What is the best electronics textbook?
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A look at four very similar electronics device level texbooks:
Conclusion is at 40:35
Electronic Devices by Floyd: https://amzn.to/2s4BSnK
Electronic Principles by Malvino & Bates: https://amzn.to/2DX88f3
Microelectronic Circuits by Sedra & Smith: https://amzn.to/2s5nBXX
Electronic Devices and Circuit Theory by Boylestad: https://amzn.to/33TF2rC
Also:
The Art of Electronics: https://amzn.to/2qv2j5p
Art of Electronics X Chapters pre-order: https://amzn.to/2qAmQWq
Digital Systems by Tocci: https://amzn.to/2Lvo8Jh
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Hi, It's time to do an often requested video. I probably get like one email a week from beginners that ask me Dave what textbook do you recommend I'm trying to Learn Electronics. You know what's the best book out there? Well, unfortunately, that is almost an impossible question to answer because there is no best best book out there. Because the problem with learning electronics is that there's so many different ways to explain the same thing that there is no one best book.
There's no one best way to explain it. The best textbook is the one that resonates pun intended I'm here all week. It resonates with you. You can give the same textbook to ten different people and one might go AHA This is the best thing ever I get it.
The way they explained it is that but like I didn't just light bulb went off in my head and I totally understand it. Other people might say nah I didn't like that one but I like this one. This one worked for me and you just watched the comments down below. If you think like peak verses at Mill is gonna be like a big fight, well yeah, check it out and down below because recommending the best textbook is it's not impossible.
Anyway, What I'm going to do here in this video is do a shoot out of four sort of like industry standard text here that are used in various universities and college courses on electronics. but they don't cover everything and this is one of the problems with electronics. It's such a huge broad subject that it's virtually impossible to cover it in one book. You just can't do it.
so you know you might want to start out with simple, practical stuff. We actually just discussed this on the Amp hour this morning and be released in a couple of days. We discussed about how you know it might be best to learn like practical examples: What is a resistor? What is a capacitor? What's it? how does a pull up resistor work? And you know, like real, what is voltage, what is current, and all that basic stuff. And she'll actually write like a 500 page book on just the real basic introductory stuff like that.
And the books were going to look at today. They are Huge. They are Enormous. These aren't like 1,100 page like textbooks, so these are absolutely enormous.
And these don't cover the basics or even some of the advanced stuff. You won't find any Maxwell's equations in here. You won't find any control theory. You won't find any even a basic stuff like basic DC and AC circuit Theory Like mesh analysis and you know other sorts of stuff.
It's just not linear. the ones we're going to look at today for different books just focus on sort of like active components in active circuits. So they pretty much start at diodes, transistors, op amps, you know, filters, things like that and these are a thousand pages just on those and this is like really important stuff. So yeah, here we go.
Now the first one we're going to look at here is Floyd now just up front. I am a bit of a Floyd man myself I actually went through school with Floyd so yet there may be some bias there. In fact I've got my original second edition Floyd And yes, it does have the contact back when you're contacted. you know, put contact on your books to protect them anyway. Oh yeah, that's my original edition of Floyd but I do have the new ninth edition here. This is the international edition, but we're actually going to look at the digital versions of all these books instead of. it's just easier to do it on screen is on paper here. so this is the non international edition.
It's got the most boring cover. It's got a We on the front cover. like why? I guess wheeze were a thing at one point. Anyway, Floyd does come in conventional current version and electron flow version for your you electron flow fanboys.
for those schools that really insist on teaching electron flow instead of conventional current flow, but know that electron flow? rubbish conventional current all the way. and the next one here is Us Cetera. Smith it's a quite a popular one. I Do have it somewhere, but I can't find it anyway.
it's the latest version of Cedra Smith The next one down here is Mal Vino and Bates I do actually have the 7th edition, but we'll take a look at the believe these all the latest additions. anyway. The 8th edition of that and the other one we'll look at here is our Boyle stead as well. Some people were swear by that one too, and everyone swears by this.
or they don't swear by any of them. and they only swear by the Bible Art of Electronics. Yes, I'm not going to include Art of Electronics. Why? Because it's not the same as the four books.
As you'll see, these four textbooks are near identical to each other in what they cover. And just as a tease, yes, it's real. The Art of Electronics. X Chapters I have a real pre-release copy.
Copyright 2020. It's still 2019, but I've got it. You can actually pre-order this. so I'll actually quote from the Bible itself or from the gods themselves.
We're often asked, is your book the Art of Electronics a textbook or is it a reference book? The answer is yes, it's kind of both. It's sort of like a it's a quasi textbook slash it's more of a reference book than it is a textbook. It doesn't really. It's not really a proper step-by-step course based textbook.
Although I am aware that this The Art of Electronics is actually used in like the Harvard Electronics Arc or so it was I don't know if it still is Anyway, Yes, I really wouldn't recommend Art of It Electronics as an actual beginners textbook. It's just not that anyone involved in electronics should have a copy of Art of Electronics as a reference manual. And like it's just got a ton of practical stuff it's the leading book for, like practical circuit design techniques, and the X chapters has really got some even better practical stuff in it. Oh nice. So that's why I'm not going to review it here because these four textbooks, as we'll see in the descriptions, are fairly identical in what they cover. Few differences. So up front, do I recommend any of these books for absolute beginners in electronics. No, unfortunately not.
These are textbooks designed for electronics courses and a they're They're fantastic for what they are. But if you need to know what a resistor is, what a capacitor is, and what a voltage in a battery and all the other real beginner stuff, know I'll have to do a separate video on reviewing a really basic introductory electronics text. These aren't really it. These are designed for electronics as companion textbooks for proper electronics courses.
And let's have a look here at basically what they cover. Let's have a look at the contents of Floyd shall we? We've got introduction to Electronics which will be fairly basic. As I said, it doesn't cover like all of your dated DC and AC analysis and all that sort of stuff, it doesn't It's not that it's not an introductory book in that respect, so, but it jumps basically to Diodes special purpose tires. And you've got transistors, transistor circuits.
You know? Then then you've got various Art Transistor amplifiers. You got Fitz amplifier, frequency responses, and stuff like that. You've got other components. These are basically component based textbooks.
Thyristors, Then the Op Amp Basic goddamn Circus special Op Amp circuits, Active filters, oscillators you know, voltage regulators and basic programming concepts for automated testing. Yeah, let's go to Malvina down the bottom here: Malvinas Got once again, diodes. It starts out with like semiconductors. you might get some semiconductor theory you know, doping and PN junctions and things like that.
but basically diodes. Bjts amplifiers Power J Feds MOSFETs Thyristors Frequency effects, differential Operational amps, linear Op Amp circuit applications, active filters, nonlinear oscillators, regulators and that's it's it's near identical index. and then Boyle stead down here. look at this diodes BJT as you send over four Feds FET biasing Op Amps, Power amplifiers digital, some linear digital ICS feedback and oscillator, and some voltage regulators.
Exactly the same thing. If we go up to what Cedric Smith up here, this one actually starts out with signals and amplifiers and stuff like that. The orders a bit different, but covers the same stuff. Semiconductors, Diodes FETs Bjts transistor amplifiers go into part two.
It's sort of organized. a bit different. Said you're Smith are building an integrated differential multistage. Yeah, its frequency responses, output stages, operation.
I amplify Errs and it does actually cover some digital stuff as well. Wouldn't recommend it as a digital textbook. I Don't know why they bothered you. really. stick to a you know, some like a standard digital one if you want to learn or a dedicated digital one if you want to learn digital. but anyway, filters and oscillators, blah blah blah. That's it. So you know, like you'll notice that there's no what is a capacitor, what is a resistor, what is a voltage in what is a battery.
All that sort of stuff. These are not the textbooks for you. If you're after that sort of stuff, these are only covering actual why you know semiconductor type devices and ICS and their applications. Ok, let's start out by looking at Floyd ninth edition here.
let's go and it gives you a breakdown of the standard features of it and things like that. And and it's compatible with our multi-sim So it's like got multi-sim examples and things like that? I Don't know, but does it come with a CD or whatever? I Got no idea and there's a breakdown of the chapter features and stuff like that. for those playing along at home. let's go.
And then it's got references, troubleshooting sections that's always very welcome and examples are set off from text. You know it's much improved over the existing like the second edition, because like you know, there's the second edition there. It's pretty good for its day, but yeah, it's just a bit more colorful and modern. It looks like they got like lab experiments with circuit boards and things like that, so that's all pretty jazzy.
Although really, we're more looking towards these books as like you know, text books, just teaching your circuit design. But it's nice to do the lab experience if you assume can you buy the boards or something Again, there's all the things that we're going to cover. I can't possibly look at all like thousand pages of all four books. So I'm just gonna like randomly bum around and look at the differences.
Now here's where you can see. like introduction to electronics. there's no. What is a battery, What is voltage, What is resistance, What is capacitance.
This is all. assume knowledge. Obviously, you know they start out with the atom which I don't necessarily agree with I Don't think that's the best way to start out. like learning electronics? Definitely not.
But of course you have to understand. You know PN type junctions and you know PN technology and dope into and then understand diodes and transistors a bit better and stuff like that. So you know that's where this sort of textbook is going. So if you don't know what a resistor or capacitor is, you better get learned that first.
So there you go. I'll just scroll through here and you can stop those and read them yourself. This is the full index: broken-down active filters, oscillators, operational amplifiers, things like that like I've done a whole like 45-minute video or something on Op amps I didn't even cover everything I'm not sure if I covered all the stuff that this thing's going to cover and we don't care about programming at the end. So there you go. They talk about atoms and the Bohr model and atomic numbers. and you know, like ya know, the periodic table. It's like, ya know, you don't need to know this sort of stuff bit, but it's in here, you know, but you can skip it. Yeah, like you don't need to know.
You know the orbital, You know parts of the atom and things like that that. no, no, no, no, no, and how it relates to insulators, conductors, semi conductors. Now we're sort of getting into the business: conduction bands and valence bands and all that sort of stuff. I've covered those in video so that that's actually me.
You know, important stuff. So I guess you've got to cover the atoms first to sort of. you know, and like we're only up to page nine, so it's not. You know, they're not going into great depth on there.
It's appropriate for the purpose and electron hole pairs and all that sort of stuff. So unlike these graphics, these are really quite nice. There's certainly a nice our graphic improvement from my existing our second edition back. I Think yeah, 87 88 I Was using that book, So yeah, it's a long time ago in a Galaxy far far away.
Now we're talking PN Junctions Here we go. So this is quite nice. I Like this? Yeah, it's got historical notes as well. that's quite nice.
That's always good to see. Hopefully they got that all all the way through the book. and you know, yeah, this is looking really good. I'm happy with that.
And then, as is quite common in these books, they've got our self tests in here so you know you can do little mini and stuff like that which is handy and the answers are probably in the back of the book are they? And it looks like they're gonna have some application stuff. So in this particular case, solar power. Here's where we use. you know, PN Junctions We're gonna use them in solar panels.
That's neat. I Like that. That's that's. really quite nice.
This is looking good. So I think Floyd might be hard to beat there in the introduction to PN and stuff like that, blame it on the boogie whoo I Just can't Okay, let's have a quick look at diodes here. Yep. I am liking that.
The different packages that's really quite nice. Yep, there we go. We got our diodes. Were you: Effective Barrier Potential Forward Bias Reverse Bias Voltage Current Characteristic Curve all your basic stuff the like that you know it's a real simplistic with ammeter.
Where's the diode in here? Ah hello, something's missing. Is that just the Pdf version? All right, they're talking about the need for reverse biased diodes. Yeah, the classic curve, temperature effects. Very good diode models as well.
and that's about it for your diodes. And then we get into our you know, half wave rectifiers our basic circuits. Then we get down into transformer coupling and like we haven't seen Trans as you have seen, a transformer is often used. A couple where have we seen Transformers? All right. Did we miss a book? And then we get into full wave? Of course, the dual diode one. And then we'll eventually get into bridge. Yep, there it is. Yep, it's all there hunky-dory Yep, yep.
we've got our ripple equations and stuff like that. No workers, that's all good. I'm liking the graphics and things. the the use of color is very good.
Now we jump over to Male Vino and Bates here eighth edition and once again we'll just go through the intro and look at diodes. Just off the bat, so similar sort of thing here. This is interested in three kinds of formula. We'll check that out, but they do current sources Thevenin and Norton sources.
Whereas yeah, you didn't get you know this is like basic DC circuit theory so you know voltage sources so you didn't get that in Floyd so you know. but I don't know how to like. comprehensive that's going to be though. So anyway, then it jumps into semiconductors and there's the rest of the chapters there.
And then you've got a separate chapter just for the diode circuits. special-purpose diodes. There we go. Let's go through.
okay, straight into it. Once again, they've all got this like guided tour of you know, the practice problems. They're all. They're practically copying each other.
Really? I Mean well, this one's got. you know, scope and meter, photos, and stuff like that, photos of real components. That's really quite nice. Yeah, and they've all got various like student resources and stuff like that.
I'm not going to look at those. the three kinds of formula, the definition, the law, and the derivation. Okay, well, that's interest, approximations, and stuff like that. That's a nice thing to put in there, because engineering is all about approximations.
Like you know, you don't calculate things to five decimal places. You like approximate things. rules of thumb. That's a huge part of engineering.
so I'd like to see actual rules of thumb in there. That'd be nice anyway. So they do go into voltage sources here, which we didn't get with Floyds. So yeah, the second project asks stiff region what And they're talking about this in terms of like approximations, including the source resistance.
So they're already like they're jumping into the source or like they assume that you know what a resistor is. Of course, you know in voltage and current and that sort of stuff. And they're talking about voltage sources. They're talking about source impedance and that.
Like the stiff region based on the source impedance. No. I know stiff voltage source I Okay, but that could be more confusing than not. Perhaps not really taken by that.
greater than you know they're talking about. yeah, greater than two orders of magnitude and stuff like that? Yeah, no. Anyway, they go into the Thevenin theorem definition once again, some basic stuff that I've seen this covered in you know, many chapters in other DC circuit theorem books and then think, got you know, some basic problems like the the resistor array and and stuff like that Norton's theorem. They just cover it in real basic stuff I'm not sure if they're going to use that further on in the book if that's relevant. so that's different to Floyd At least it's got some of that, but it's not I Wouldn't call that comprehensive at all. Job interview questions: That's neat. Now we're talking conductor semiconductors, intrinsic semiconductors, two types of flow, energy levels. All that sort of jazz in electronics.
All that matters is the outer orbit. This is called the valence orbit. and they go into details: semiconductors, germanium, silicon. they're just breaking down those.
So yeah, they didn't go into the Bohr atom and stuff like that like they did in floor A. Floyd So covalent bonds? Poor, yeah. Okay, important stuff to know: the flow of holes. I Kind of like the graphics in Floyd a bit better.
I Think the unbiased Diode depletion layers, barrier potentials, and then they're talking about breakdown voltages funneling electrons radiate light. So bingo. We get into LEDs definitions, laws and derivation x' and we're going to get this all through the book. I suspect and they break them down.
They make a specific thing about that like I don't think you need to really know the different. Maybe people will be flaming down in the comments down because you have to separate them and others will become, well, what? No, don't bother, like. And once again, we've got our self tests as well. so that's that's pretty comprehensive.
So the yeah, critical thinking. That's quite nice. I Like that. that's a plus.
And then we've got Diode theory. So once again, they show like specific ones, how to identify a noted cathode and stuff like that. It's really quite neat. So we're getting into the more practical stuff.
now. They show it as ideal and then you know a switch and stuff like that second approximation. once again, yeah, they they follow at least it. You know they're kind of like they were setting up the approximations thing and the laws and and derivations and stuff like that for a reason.
because they just approach it once again. This is, you know, to sort of. You know it's subtly different approaches to teaching the same sort of thing and some people will go oh god, that's so boring I Don't get that. Why? why bother and others who go: oh wow, yeah.
I love that. So yeah, very different. Aha, now we're talking got a real data sheet in there? I'm liking that. Do they explain the data sheet? forward drop, maximum reverse current, how to calculate bulk resistance and stuff like that? Yeah, load lines and specific like surface mount packages. That's nice. And then we get into bridge rectifiers and where they're actually used in side systems I Remember that being employed back in the day and we're up to chapter four now. So we're actually so. They break it down into chapters and once again, the approximations and stuff like that.
So and we've got real pictures of real instruments and things like that. so this is pretty good. and I like these like good to know things. you know Point seven, oh seven.
so this is good to know. Stick that in your mind and then how to hook up a scope to actually measure stuff? Yeah. I Do like how they break down a bridge rectifier because you know, for a beginner, bridge rectifiers are kind of are confusing. so they actually remove the ones that aren't actually conducting and they show the ones that are conducting and things like that how it you know swaps back and forth for each half cycle.
so that's good. Real photos. Yep, yeah, happy with that. And we're talking about ripple frequency.
And yep. Oh now we get into the voltage doublers and stuff like that. so that's neat. Now we go back to Floyd here.
actually. um, Floyd have the real data sheets as well. So thermal characteristics, forward operating currents. We we just didn't go through testing a diode with a DMM and stuff like that.
So yeah, look at it. Look, they've got the old Fluke Seventy series that went. You know it's kind of. Yeah, that's the look and feel of it.
So yeah, we just didn't go far enough through our Floyd's there. Sorry about jumping back and forth here. Application Activity: A DC Power Supply: Well, yeah, okay, our nice nice. yeah.
and Floyd also has the screenshots out I Think those screenshots are better actually. And there we go. like a real demo board. You can.
maybe you can get that board or you can make it or whatever. Wow Examples are comprehensive diodes applications. Then we get into talking about solar power here in: Floyd I Do know once again, which we've just I jumped into. PWM Charge Controllers: Okay, that's great.
thanks very much. Now we're looking at your purpose diodes. Floyd has the special purpose diodes as well. So yeah, they're very, very similar.
electroluminescence. So we're talking about LEDs and ver actors at there. they're near identical. So yeah, Floyd and Malvina here.
in terms of covering diodes and special diets and things like that, I'm probably going to give the edge to Floyd but they're both very good. I Just like the graphics and info in Floyd a bit better, but there's not much in it. What's going to boil stead? and I've never pronounced Nichelle Ski as well I'm sorry Lois but I always just call it boil stead. Anyway, eleventh Edition.
Well, significant equations? Well, we jumped right in. Um, geez, that's that's jarring Wow that'd turn anyone off straightaway. Wow No, no, Why have you put that first? No. Why? Once again, we're straight into semiconductors like PN's and then straight into Diode semiconductors. LEDs We've got computer analysis I'm died. applications, load line analysis and things like that and or gates, Diode and or gates I Don't think the others had that. Clippers clampers, applications and things like that. Hmm, not really a fan of the black on blue right in there.
That's not terrific. anyway. Um, Kilby There you go. That's neat.
So it's good to put photos in the first transistor and stuff like that. Gotta give thumbs up to that. beauty. and a an Intel Core I7 extreme.
There you go to keep the kiddies happy, You keep the kiddies interested. Oh, I'm gonna learn how an Intel Core I7 works. Yeah, Energy levels? Yeah, the graphics aren't as good. No, not I'm not particularly blown away by this.
Don't see anything special yet. Wow. That's a whopping whopping graph to show the show: the standard characteristic: leakage, currents, temperature stability, a breakdown region. Okay, yeah, it's like done on like the grid paper kind of thing.
it's just a little bit clunky. Oh, the graphics just Anna's aren't as good Arnaz polished as the other two Russell Oh I Like the historical stuff, that's good I see your dynamic resistance stuff like that? Yeah, piecewise-linear equivalent circuit oh okay. transition and diffusion capacitance I Don't think we we didn't get that. This is a bit more detailed and I think we got that in the others like I Once again, I could be wrong like that.
Don't take my actual because I'd have to read through every single page of all four text books to know all the different stuff. but yeah anyway. Dyer Specification sheets. So they're getting into a diode sheets.
They know it's not a real goods kind of a quasi real one. They don't put the real but they've stripped out the branding just like on. Mythbusters they take out the brand of the product. Once again, it's good.
They've got good diagrams and they got you know real photo. BK Precision meter there and the curve tracer. they're showing like a modern show. an old tick come on and leads the different types and construction and things like that.
Oh, seven segment displays and computer analysis. They're talking about the software it comes with and stuff like that. I'm not gonna look at any of that diet applications. it's more it sort of the vibe of this one.
Yeah, it's all it's all about. The vibe, the vibe. If this isn't as good as the other two, I'd say you know some people aren't going to agree. but yeah, I didn't Just it's just the vibe.
Yeah, like they're covering all the same stuff. Like there's very little difference in these. There's gonna be very little difference in these for texting in terms of covering stuff. so don't buy one thinking that you're gonna miss out on much. really. Because like, just like small things, bold is Tripler Squad rulers. Oh, there we go. Oh I got to tear down.
got to tear down battery charger external appearance, internal construction. that's kinda neat. Yeah, now we're talking it like we're already into look in inductive elements like you know it assumes that you know what inductors are and and ringing and stuff like that. and yeah, it's just like BAM it just comes out of nowhere and hit you.
This is just in the Diodes application section. Yeah, see, you can argue that they probably should have left that out. I Like the fact that they're doing like input protection and stuff here isn't it? That's you know that's quite alright. Okay, let's look at said you're a Smith shall we? Oxford University Press Now this is slightly different as I said to the ones before because it starts out with signals and amplifiers and then goes semiconductors diodes MOSFETs like I know like I don't agree with that I think the others are better in the way they start.
but once again, it doesn't matter what order it's like like you're going to systematically agree through this textbook. Really. So ok. They have their reason for start now.
Signals and amplifiers, Op Amps and then semiconductors. and then diodes. So looks like we're gonna have to jump 234. But just as an example of what these textbooks are like, like this is like supposed to be a textbook for electronics and it jumps straight into signals and amplifiers and what is a signal and stuff like that? And they've got the current and voltage sources and and frequency spectrum of signals like unpractical.
e the second page and then we've got V Sine Omega T like frequency spectrum of signals I Don't think that's a good way to start your textbook. really know the other three. a much better in the way they start. but a lot of people like Cedra and Smith so you know and it's looking a bit bland and like, look at this frequency response of STC networks and stuff like that I mean no, no, this is for the more mathematically inclined brainiacs really.
Oh and then we get into circuit basics in Ohm's law. That's like yeah, like you're not gonna find and current dividers, signal amplifiers like Thevenin and we're we're gonna get our AC Circuit theory. Okay, we got some basic stuff anyway. I Need to end.
Then you jump into Op Amp. so I need to get down to diodes. Chapter three: Semiconductors We had capacitive effects, their intrinsic semiconductors and stuff like that. The graphics aren't as good as as the others.
No, I'm not seeing anything in said Jorun Smith To say it's better than the other three. Nah, twist my head like no, no, the formulas getting too complex already. yeah, lots of brackets that's a big square root hope you depletion or Junction capacitance formula you and I kiddies are gonna be looking at this going. Oh, I've got to memorize that. Do I know you don't Okay Diodes: The ideal diode. It's a short circuit. No, no I'm I'm not. Transfer characteristics okay, but no it's it's just blender and more technical than the others.
I don't not said your and Smith's not looking good. So far they did want to get better once again, like they got tons of examples and stuff. No now look now the applications. Note that said R and Smith loser there.
All right, let's have a look at Floyd for Op-amps shall we? It won't go into great detail in the actual screen caps here anyway. chapter outlines: Introduction: Op Amp's Op Amps input modes and parameters. Negative feedback effects. The negative feedback bias currents not set voltages.
Open-loop closed-loop Now we'll begin to study linear integrated circuits. Whoo Here we go. They've got to site out of course with the ideal. the ideal Op-amp Here it is.
Yep. So the jumps straight into having like a V here like and they haven't actually explained what ie. V actually is and the Apple voltage is a V times V in. So it's like almost a given that you know like they literally have not explained that they've jumped like straight in and it's just like assumed that you know what a V is like.
Yeah, okay, we've got the internal block diagram is pretty simplistic, but you know it's basically what it is. So then now they're talking about single-ended in differential modes and things like that. Then they jump in a common mode rejection ratio. see I Haven't seen them like where are the basic rules of Op amps like I've done in my video which is you know the classic way of doing it like you know, no current flows in and you know all that all the basic rules of Op amps.
Um, so they haven't It's not the best explanation talking about going green and reducing power dissipation in Op amps and going to CMOS whatever. Now we're talking about bias, currents and input impedance and differential input impedance. and yeah, okay, you know there's nothing inherently wrong with this. It's okay.
I just think it could be done better. That's all. It could have started out more simplistic, and now we're down in noise specs and we're not too many pages here in comparison. Cevapi and perimeters and stuff like that, which is nice negative feedback and yeah, okay, everything's gonna be right, right? right? Let's go from Alvino Shall we chapter our introduction Op Amp's and then they jump straight into like the 741 is that? I don't know about that.
Anyway, Yeah, it's exactly the same as Floyd non-inverting input and basically open loop. You know, Vol? okay, like. But then I explained any of that stuff. So unless I it might have.
Maybe they might have explained that in the transistor section. Maybe there we go. At least they go. Open-loop voltage gain they haven't in a table here, you know, and things like that. So know this. And then they jump into the 741, the industry standard. And of course, they've had a chapter before this on differential discrete transistor discretion, differential amplifiers. So yeah, that would why.
that's why they're put in the internal schematic and and doing that active loading, frequency compensation, and stuff. Jeez, it's very no idea. Wow No, there's not much beginners up a have stuff there at all. No, that's that's worse than Floyd in introduction to Op Amps.
In my opinion, in my humble opinion, your mileage may vary. Okay, let's go to Boyle stead the introduction of Op Amps. Basic Op Amp. That's it.
That's a little bit better. Single-ended operation, Double-ended output. Okay, come and then they've jumped right into common mode option jobs. They're writing a common mode rejection Wow Seriously, that's your introduction to Op amps.
Wow and then straight into common mode rejection. Wow Differential. But no. Nope.
Nope. Fail. That's the worst out a lot. No, Come on no.
but that's the thing What? There's nothing wrong with all this as like reference material. But if you're learning, buying this textbook and you want to learn about Op Amps, this is just I actually remembered Floyd being better than this. But mind you I haven't used it for what nice since the late eighties. No, No no no no no no no no, this is under Op Amps.
Like we're not just designing discreet Op amps here. If you were okay, this is all great. But okay, let's look into Cedron Smith, Shall we? Here We are: Operational amplifiers to Stage Seem I Saw Pam comment are there Wacken Once again jumping straight into common mode range and stuff like that. No differential and multistage amps.
I'm saying if is more comprehensive appears to be more comprehensive on this again. But anyway, frequency response. but that would be frequency response of Bjts and mosfet. Like discrete amplifiers, output stages, and power amplifiers, that's all designing your own.
Well, this, you know that's alright. But now here's operational amplifier circuits and 995. Okay, once again, they've got the 741 as an example. So they not saying they're copying each other.
But yeah, of course they're copying each other. The Genie of Analog Bob Alder. Yep, now see. here's your introduction to Op Amps.
Here It is. What do you jump into? You jump into the two-stage fed amplifier I mean like come on, no, no, no, no, no, no and then did like it. Okay, that's great if you're interested in that. That's absolutely fantastic.
but that's not a way to learn Operational amplifiers Wow No I mean maybe I'm biased because I do it my way in my video, which has been extremely popular by the way. Everyone loves it. But and then you got DC voltage gain like - no no no no, no, no oh wow, no, Come on, no no, no Wow. Really, that's your introduction. Op Amps: Oh wow. The Flying Spaghetti Monster help you I'm that's just wow. That is terrible. No.
999 Once again, great for the mathematically minded, you know people out there. but that's not a way to introduce our pants. That's wow. That's got to be the that's got to be the loser I mean come on.
Then we go into the folder cascode. Okay, great, Okay, great if that's what you want. voltage gain at the folded cascode and slew right now. God And then we go into the 741 like in the internal schematic for the 741.
Great, okay, but not. and I God Give up one last quick one will go into Active Fielder's here 763 this is Floyd Okay, high-pass bandpass, all the usual culprits Filner response measurements and stuff like that. Let's see how their basic filter responses to find PO and all that sort of jazz? Okay, low-pass filter response. You know a go transition.
It's a bit more technical than like to start off with, but you know these are like university level textbooks really. And the different responses there. and quality factor? Yep. and stop filter responses that looks alright.
Compare the the three main culprits of course, a brief synopsis of each one. Selective. Yep, yeah. and how to do it with an Op-amp Okay, now we're getting into the active stuff.
Yep, Yep. Example are likely. You know. the example looks quite nice there.
Yeah, no worries, that looks like it's still in the business. Then you can cascade them together. Yeah, yeah, Floyd's not doing anything wrong. Here by Quad.
See what male vino has to offer here. I Do our sponsors Unity gain second-order blah blah blah idea responses: low-pass high-pass and stop. See, that's sort of like simpler. sort of.
You know it stops everything down there. Some people like that, some don't Good to know. Yep, good to know you can combine them. it's not as nice.
great pick oriented as Floyd. Floyd's better in that respect. So that yeah, they're really up to year. They're really doing the blocky stuff.
Now we start getting to a proper response. and then yeah, inverse Chebyshev. Okay, we should getting some more like realistic looking responses there, but they're not like overlaying. They haven't overlaid all three here, they've You know, they've put a summary table kind of thing, but they haven't like overlaid them all like Floyd did.
So I find that a bit. We've got LC filters. Now that's alright, but we're in a different section. Are we real? Our passive filters? Okay, now we've got active selling key filters here.
Ties into the simulation stuff. They're done. Yeah I I think I'd still prefer Floyd in this one. Well, I hadn't noticed this Boylston does not cover filters I'm not blind, am I I Go cool.
Okay, if you search for filters like they've got some like you know, active filters down here in the Op Amp applications and stuff. But really, there's no dedicated section on filters. So yeah, that's a that's a huge downside when they're you know, at a 900-page book when the others have it, That's it. That's pretty big oversight. Um, Tall Sally's going to be where Slim Short Fat fan. he's going to be there to feel good tonight. Everything's gonna be right, right? right? Gonna have a good rock and roll music gonna play on. Let's try said Jorun Smith shall we? An important part of analog circuits.
not from El Vino. Um, anyway know, right off the bat they've jumped into trance field. a transfer function. no no, no, no filters.
No. The black box filter circuit. okay, no pass band shows the brief history of analog filters transfer function I mean that's just gonna scare anyone away. Come on.
Like the ratio of two polynomials like come on, come on no no, no, no, no, no no, Since though, we got to explain and did get no, no I mean this is how they've jumped into it. Seriously, all that before getting into Butterworth and Chebychev I mean cedron Smith Come on. nah nah. I mean seriously.
seriously, all the transmission 0s of the Chebyshev filter. I mean, you know you don't. Come on. Oh, here we go.
there, we go. That's alright, except that they got the field. Yeah, Anyway, that's okay, but I don't recommend center and Smith so I'm gonna have to call it quits there because like I could just go on for hours And hours And hours and hours. So a Which out of these four books do I Recommend.
As always, your mileage may vary. Leave it in the comments down below. which is your favorite? Which one? or wouldn't you touch any of these and tell us which one you recommend down below because that's what this is all about. Really.
But comparing these four here, I've got to say Floyd has the edge as I said. maybe I'm biased because I used to use Floyd but just the the graphics, the color and the use of color and the just you know, the lack of any sort of like detailed math or anything like that. I Really like Floyd although second-choice they're probably all mote. practically equivalent would be Mel vino and abates here.
Really? that? like toss a coin between those two. Really? so yeah, his slight edge for Floyd there Boyle stead no no, no, the others are just clearly ahead of that. Cedron Smith which I've heard has lots of fans know it I Don't like. the way they present stuff is far too much mathematical treatment inside Cedron Smith but like I said, like any of them for like learning objects from basics is not not that terrific.
and maybe if I look into some of the other subjects as well. you know Bjts and and MOSFETs and things like that I might find something similar, but you can get the drift of these four books here. So the most math, the most mathematical and detail would be Cedra Smith but I think probably the easiest is Floyd or Melvina and Boyle stead just I Don't know why you'd pick Boyle stead over any of the other three I Hope you enjoyed Found that at least bit interesting. If you did, please give it a big thumbs up. And if you want to see a shootout of like some really entry-level stuff because that like I said, these are not entry-level texts. They're basically just university texts for covering the basics of component-level electronics. So you're gonna need other books if you want digital or one of up ya. Cedron Smith has some digital.
but really you know if you want a proper digital book just get a digital book anyway. and if you curious to know which digital book I had back in the day again contacted for my own protection and if you want to know what digital book that I had back in the day it was I'm course I learned from our caller Mitchell Talking Electronics I've done a video call on Mitchell I have to link it in down below anyway I had touchy-touchy this is what was it a fourth edition touch it. So this once again dates from the late 80s and I just thought touch he was really good in terms of digital but if you want to see a digital book shoot out. but anyway that's what I used I found it quite good.
no worries whatsoever. and then you'll have other texts for like electromagnetics and then you'll have your other physics and your Maxwell's equations and all your other stuff, your control theory books and you'll have like books. Onto the textbooks on everything. So yeah it's just nuts, but like you need one of these like general-purpose ones so that you can go and you know if you forget what the Chebychev filter type is or something or different.
Comparing the different filter types and responses and stuff like that, you know you're gonna have a book like this or you get a reference book. But as I said, everyone should have a copy of Art an Art of Electronics linked in down below and the new ex chapters looks really good too. You can pre-order the Exchequer's I think it's out in March or something like that. Anyway, you can pre-order and I'll put links to all these Amazon and down below.
So yeah, watch the comment wars down below because I'm sure it'll be very heated which is the fun part of all this. So yeah, if a fluid or Melvina here I think as the winner out of those in my humble opinion. let us know your thoughts and leave suggestions to other introductory level texts down below. Hope you liked it.
Catch you next time.
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Well put Dave. I have found that you cannot limit yourself to one source. Over the years of post graduation. I found many excellent resources. Downloaded The Art of Electronics yesterday.
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Also, can you recommend me a self study book on 8085 microprocessor?
OMG! I recognize ALL of these texts! I had Floyd for a text at West LA College, Boyelstad AND Malvino at Univ. of Ark. at Little Rock, and my professor at UALR gave my friend and lab partner Abdallah the Sedra and Smith text as a gift for excelling in his class work!! These, as well as THE ART OF ELECTRONICS are some of the best text books in EE! Personally, I think Malvino's text is the best at explaining complicated circuits with a minimum of fuss. Sedra and Smith is best for gifted students.
WHAT'S A GOOD BOOK FOR ALL DIODES , PART NUMBERS AND EQUIVALENTS FOR REPLACEMENT >
Yes. Everyone starts somewhere, so it might be easier to give advice for best first electronic books for starting. A good strategy 1970-1980: 1. easy introduction, 2. deeper reference book, 3. specialized information: part compatibility data sheets, integrated circuit data sheets, 4. updating magazines for latest news about parts & circuits & latest applications, 5. today try: internets ebooks & apps: AllDataSheet, Circuit-Simulation; available even on smartphone: audio signal generator, simulation app, may be DMM/DSO/AWG-USB-extension like USB-medical blood glucose measurement or USB-Geigercounter.
My first books were (late 1970/early 1980):
1.) vivid introductionary book of a starter experimental kit: I started with Philips Electronic Experimental Kit containing a 400 page book in german ~ "Learning Lessons Electrics and Electronics" Part I: Introduction and Foundation (electrical materials, R, C, L, Transformers, electr. Tubes, semiconductors, Diodes, Transistors, Integrated Circuits, low freq. techn. & audio records & CD & VLP, Radio techn. AM FM, TV b&w color, magn. recording audio & video, Computer µProcessor & dig. logic & memory, light & lamps, physical units).
This Part I followed by a Part II covering similar contents may be deeper, but I bought a bigger reference book covering that also which was later added by special magazines & books when becoming an educated professional Radio & TV service technician (design own circuit, 1 Radio receiver book, 1 TV receiver book, repair how to, etc.).
2.) deeper reference book: I bought a 650 pages big reference/bible book in german ~ "Workbook Electronics" by engineer Nührmann (practical foundation: design data & formulas & tables (units/material, thermal data, coils+transformers, HF & LF, drawings), mechanical work (cut/sew/drill, solder, paste, materials, mark/bend/form, techn. drawing) to electric & electronic parts with circuits & calculation ending with OpAmp & optic electronic). This famous german book later grew splitted in multiple (6) parts before becoming an ebook.
3.) added/followed by specialized books about parts, circuits or their applications (design own circuit, repairing how to & diagnosing, ham radio DX, RC).
PS: Before going to electronic I played Lego and read easy children books about history of technology (basic mechanical constructions, wind & water mills, wheels & cars, swimming & ships, air & airplanes, fire & heat water/air for steam & combustion engine, water power plants, turbines e. g. kaplan/francis/pelton, generators, jet engines for airplanes & space rockets, nuclear power plants, robots).
At undergraduate level they use Hambley (Electrical Engineering: Principles & Applications, Global Edition), seems to work well for the basics.
My university a decade ago used Sedra/Smitha, fortunately supplemented heavily with labs and practical material. By god, everyone in the class hated that textbook and sought out various other means to learn the material because it’s just impenetrable.
Horowitz & Hill – The Art of Electronics – it's the bible!
The Art of Electronics is the bible. Not really necessary to have a new issue (3rd edition), editions 1 and 2 are fine if you need to pinch pennies.
My big problem with all books I have seen including many not mentioned in the video is that they start their coverage with friggin J-Fets instead of Mosfets. In fact, they almost have MOSFETs as a footnote. Now if you go to digikey or mouser and search for the number of JFETs they have and compare it to the number of MOSFETS available (power or otherwise), there are hundreds of JFETS, vs tens of THOUSANDS of MOSFETS available. In fact, there are more MOSFETs you can buy than both JFETS and BJTs COMBINED!
They really should start with MOSFETS and spend most of the FET pages on it with the JFET being a footnote. Especially given how prominent the power MOSFET has become in modern circuitry (SMPS, Mozilli drivers, stereo amps, etc) it is ridiculous to cover JFETs to any great degree at all. They are used prominently on many opamp input stages, but how many of you are going into IC design? It is good to know a little about JFETs, but it shouldnt be a focus of modern textbooks on semiconductor-based electronics for the average EE.
Thats why the Sedra book caught my attention since it DOES actually emphasize MOSFETs, but it does it at a level assuming you have had an actual Circuit Analysis course under your belt given the level of math involved.
One thing that makes The Art Of Electronics textbook-like is the fact that there is a lab manual for it also (which has info in it not in the main book).
We used Malvino in school in 1981.
I have a copy of Floyd – Digital Fundamentals when going to school way back when. It was a pinkish color, so it became known universally as the 'Pink Floyd' book. I wonder of that was intentional…
I've never read a book about electronics that is better than Electronics Circuits, Amplifiers and Gates (Second Edition) by D V Bugg. It's absolutely content dense no fluffy stuff at all!
Hello i have a question , im electro technician , currently going for software engineering , but i would like to know a lot more in electronics so i could design my own circuits and repair stuff, is there any good book for learning , also i dont have a lot to spend on books
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The video host Dave said Sedra and smith is bad as it contains lot of math. I think it is really easy book with lot of "tools". It is easy for any person who has done some math in linear algebra and ODE's and differentiation and integration. The tools above are mini circuits which can be connected to form bigger circuits. The book teaches you how to build circuits, amplifiers in this way. I had been reading this book and it seems fairly easy. Some design problems take time as you need to be inventive in making circuits. The video host seems to come to conclusions quickly. For somebody who has completed Electronics/Electrical engineering degree twenty or thirty years ago, it may seem hard at first but if you re-aquaint yourself with engineering circuit analysis with books like Hayt, kemmerly Durbin and phillips and a Engineering math book like Kreyszing and a signals and systems book, the Sedra and Smith book is easy and also fun. The same might be said about Boylestad or others. This is my sincere review of the Sedra and smith book.
Hey Dave, just wanted to point out that Sedra/Smith does go into the basics of op-amps. It starts in Chapter 2 (in the textbook I have). You were going over Chapter 13, which dives deeper into op-amps, granted that the person reading has already reviewed Chapter 2. I think they start out much better than the other textbooks with the ideal op-amp, what happens when you add feedback, inverting/non-inverting amps, very similar to how you described it in your op-amp basics video.
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