Dave tears down and takes a look at the classic 1980 Tandy / Radio Shack TRS-80 Colour Computer.
Includes hacking a composite video output circuit to get it working on a modern HDMI computer monitor.
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Hi, it's Vintage Computer time again. we love vintage computers here on the Eevblog and this time we have the classic RadioShack / Tandy Trs-80 or trash ad Color Computer or affectionately known as the Coco Now this one was originally released in 1980 and it was the follow-up to the original Trs-80 computer, but it is a completely different beast. This is the Trs-80 color Computer as opposed to the previous Trs-80 which was not a Color computer, hence why they had the fancy little red Korean and blue there. So it's actually a completely different design using a different processor.

but they kept the name Trs-80 even though the ad in the previous one pretty much stood for the fact that it used a Z80 processor. This one completely changed from Z80 to the Motorola 6809 processor and like entirely different but for some reason and they wanted to keep the brand in new marketing. and it's got a classic Chiclet style keyboard here. the chiclet 1 means it's got square keys with the spaces between them like that and the feel is very spongy.

You're really yeah, this is not your friend. This keyboard now the original 1980 model I started with the entry-level 4k model. It actually had a black surround on here, so this one must be a later unit than that, so ultimately was discontinued in 1983 or it was replaced by the Color Computer 2 and then the Color Computer 3 or Coco 2 or 3. But this is effectively the original design from 1980 up until 1983 and it eventually shipped with 64k of ram.

Now this was originally released at 399 U.s. dollars and that's 1980 U.s. dollars. and there was a pretty decent price Back in the day For a computer, you got to remember like we're computers like the Commodore 64 weren't around yet.

they'd be another couple of years or so. I mean not even the Vic-20 was around. Then the TI 99 for a wasn't around, then didn't come out until 1981. And so you know you had likes of the Atari 800 as a competitor the original Apple 2 ones like that.

So you've got to remember the market was still very primitive in 1980. Once we got onto 8283 with the Commodore 64 and other more advanced computers, then you know it got a bit more fancy. pantsy. But this was a state-of-the-art low-cost home computer in 1980.

So on the side here, it had the ah flap for the cartridges you could just plug in of course, your game cartridges and programme cartridges on the ROM and on the back. Nothing fancier. We've got a power switch left or right joystick. it was mains directly Iddyn under this hour.

IEC Rubbish. Dual joysticks affect me two players at once. Wow Fancy serial I/o port which could bugger off to like later on. they probably had a modem attachment or whatever and cassette drive.

Fantastic Channels select for the video and that looks like a composite output, but it's not. It's a direct RF modulated output directly to your TV so that's really rather annoying. But hey, they were designing it for the home computer so it couldn't go to a computer monitor. It had to go to an RF television and a reset button.
Don't accidentally press that, lose your entire program. and on the back here, just some vents there. And no, this thing didn't have a fan at all. And there's the label for those playing along at home.

Tandy Corporation. None of this. RadioShack Rubbish. This is actually an Australian version, hence the PAL format here.

220 240 volts Ac so different markets had to have a specular transformer. Why did them? It takes about 24 what so there abouts made in Korea Thank you very much. Bob's your uncle and serial number five. Oh three, Oh Four five.

is it for those playing along at home and this bad boy ran at a whopping 895 kilohertz or double that depending on how it was operating stuff like that, so not particularly quick. But hey, that was what it was back in 1980. And check it out. We have the operation manual for this thing.

Look at this. Let's have a look too customers. It's not very big so I can show you the whole blinkin lot. Really welcome to the Trs-80 Co.

Ah yeah, Ah, look at these. Oh strolling. The virtues of this bad boy. Really fantastic and installation connecting to your television set.

antenna. Hook it up! They've got all the fancy pantsy pictures just showing you what it is, how to hook up the cassette recorder, stuff like that, how to power it on the reset switch and it had nine colors Wow using the keyboard, using the joystick, using the cassette recorder to save and load programs and that was pretty much it. A couple of little demo programs or whatever, but that was that was it. Oh geez, so much of manual is it? But this is where it all happened.

Getting started with Color Basic fantastic and ah, look at all this look at all this, Ah, all these programs which they didn't actually tell you in there you had to like. go to the end to get the programs. They kind of like, you know, tried to make you do it yourself and all that sort of jazz, but you know a lot of work went into that and once you had perfected that, you went Extended Color Basic. Thank you very much for the larger memory ones.

I Believe Extended Color Basic was not available for the lesser memory model units back in the day. but huh? Look at the graphics, Look at the graphics are the pages are stuck together. Ah, somebody got so excited that the pages are stuck. No comment.

Alright, let's have a look inside this bad boy. as is very common with this design back in the day. haha. wear it like Flynn Lee This classic 1980 like early eighties construction Here you can't half tell with the ball all through hole construction.

The large ceramic cops down here for the bypass in on the memory and everything else. They just don't make them like that anymore really. and that's pretty hell you're doing. We've just got the cardboard over the top of the transformer here to insulate that we've got our power supply stuff up here.
It looks like it. We've got our main regulator, our RF modulator up the back. There's our process and we'll take a closer look if we got our roms there. We've got our memory and the PIO and the video display controller and whatnot.

There's not much in these things actually. The keyboard there we go. The keyboard just pops off so you can see the entire board populated there and just a double sided layout. Nothing fancy and it's just very typical of what you'd expect in a like late 70s early 80s vintage computer.

There's no custom Asics gate arrays or anything like that, just uses the off-the-shelf our Motorola stuff. plus just you know, generic 7400 series logic. You know the computer might have been made in South Korea but the keyboard made in Japan Oh, this stuff's made in Japan Now this definitely looks like a later model because look, we've got jumper switches here 16 K and 64 K if you can see that and over here as well. 16 K Like we've got the 64 K populated one.

Oh, just feel the power and sure enough, a Hm 68, 42 P D Rams And these are 64 K bit ones. So of course we've got 2, 4, 6, 8. None of that parody rubbish. Find it interesting that they got the thyroid beads in here.

They were taking a EMI into consideration the true magnetic interference I'll just trying to take the edge off all that nasty 5 volts TTL Running around on that double sided PCB Without the ground plane, there's the brains of the outfit the Motorola MC 6809 and this was a state-of-the-art processor back in the day. And above that, we have our roms I Don't know why we've got Rev 1.0 and Rev 1.1 I'm not sure what the deal is there I'm Bua Bua And above that is a curious beast. It's actually a 7, 4, LS, 7, 8, 3 aka a Motorola MC 6 w8 three and this is what's called a synchronous address multiplexer. If we move over from there, we have two other major large LSI chips.

So this one here is the MC 68 22 and this is the MC 68 21. And you probably can't have tell what the 68 22 is doing by the tracers going up here to the ribbon cable. it's going up to the keyboard and this one's actually what's called an industrial interface adapter. It's got like open drain outputs.

Another stuff for more industrial. In quote marks a type interface in whereas your Ass 68 21 is your regular RPI a a peripheral interface adapter. As a opposed to an industrial interface adapter. this one just allows you to interface with more generic logic as opposed to like having open drain outputs which are pretty useful for our keyboards and stuff like that.

And from there, if we head down, we've got ourselves the video control of the MC 68 47 P You can see the main crystal there they are four point, four, three, Double Three, Six, One Eight designates this one as a Pal unit as opposed to what NTSC which would likely have a different frequency crystal in there for the color subcarrier frequencies. So that's a dead giveaway that this is the video chip. you wouldn't even have to. you know? Look that one up.
You know just by the free code just by the crystal next to it. That's what it's doing. And right next to that there is our video generator. It's an RF video generator chip, but we're not actually modulating with the RF The RF is actually disabled in this chip.

They use a diode and whatnot to actually disable the RF our oscillator because they've got their own Aref our unit here. so this one is just working as a video mixer. Basically, that's the Motorola MC 1372. As you can see, it's basically Motorola.

Everything inside this I mean even the even year generic Jellybean 74 LS Logic seems to be Motorola so huge design when they just bought them in bulk. Yep, yep, Motorola as far as the eye can see. I Think the only thing that's not Motorola, of course is the memory up there. but geez there.

Oh no, no. NEC Roms Ah sorry. but I Believe on practically every other chip inside. this puppy is.

and the mains here is pretty how you're doing this. It's got this cardboard insulated flap, it's a key. you know it was par for the course back in the day. You know, you just don't find that sort of stuff these days.

And of course all your isolations done on there and then it comes off and you just got your regular linear regulators. Now, this switch-mode rubbish. and of course, your main five volt regulator up here. And this one actually doesn't switch the mains on the PCB The mains just go straight into the transformer so that's permanently hooked on.

and the power switch actually just switches the yeah secondary here. Now if we have a look at some of the date codes here: 14th Week 83 16-week 83 83 83 so it looks like guess what? we've got a 1983 vintage machine mid, you know, early to mid 83 vintage. So it's definitely one of the later units because this thing was almost discontinued by then. Now, if you have a look at the overall design here, it's basically are straight out of the Motorola application Note /r Datasheet: basic block diagram of a computer.

They just used the Motorola chipsets and they basically just slap the thing together. There was straight out of the application design was practically already done for them. The 6809 CPU was /m PU, the synchronous address multiplexer there, the Vdg, the video display generator, the Sixty-eight 47, and in the MC 1372 and they just whack on D ramp and that's it. The rest is just our the the Roma basically.

so it was just like an off-the-shelf design computer straight from Motorola So you know Tandy just went Me: thank you very much, we'll take that. So I Want to power this thing up and try it? but I don't have like a TV with an RFI input here in the lab anymore. So and that's the only output? we've got the RF output here. So I Thought that we'd build up a little circuit to try and tap off the composite video output because this thing's got to have composite video to feed into the RF tuner here in order to then modulate the RF and be received as a normal TV.
So it's certainly got the capability to do that. And sure enough, if you check online, there's various mods and things for adding a composite video output to the Coco here, but they don't seem to match up with what well the particular board I've got here. So the classic mod circuit says to tap off pin 12 of you 12 or for the new board or whatever that means I use 6 presumably still pin 12 of U6, but have a look at the chips so it obviously can't be you 12 there because that's just a 7 for LS sir, what is it? 273 and U6 is a seven for LSO - once again, both digital chips not that AHA that looks like it there. the MC 1372 that's you.

five on this particular board and there's the money shot inside the tuner for you to know fanboys I know you're out there. So if we actually have a look at pin 12 which is the are at which is normally the RF output of that 1372 look at that Bob's your uncle and then go up. there. you go.

We caught it. There is a classic. oh I Got some change in video information in there captured that That is your classic composite video signal. So this puppy is what it looks like.

It's working just fine. So that is pin 12 and also you can probably see there's just some. There's just a couple little budge boys over there going into the side of the RF tuner there and that also has the composite signal on there, but it looks like it's maybe slightly attenuated. Yeah, seems to be attenuated actually going into the tuner.

so I don't know what the difference is there. We should be able to tap off either of those though. I Suspect pin 12 of the chip. We're at 200 millivolts per division, so that's you know.

200, 400, 600, 800. That's like your traditional level for the composite video. Where is the one that's going to the modulator is? yeah? I don't think that's that great. So why it's attenuated like that? I'm not sure it's a requirement of the the tuner module there, but anyway, so let's try and tap off our pin 12 and see what happens now in theory: I don't think we actually need that transistor Darlington arrangement configuration to actually drive this.

We've got our coppers that signal because all that is is a common emitter follower that just drives the you know that dries the coax and doesn't affect the signal like it won't kill the RF output from here. You could use both at the same time for example, but I've just hacked in a cap in here because this does have a both of them have a very significant DC offset which you don't want. so I'm just a C couple in that into straight into the coax with nothing and into a little HDMI You know one of these little cheap eBay jobs and Tada? Look at that. We've got something.
It's not quite there, but you can see that it works. Extended Color basic copyright under license. Okay and hello. Well so it really doesn't like that at all.

and well. and I'm not sure whether or not it's because of the buffer or not I'd have to build up the Darlington transistor buffer and try it, but hey it, it's driving that coax and no problems. Well, at least we're getting something you know like I'm not sure whether or not this I haven't tried this decoder. it's just one of these eBay cheapies.

So I got no idea, but at least it's doing something. We can see that the computer still works Awesome! Check this out. If I actually reset the computer, Wait a second. There we go.

It almost came like it was perfect and then it just shifts off to the side so it could very well be something wrong with that little accomplice at the HDMI box and I powered it up and press to reset again. I was able to actually get a constant screen like this, but it's almost unreadable unfortunately. Okay, what I've hooked up now is a little jewel transistor to in double to double twos in a Darlington configuration. Just any meter follower got empowered from 5 volts over here tapping directly off the pin.

12 output video output of the 1327 there and through a 22 I'm Let's give it a go, shall we? Here we go? Gonna power it on and hello No oh it's gotta be that stupid HDMI converter thing. Alright I'm using one of these car rear vision display type things and there we go. That's not too shabby, but the colors are just horrible on this. They really are anyway.

we're back on the full monitor there I around with the maunder a bit and if I press that reset button I can actually get it to be stable as long as I You know, stand on one leg, hold my tongue at the right angle, and cross my fingers. Let's stick with that. That's alright. that's probably the best we're gonna yet.

So can anyone actually tell us? Did it really look this bad back in the day? Or is that just a modern you know issue with monitors and stuff like that cuz you know it's just horribly distorted? But yeah, I don't look at the flashing cursor. That's just horrible. Check it out. If we don't like that, we can change the background color I Don't know why it it comes up with still the green one at the top.

That's a bit ridiculous. What if we know if we hit reset it's just going to. yeah, it's just gonna go back to the green. but yeah, we can change it to any color we like.

Well, almost unbelievable. And of course it's all uppercase. but apparently obviously we can. press.

shift is zero to go into a lowercase mode and that's supposed to indicate uppercase and lowercase. The 1980s classic. What use is that really? All right? It's trying to see what this bad boy can do I put in a badass program? Look at this. We're gonna check out the color and the graphics capability of this thing.
Let's go all eight colors or whatever it's got I Look at the stunning graphics. Yes, that's the pixel resolution. That's as good as it gets. Ah, that was state of the art in 1980, wasn't it? Hmm.

and look at that paint drawing speed at the whopping what is it? 892 kilohertz clock rate. Fantastic. So there you have it. That's the Tandy slash Radio Shack Trs-80 Color Computer or affectionately known as the Cocoa.

And it was followed up by the Color Computer - and the Color Computer 3 before it was eventually discontinued. So the guy I hope you found that interesting. I'll link in about here at the end of the video. The original Trs-80 Color Computer one of the world's first home computers in 1977 I believe it was I've done a teardown and look at a work in version of one of those, so check it out so let us know if you had one of these things.

How long did you use it for? What model did you have? Did you upgrade to the Color Computer - The Cocoa? Three classic stuff. Those were the days. If you liked the video, please give it a big thumbs up because that always helps a lot. And as always, discuss down below catch you next time you.


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30 thoughts on “Eevblog #1021 – retro radio shack trs-80 color computer”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ten Minute Tokyo 2 says:

    So can you make a composite out direct from the 1732?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ten Minute Tokyo 2 says:

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  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars James Foote says:

    You could poke two addresses, one with 0 one with 0xff and kill the computer, I call it the original HCF "halt catch fire", I only burned one of these up at a radio shack, just to see if it would work, was not disappointed as the basic program ran with a timer before it set those registers and "FOOF" smoke started pouring out the top……I also found you could control the vertical and horizontal sync and burn up monitors by causing the flyback transistor to short out due to really large values in both which would make a very loud noise and a single BRIGHT dot in the center of the screen…fun times!

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars S.S.Viper says:

    Brother thanks for this…OMG…the memories…I had this..all the manuels…and I saved up for the Cassette Player… Oddly enough…I used to get "Programming Books" from RADIOSHACK to make games…However…What I didn't know is that the TAPES used to record the programming needed to be "GOLD or SILVER" top of the line cassettes… I didn't know this..and bought cheap tapes and unfortunately when I'd spend 3-4 programming and Back it up…Nothing backed up…So heart breaking….buuuut…Oddly enough…my career sort've started from this computer…When the computer finally died..my desk became my drawing table….As time moved on…I became a "MOTION DESIGNER"…both talents mixed into one…. So cool..so awesome…I wish I could smell that RadioShack smell again…LOL cheers

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars NSV says:

    First computer I ever programmed.
    Never owned one, but hung out at the local Radio Shack all the time.
    The manager saw me playing with the CoCo and looking up things in the program book.
    He actually paid me to make a little demo program with the name and address of the store and all 9 colors!
    I think I bought an RC car.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars john davis says:

    the circuit dave tried is crap

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RustyDog41 says:

    I was 12 years old when I was given this computer for Christmas. I learned to program and wrote my own paint program with it. I upgraded it to 32k by soldering memory chips onto it. I went on to write code for engineering applications and eventually became the manager of engineering software support for a large company. Never got a college degree, I learned from this computer and later an Amiga. Who would have thought a Christmas present would give me a long successful career? 😀

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars celuft says:

    I had all three and ran OS9, a Unix like operating system on the coco 3, I ran a coco emulator on my Windows machine back in the 1990’s

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Ed Axeman says:

    This is the one that started it all for me. Learning Basic language, buying program books, entering and running a program, then turn it off and start over. Using a little cassette deck to try to store programs, but often failed. I don't remember getting many of the cartridges though? Spent many teen age hours with this (fine?) machine. 🤦‍♂️

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Milliardo5 says:

    My very first computer, way back in '84 I think. Don't know where it is now…

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SmashAnarchy says:

    Mine came with 4k of RAM. I recall this distinctly because I eventually sent it back to the factory to get it upgraded to 16k, and I remember smugly thinking "You'll never need more than that!"

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SmashAnarchy says:

    It's just really offensive watching you trash talk my misspent youth. Trash 80, spongy chicklet keyboard. It's like watching you review a Model T Ford and saying "It don't compare to a Maserati now do it?"

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andrew Le says:

    I just picked this up from Craigslist and need to find some docs/reviews to see what I can do with it…

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Guillermo Linares says:

    I got relegated to art class in 9th grade, but didn't take me a lot of arguing to get my counselor to switch me to computer class. This was the first computer I laid my hands on and I've been pretty much hooked on it ever since. God bless those early pioneers; the world would not be the same without them.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lyle Johnson says:

    I bought one used to play with and used a cassette to save programs.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bruce Thompson says:

    My first computer. Peek & Poke to turn the Hi-Res screen on. The one had came with 4K of memory…4!..how much more did you need?

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Garcia says:

    in the late 90's i was given a boxed coco with the manuals, tape player and cables… i trashed it brutally for fun.. it's one of my regrets.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeff Galey says:

    My first Computer I remember reading the book on basic programming that came with it it had a funny little pictures inside of it a good monitor with a face on it then I learn extended basic I really enjoyed this little computer and actually made some money with it selling some programs I wrote Computer I remember reading the book on basic programming that came with it it had a funny little pictures inside of it a good monitor with a face on it then I learn extended basic I really enjoyed this little computer and actually made some money with it selling some programs I wrote ……❤️

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dennis#12 says:

    I used them all over the place as dedicated process controllers. back when dedicated process controllers were either non-existent, or simply not affordable….
    The key to my success in using them as controllers was due to my using the expansion slot to communicate with 6522 multipurpose i/o devices and the availability of cheaper static ram.
    The basic programs I wrote were a long list of jumps to subroutines communicating with and bringing in data from the external board and using the Basic software for analyzing the data and making the decisions.
    The external board did all the real time stuff and sent interrupts to the main computer when it had a batch of accumulated data to be processed.
    I never needed more than the basic 16 K or ram because the processor was directly accessing the static ram on the expansion board,
    Since the architecture allowed any memory address to be a place to get and store data I had a huge number of ports available for monitoring purposes and only used Tandy basic for the number crunching, process decisions, and generation reports output to printer or cassette.
    None of them had video monitors because I didn't need them.
    Small portable pocket sized tv sets were the rage back then and if I needed a display for a program change or process monitoring I just plugged one in.
    I did have to run them off tiny isolated UPS systems to keep them alive 24/7, and I know I should have pulled the supplies and ran off batteries being recharged by the AC,
    BUT….
    I did not want to modify them internally so if I had a failure I could replace one for $99 from the closest radio shack.
    BUT I NEVER HAD A FAILURE in the 5 years I was there, and heard that the new engineers pulled them out and tried to use K-pro computers to do the job, (not sure of the spelling of the computer name)
    Those engineers had no concept of doing things in 'real time' and failed miserably.
    Last I heard they were back to my original system any trying to buy up all the color computers they could find when radio shack discontinued them….LOL!

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rick Hunt says:

    I’ve done it all on the coco. Mine was vintage 1982 with 16 k and I upgraded it to 64k and replaced the keyboard with an expensive after market typewriter style one. I also disabled the Nmi Pin connection in the cartridge slot so games and otther applications couldn’t autostart without me selecting a switch. This allowed me to copy any cartridge based application to cassette and reload it in a different section of ram. I did lots of mods to the computer. I used a connector for direct composite video and sound. I used this computer so much I wore it completely out. I did all the os9 stuff as well. Once i discovered how to access the address and data buss on the connector. I would use peek and poke to send data to memory mapped devices under program control. This computer was my first venture into physical programing. Turning something on or off under program control was amazing back then. The joystick ports were another place to recieve input from the physical environment. With a CDS cell connected you could determine light intensity to somewhat of a degree.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris says:

    When I was 13 I mowed lawns all summer long (pre kickstarter) to save up for one of these puppies. Was my first love. Recently picked one up from eBay and now use it to run a Spectral Analyzer in my studio (and play games when procrastinating). Good times!

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steve Powell says:

    I absolutely loved this machine. I began with the Color Computer 1 as shown here and eventually upgraded to 2 and then 3. Loved them all! Started my 20+ years in IT. I cringed when he mocked it.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars wayne parris says:

    Ahhhhh memories! I bought one of the FIRST CoCos. 4k of mem was base and I UPGRADED to 16K! I paid in the ball park of $600 for it in 1979 as I seem to remember but 1980 is possible too … Because I upgraded to more ram, I had to order it and wait for it to be shipped! I remember making that "graphics program" that was the "bees knees" back then, it was COLOR! State of the art 6809, 16K of ram, color and you could connect to ANY TV! I had it connected to a early dot matrix printer and used an audio tape recorder. Software was slim to not much so if you wanted to do anything with the computer, you had to write the program yourself 😀 This was a big step up from the TRASH 80 mod 1 a buddy and I assembled in his room when we were in the Army. It came as a bag of parts and you had to solder it together yourself. I kept it for a few years then sold it and bought an IBM AT clone, 1 meg of memory! That was a very expensive upgrade too as there was a chip shortage and that PC cost me roughly $2500! It had a monitor, keyboard, MOUSE, modem and a 30 or 40 meg HARD DIRVE! I still have that motherboard, I paid so much for it, I converted it to wall art! It likely would fire up if connected up 😀

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Christopher says:

    This was my first computer. My parents bought it for me Christmas 1980. I later upgraded to a CoCo 2 with "multi-pak interface", floppy drives, RS-232 pak, speech/sound pak, etc., and finally a CoCo 3 running Microware OS-9, a pretty amazing OS for the day running on the 6809.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Shamino0 says:

    The deal with the two ROM chips is that one is standard BASIC and the second is Extended BASIC. CoCo's that only shipped with standard BASIC could be upgraded by adding the second ROM. The two versions is probably because they were mixing Rev1 if standard basic with Rev1.1 of Extended BASIC (or vice versa)

    The 1983 vintage sounds right because it has the motherboard switches for 64K. First-generation was 4K or 16K with Extended BASIC being an option for the 16K model. Later generations were offered with 32K and then 64K. Then it was discontinued to make room for the CoCo2.

    Yes, the video looked that bad. Black-on-green with the multi-color cursor. 32-column text. 256×192 pixel resolution. But remember that the competition at the time this was invented was an Apple II (40 column text, 280×192 resolution) or a Commodore PET (text-only display, monochrome).

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nate Bargmann says:

    My first computer was a CoCo 2 bought in November 1983 with 16k Extended Color Basic for $150 or so.

    Over the years I added a printer and floppy disk drive. I used it as terminal for packet radio from late 1987 until the summer of 1988 when I bought a PC XT clone. With the Coco 2 I used an office suite word processor to write our local radio club's newsletter. The most ambitious thing I did with it was upgrade the RAM to 64k myself. I never took the plunge into OS-9, though.

    In the '90s gave it to a friend in Oklahoma and he passed away some years later. It's probably rotting away in the Garfield County, OK landfill. 🙁

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Frank2131 says:

    I had one of those. I was able to upgrade the memory to 64K from the original 4K and added a different keyboard similar to modern one. Although the computer was very limited, it is what held my attention, got me started and gave me the interest to pursue a career in programming. I still have one and every couple of years I dig it out to remind me of what it was like back in the day. Great Video! Thank you.

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kmonyt says:

    I know I'm a little late to the comment game. Thanks for doing this video, Dave! Memory lane indeed. Grew up on this machine — or actually the CoCo 2. Had so much fun learning, which turned into a career. Given that Motorola likely designed this(their reference implementation?), using stock Motorola parts, and Bill Gates (appears he did this himself?!) wrote/ported the Extended / Color basic ROMs, did Tandy really contribute much from a technical creative side? I understand they would finance it, coordinate the effort, generate some documentation (not the basic docs though), and provide marketing and retailing outlets. Not a small effort, but looking at the PCB, where is their "mark?"

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GamedOut Gamer says:

    Thank you Dave. Good video. The Atari 8bits were so much better, IMO but before we got one, I learned Basic at school on the CoCo2 in '83. It was capable and usable. I still don't know how the teacher once loaded a program all the CoCo3's at once. A primitive network of some sort using the cassette port? The RS computers always came across as generic and the grey case style and whole feel of it even in this video still gives me that impression to this day. Maybe it's a matter of using one for years and then growing attached to it as I did the A8bit. It's easy to write these old computers off if you've never used one for years but if you did, the emotional attachment is still there no matter which brand/model it was. Cheers.

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 77tubuck says:

    "Did it really look this bad?" I think on the older dial TV the pixels would have bled a bit, so there was fuzz around them. So people would not have noticed is the font was distorted. The text background would have been green or amber. The following program will make the background amber temporary.
    5 CLS
    10 PRINT "PRESS ANY KEY TO CONTINUE"
    15 SCREEN 0,1
    20 IF INKEY$="" THEN 20
    There is probably a poke that will change the text. If anyone knows what it is please let me know. One other thing is it uses analog joysticks so one can plug a mouse into a joystick port.

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