It's just a note. No little boards secret it away. Hi David Just came across Evy Books 708 and felt compelled to give you feedback. I'll explain why in a moment.

Odds are we disagree on a number of things. We probably disagree on how well the laws of physics as they stand. Here we go explain the totality of observed phenomenon. The laws, to the extent they've been discovered, have certainly proven themselves useful.

You think two engineers allowing you to design and build miraculous things that the rest of us depend on every day? On the other hand, here we go. someone's going to debate the laws of Physics Sagan or the current laws of physics. On the other. on the other hand, it's useful to remember that these laws in quote marks are of human origin and the universe is in no way obligated to follow them.

No true scientists would argue otherwise. For as long as our understanding remains incomplete, we must concede their provisional nature. There are Flick Ability is limited to our point of reference within time and space. Another way to put it is to say that it is entirely conceivable that a better set of laws is yet to be discovered.

This is very true either to supplant the ones we currently rely on to swallow them up as a subset within a more fundamental said yeah, no one's going to disagree with that. We've respected a limit scope of observation from our oh wow, this guy's on. Wow, wow. This one could go on for a while I would hold that our range of understanding is limited.

Any honest accounting would lead us to the conclusion that unexplained phenomena I don't even remember what video 708 is I've got to go look it up. Hang on. Yep, it's of course the free-energy overunity. BS videos.

So this is about free energy. Of course it is. It would hold that arranging around blah blah blah blah blah. Perhaps the field of physics has gotten itself stuck in the current paradigm.

I'm sure you're going to fix them. Michael is overdue for a monumental shift. I Also disagree with your certian that our current set of laws rule out the existence of free energy. It's like all you've got to do is demonstrate it.

Okay, I'm not saying that they rule them out. Did I say that? It's like it's like people have been working on this for hundreds of years. They've never even gotten close and they claim they do. And every time it's tested.

Every single time it's tested. and it fails every single time because they just don't account for something. They just simply do not understand what they're doing. We've all heard there's no such thing as a free lunch, and any claim of overunity violates the secular or thermodynamics, blah blah.

But these laws rely on the theoretical concept of an isolated system. What if he had your bookie down the stream? Which one was that? Astrophysics from your young people we've kneeled by? Neil deGrasse Tyson Yeah, it's good, isn't it? Okay, Oh, I haven't read it yet, but I've heard it's really good. You reckon it's good I Rap I Read it full throwed ten times, ten times already. well done.

Sagan All right, Yeah, It's absolutely no reason to assume that reserve our universe constitutes an isolated system. blah blah blah yeah yeah yeah, do you have an answer? Michael Do you have an answer? Rather than just waffling on like just like seriously, it is easy. All the engineers on the planet would instantly believe you if you could just demonstrate that overunity exists? It's not. It's not hard to demonstrate more power in than you know.

We can accurately measure power going into a box. We could measure power coming out of a box. It's not that hard about nobody. Nobody can do it.

and there's so many charlatans out there that I just unbelievable and finally just found. Like to point out the very idea that exists one set of fundamental laws together is not provable. Nobody's saying it is. Our civilization has existed for a short time when it cosmic blip.

Love reason for writing which I promised I'd get to. Obviously your points our points of view differ I'm unlikely to convince you to change yours and you're unlikely to change mine I Disagree It's easy to change my mind and Sagan's mind and every other engineers on the planet Just demonstrate. Just demonstrate that you can get more power than you get in. So can you get more power out of something than you put in Sagen? No, no, Why not back? Because the power that you put in there does not does not go up as it goes in.

It stays the same amount of power. Yeah, isn't because there's no because there's no yeah you guys because there's no power inside the box already to join with that. Then I'm out how to make a greater amount of power when it comes out cool. So it can only be the same or less because it can consume power.

And it can also lose power as it goes a lot. And the pound. And just slowly. That's right, it can dissipate.

Comment: Well, change forms are continued. Hey, to a light or or cell? That's right. Cool. You're eight.

Dude, you're eight and you get it, Don't ya? Yeah, Yep. And what would it require to prove that something gives more power out than what it puts in? Demonstrate it. Just measure it. Seriously, you are from Hanson and blah blah blah virtual.

Your new ID is challenging. The prevailing paradigm are at first vigorously opposed. Thus, I may be a kook or simply an ambassador for a new idea. Only time will tell.

Well, only time will tell. There's been a lot of people before you. There'll be a lot of people after you. You are probably a good engineer, is certainly a good teacher of challenging concepts.

You are your best when you are presenting ideas from a place of knowledge, concepts which you know and understand through their practical application. From this perspective, Eevblog number 708 feels like an aberration regardless of whether or not you are successful in debunking the overunity claims. If you actually have a look at oh I by the user Man of Stone, Man of Stone actually admitted it was wrong and I think he removed his video if I remember correctly and my video was actually demonstrating why that particular example was wrong. And I'm a hundred percent right.

Crazy. One of the interesting aspects of any discussion around free energy. a loaded term? Yes, I agree. Free energy is a weird term because like energy harvesting is real, there's energy all around us.

We can harvest that energy and stuff like that, but in an isolated system. When you measure it, you cannot get more power out than what you've put in. And that's not it. And that includes all sorts of other harvested energy and all that sort of jazz.

The Energy's got to come from somewhere is how difficult it is to find a neutral point of view. Your video confirms this. You go far beyond exposing the lack of investigating Auriga shown by man. Estonia State your video uses contempt for anyone who is willing to entertain the possibility of tapping into a field and infinite on near infinite energy.

Writing: As someone receiving him this venom urge, you conduct an honest bit of self inquiry. Yes, it was having a laugh at free Energy videos cuz they're hilarious. And there's so many scams out there. I'm sure you don't deny that there's actually scammers out there taking advantage of people.

And really, when you look at all this, every single you look at one of these free Energy videos, you go Look, They haven't taken this into account. They're not taking this into account. and it's just not. You're saying it's not honest on my part.

It's gotta be kiddin. It's not honest on the part of the people who were trying to build these things and they just don't understand how to measure these systems anyway. with respect to free, that's it that tells you everything. With respect to free energy, there are those myself.

Included is sincerely want to believe Exactly I Want to believe too. But yeah, I want to believe in aliens too. They see a legitimate possibility, and their bias is likely stereo favored. A deeper investigation.

There's nothing wrong with that. Just don't. When engineers question your results, you'd better listen. Okay, yes, we're probably thought of something or making you aware or something you possibly didn't know.

We may be listened to. Always listen to an engineer. Yep, Yep, we may be the dreamers, but our dreams are ground in a deep intuitive understanding of how things actually work. Really.

So if you're so intuitively understanding how all this works, you'd be able to do a video explain that to you sincerely. I Invite you to do a video explaining and demonstrating your overunity machine. Go ahead please. On the other hand, there are those who openly hostile to the idea.

not openly hostile to the idea I am hostile to the scammers out there. and I am hostile to just the sheer number of people who do not listen to just basic engineering evaluation of their ideas. It's unbelievable where they met with extreme prejudice. Yeah, cuz if you've seen just the ton of garbage that these overunity people are poor out, it's phenomenal.

See? a kind of dishonesty? No, we did. End of each paragraph of their face, the most insidious lies are the ones we tell ourselves. While we have been conditioned to teach ourselves to believe that science has ruled out the possibility of free energy, the truth is in fact opposite. Once again, you're using free energy.

You're talking about over unity. You're talking about energy harvesting. Where's this energy coming from? Does it come from zero-point modules? Where does it come from? Thank God doesn't come from Dad. The end here.

and they just split it out. When they face Palmer self, how much? How much energy do you think it takes to facepalm? We could probably calculate it, put the engineering effort into it. Probably how much Anyway, that was that was energy dissipated when you create that sound like that. Because energy goes into the sound energy goes into this stop in and and the energy spread out as heat as well.

Because yes, nobody. Oh A lot. Anyway, Likewise, people will leave. they open the new ideas.

Whether those are true, you hate the idea I Don't hate the idea of free energy like that. Think it'd be fantastic. Um, it just proved it. Very simple to prove that you've gotten over Union machines.

So make sure you look at yourself to figure out what it is about. the idea that offends you. How did I come about this particular belief that free energy equals BS And why do I cling to it so strongly? It's because nobody has proven to me otherwise. Just prove it to me.

10:55 We almost have to go. You've got a master chef class Like a chef class though You cooking class. Yeah, cool. One day we'll chuckle at the notion that perpetual motion cannot exist.

When perpetual motion represents the very essence of what the universe does. From atoms to galaxies, the entire universe is eternally in motion when a frictionless la blah blah unapologetic cheerleader for all genuine exploration of free energy. Thank you! Sincerely thank you very much. Michael Hey for from my Calgary in Alberta Canada for sending in a letter I might scan this but just show us so like yo anyone could waffle on like this.

All you've got to do is show us your free energy. Hey, I'm not against anyone going out and researching energy harvesting. Free energy over Unity. If you want to do that, knock yourself out.

Just don't take other people's money and listen to critical feedback when you demonstrate your machine and get it. Don't Please don't be surprised or offended that engineers like myself and other scientists and physicists really just laugh at the idea because there's every time we're presented with this there is some massive fail in some way. it's just based on the evidence of how many people have tried to do this. How many? Not saying it's not possible, but it just keeps coming.

It's a pepper you've got. We've got a perpetual motion. I Think we found perpetual motion facepalm machine. That's your motion machine.

Alright, so free energy? Dude. thumbs up or thumbs down. Yeah, you think overunity as possible. You think you can get more power out than you put in? Nah, two thumbs down.

Maybe you? Yep, Doesn't mean it's not possible. right? When When you're my age, who knows we might have over Unity. So I'm doubting it. Yeah, doesn't mean it's not possible yet.

I'm not dancing. This is the perpetual motion face found machine. Catch you next time you.