Why free chip samples are NOT always a good thing. Will they cost you more in the long run?
Hi welcome to the Eev blog an Electronics Engineering Video blog of interest to anyone involved in Electronics Design. I'm your host Dave Jones Hi It's time for another drive time rant this time around. I Wanted to talk about free samples because there's a lot of people out there who get sucked into this free sample cycle and they think it's the greatest thing since you know, sliced bread. Oh look, the company is going to send me chips for free.
You know, Fantastic. You might think, well, there's lots of traps when you get sucked into the free sample cycle. Now one of the first things is is that it can take a considerable amount of time to get free samples. There are exceptions to this.
there are companies that do it really quick, but generally speaking, you are not going to get them as quick as you can through the component. Distributors You know Digi Key Mouser Fels Element 14 RS those sort of ones because they can offer same or next day service on all their in stock. Parts Why not use it now? Especially here in Australia Um, they offer free delivery on anything regardless of the order size. so you can just buy one chip for $2 and they'll Cy it to you next day for free.
It's fantastic. Why would you bother with uh, free samples? Really? when it only cost you a couple of bucks? Don't be a tight ass. now. One of the other major uh things with Uh samples is that it's uh.
there's a lot of hustle as well. Um, especially in places like Australia where often you won't get the samples direct from the manufacturer, you'll have to go through the local distributor and the local distributor give you a third degree. They you know they want to know what project you're working on, how exactly the part's going to fit in, how many you're going to want. You have to fill out a damn entire survey before you can get your free parts and then they want to deliver it to you for you know they want to.
Oh, look, I'll drop by and I'll you know and we can talk about your project. and if we can help you with other parts, No go away. God Don't want to waste hours of your time dealing with bloody reps and things like that, so just don't do it from a hassle point of view. really.
Um, and uh, the other, uh, well, one of the major things with samples is that um, you have if unless you actually go through and do the research on each part you get as a sample, well, is that a viable part? I've talked about this before. you might design the part into your design. You might think oh, great. I'll design in this part because it's free I Can get you know, five free samples from the manufacturer? Well, that's great if you're only going to make one or five.
Well, what happens if you finish your project? It's a winner and you want to go make a 100 of them or a th000 or 10,000 What do you do? Well, you got to cross your fingers and hope that Parts actually available in volume in you know, in the time frame that you actually want at a at a reasonable price in volume. So God don't get sucked into it. Um, as I've said before, a lot of uh, you know, a good lot of the design process is actually selecting the right part. and if you bypass in terms of price, volume availability compatible Footprints all sorts of things. If you bypass all that and make your decision based solely on whether or not you can get free samples, well, you're going to come a gutsa Okay, and that's Australian Talk for um, you know you. You're uh, you're going to come undone basically down the track. There's going to be a catch which is going to get you so don't fall into the free sample cycle. You get what you pay for.
Really. Remember that Kitties.
i get free samples just for personal purposes. so i can play around with a new micro controller. i just think its fun. also i live in a poor household in Western Australia so its kind of the only way i can do electronics.
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Bopstar
Is audio not synchronized with your lips?
i never really understood free samples.. within a research&development budget, the component costs are going to be insignificant compared to the labour costs of actually developing the product. I mean who cares if your company has to spend a 100$ buying you a bag of chips when it takes 2 manyears to develop the damn product.
Texas Instruments has a pretty nice free sample program. I just see the sample I want, add it to the sample cart, answer about 3 questions (I think it was only 3, and I'm pretty sure at least 2 of them had drop down menus), and then they ship it. Both times I requested samples, I received them in about a week, if that. No spam emails, either. 🙂
I mostly wanted the free sample to figure out how to use the things for a project, so I think the free samples worked out quite nice in my case.
While I do, for the most part, agree with sentiment, sometimes it's not so bad.
I requested some sample components from Coilcraft about 18 months ago for a project I was working on, basically because I just wasn't entirely sure exactly which one was going to be the best fit for the job. Got my samples, did my tests, ordered more of the right component. The samples did take a while to arrive, but no hassle at all.
Sometimes it's useful. 🙂
Not to nitpick, but you do say "don't do it" which sends a different message than "be aware of these things" — the message I think you are really trying to say.
I envy you for getting free shipping in Australia, because you take a bath on shipping here in the states if you are ordering small quantities. So the calculus is different.
I use the sample programm to get parts that are not direct availlable to me (most of the "big" distributors dont ship to private person or require extreme shipping cost)…
No I saw your comments it just wasn't like that for me. The only thing I was asked was where to send the parts. And by the way I don't watch TV anymore. I have much more entertainment from watching you. Keep it up.
You must have missed all my other comments about why it's sometimes not such the great deal it sounds like! If those things don't apply to you, then fine, you got $50 worth of parts for free, awesome.
I just got 4 max9709 class D amplifyers from Maxim for free. No shipping nothing nada. If I would have bought them from Digikey it would be pushing fifty bucks. Now maybe Dave can dump fifty dollars US and say he's not a tight ass but I think fifty bucks worth of parts is pretty cool. And no questions asked. Maybe its a down under thing.
basically everyone but North and parts of South America drive on the right side.
I though only Europeans drove on the wrong side of the road.
It's true Dave, If you're working on decant projects and really put your effort in it, you might once make something that you can reproduce and sell to others. So I think it's best for me to get familier with High-Quality components.
good old m2 motorway! lol from a fellow sydney sider
u talk a lot………..
UK? NZ?
@johnfranks Distributors don't, but the manufacturers do. Look at ST, Ti, and Maxim just to name a few. Generally it is easier to get free parts that one wants as a business as well!
I understand your complaints Dave and it would be a mistake to select a part based on there being a free sample, but I designed something had a few choices, one part was from Ti, and they were giving free samples of it. Fedex, got it in a few days… So it is worth checking if there are free samples, but bad idea to design around it. Shipping costs are large in the US from the big suppliers…
@johnfranks I am advising about the potential pitfalls that some people are not aware of. I am not bitching about getting stuff for free.
@0000mastermind I was doing the speed limit. The watch is a Timex Expedition Digital Compass watch. I use it for canyoning.
dave……dont speed!!!!! you looked like you were doing 100mph, but then again…other cars were passing you like you were parked up lmao….the wrist watch looks interesting….what is it???