a 1 to it I don't know what I'm writing. write a wonderful writing 11. that'll do.

Oh look, oh we got data on the screen. This is cool. There you go. That's the data that I'm that I've sent.

presumably. There you go. So let me let me try and send some other live data here. Let me send two.

- yep, there it is. it's popped up. That's pretty cool. Shame You can't see that on the you have to look at that on the LCD What? Can't see that on the computer? It's a bit of a shame.

still getting nothing on there. So I'm not sure what I'm writing - I'd have to I guess know that I don't think they supplied any info for whatever Drive a chip they've got on there, but so that's pretty. Jersey I Liked how that line shows up like a 48 and it there's like it's basically an arrow going down. That's that's.

really pretty cool. Ok I found. It's a little bit finicky. So FF where we're reading FF up.

See now it's yeah. Now it's just. well. yeah, it's just gone.

It just vanishes for a bit. So I'm not sure if that's supposed. so can we choose a different register or something? There you go. ffff I Don't know what I'm reading or writing like? That's that's the problem.

I Got no idea. So anyway that seems kind of cool. That's well worth a look. That is open source hardware so check it out so you could actually make your own if you really wanted to.

You know it's crowd supply and all sorts of our seed studio. Cool components everyone out of fruit can you buy it from? Adafruit I don't know. Anyway, I'll link it down below. Design tested and assembled in the United States of America Thank you very much Greg Let Tata in Portland but Portland Oregon Portland Texas I Know there was a Portland in Texas but there you go.

Go figure. Anyway, what are we Okay, Is this like a broken bit of kit? What is this? It's a Seamen safety output car from a popular industrial S7 300 series over here. No. Well I was thinking it would be interesting to see how complicated is simple 24 volt output can be and how it can be killed with.

Rat pee. can be killed with rat pee. Okay, you will see inside. Oh great, let's look at some rat pee that's the first on the mailbag.

Beauty There you have it. We have seen now these industrial controllers before and they are very nicely engineered and built. They're absolutely fantastic. You just tell the quality of the fiberglass used in this thing the the PCB material.

it's just not some cheap. II Absolutely fantastic. Anyway, it's a Siemens for those playing along at home and we've seen these before where they don't have any screws holding them together. They're absolutely fantastic, so dip switches on the front.

Absolutely fantastic. Set the address there so I Got to try and price this out. somehow. it'll come out eventually.
Yeah, that just slid out. No workers? Of course we're gonna have custom. You know, whatever custom process is up here. Custom a thingamabobs? Are they in a Cpl DS FPGAs Got no idea so much to write home to your mom about here.

Here's all the I/o stuff. Whatever this thing's doing I've got no idea. Anyway, I Got some leads down the bottom. Nothing too fancy and you'll notice no.

Well, there is solder missing from there. but it's missing on purpose. Of course because these big Spade connectors down here are a press fit connector. So this whole thing just comes apart like this.

I Don't see the don't see the oh okay, that might be it down there. Is that the rat pee that's caused the problem? That that could be the issue. A little bit of rat pee down there. workers.

what are we got here? Side down. all the electrons are gonna fall out. can't see that part number from here and big asteroids there I presume they are and it's fused for our protection. But yeah, nothing much.

I Expected something drastic. Like expected. like a dead rat inside or something. but OOP just I Don't know if that caused the fire or not, but yeah, it could because then you get leakage across your board and yeah, you can come a gutter and it's probably got all sorts of internal testing and all that sort of jazz.

So yeah, this board here absolutely identical. so they're near on two identical boards there. But yeah, I guess it only takes a small amount of damage like that and to cause this thing to come a guts or and be dumped. So yep, I mean it's not uncommon here in Australia we'll get like snakes inside power supplies and things like that like this famous like photos of steaks that are hidden inside power supplies.

I Guess these types animals they love like the little warm electronics and the little spaces like this. so they love getting inside and having a whiz apparently. So oh, especially more than that. But anyway, thanks for sending it in, that's neat and hopefully get all the effort they went to for that dip switch.

That's fantastic. but don't you love how like none of this tiny little pull-up resistor array down there? Well yeah, look, they went to all the effort to do that double-sided load right just for that one little board. But they really do not like using screws in these industrial didn't type designs. It's like they really go out of their way to avoid them, which is absolutely fantastic.

And it's like all these ones are all superbly designed and built. Haven't seen a crap one yet. Absolutely amazing, so thanks for sending that one in. Anyway, that's it for today's mail baguette.

So if you liked the video, please give it a big thumbs up. There was another package that I opened, but because this is like 50 minutes long already I'm going to leave that for a separate dedicated video, so hopefully that'll come soon. So as always, check out my library a channel over there. Thirteen thousand and something subscribers Now our number five in the world.
Can you keep up? it's going Gangbusters! I'm a crypto just crushed today. so library credits Really cheap, cheap as unbelievable. Anyway, catch you next time.

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20 thoughts on “Eevblog #1291 – mailbag”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars AnnyOne says:

    โ€œIโ€™ve got no idea what Iโ€™m doing and the manualโ€™s in Germanโ€

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Meta Beta says:

    You call that a knife?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars FrankEdavidson says:

    I could use a heated mouse and I guess anyone with Dpuytrens, Raynaud's could.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars uh says:

    Scope teardown vid?

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Adam Wolfram says:

    THAT'S not a knife. THIS is a…..
    No, wait…That's definitely a f'ing knife.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Guy in the Eames Lounge Chair says:

    Pescadero is a suburb of the San Francisco Bay Area and in the shadow of silicon valley only offers more rural living… homes start at 3.0M and go into the 10's of millions..

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DasAntiNaziBroetchen says:

    If you can't tell Sweden and Switzerland apart, I shall start referring to you as Austrian, just to spite you.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ralf Hasemann says:

    I still own such a Createc Scope! ๐Ÿ™‚ bought it 89 I think. Had a really bad usability and low resolution LCD. But those were the times…

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HawkFest says:

    The oscilloscope is sexy! The only problem is with those large sliders on both sides (and which seem to slide easily): difficult to hold in hands or even grab without paying attention about not sliding them out of settings. For that reason among others (i.e. machine + circuit/wiring diagrams & design integration I guess, if not mere ergonomics), such interface – also tried on other appliances in those same years -, was left on the side in the end.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vadim Danshin says:

    Hi, please tell me where you buy this perfect knife? Im finding something similar for me. Thanks in advance.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars B M says:

    I can't believe Farnell are selling shite like this. Since when did they turn into Maplin?

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars gt5228z says:

    The oem probably had access to cheap mouse shells. Fun fact: The atari jaguar's shell was used for some dental exray machines.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steamy_Deck says:

    Now that's a knoif.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Big Cheese says:

    That scope is perfect for your "lending out" toolbox.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jnk mal says:

    I got one of those USB soldering irons from microcenter for a few bucks and it actually doesn't suck. I mean, it is what it is, but it's handy and actually works, heats up in seconds, solders most joints just fine (even thick ground pads), so I can't knock it.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Untrust says:

    Haha, got ads for that first iron, thought dave would love to see it lol

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Play with Junk says:

    I had such a Createc oscilloscope but it had a different keyboard, a membrane type. (Switzerland) I remember that the display was dead slow. Barely usable for low frequencies. Horrible trigger and also very counter intuitive to use.
    Press CH1 NORM AUTO

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Aviram Iancovici says:

    the vintage portable scope is pure alien-tech

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mathis8210 says:

    If you already have a mold ready for the standard mouse chassis, or some factory has a million of them left over, why not use them? xD

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars sternis1 says:

    "I have no idea what I'm doing and the manual is in German" Dave Jones, 2020

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