Now Digital scopes have this reputation of being higher-noise than analog scopes, for example,, but that's not necessarily the case, it's just that with their update rate and capture, they're actually capable of displaying more of the noise than a traditional analog scope. You might think "Well, our problem is going to disappear if we use an analog scope", but no, it's not. Check it out,. let's have a look here.

It's hard to get this, I'm going to have to set the exposure. You can see the switching... You can see, look! We've still got switching noise in there. We've still got common-mode noise, even on our analog scope.

It's nothing to do with the scope at all,. it's inheren-- it's common mode noise being picked up through the mains input. Between The earth and the neutral. There We go, I've turned down the contrast on my camera and you can see the switching noise in there, it's actually quite significant.

That's 5 milliseconds per division with no 10X amplifier in there, and It's going to be hard to see on camera, but you can actually see the switching noise in there, it's actually quite significant. Exactly What we're seeing on the digital scope, except the digital scope, picks it up better by virtue of its sampling and greater persistence, effectively,, especially on the cheaper scopes.. But You can see that switching noise in there. So This is where digital scopes actually have an inherent advantage.

You're being foo-- You're effectively being fooled by your analog scope thinking that there's no-- you know,, you turn the intensity down, there we go, and you might think "oh, well,, you know, that looks clean as a whistle". "not a problem at all!", but you're actually getting that common-mode noise on there. Which You normally wouldn't see. Now, if I actually go, turn the timebase right up here, and move my horizontal position and turn that up, look,, there it is, you can actually, let's turn the...

there we go,. you can see it! There It is,. You can see that switching noise there, that common-mode switching noise. You Can't necessarily see it when it comes in here,.

you see it, it sort of. You know, just vanishes because you know-- it's-- the analog scope is not really capable of the persistence that a digital scope is capable of. But Look,, that's 5 millivolts per division,. There it is, I've got my 10X gain not-in You can see, look at that switching noise, it's exactly the same amplitude we get on our digital scope.

And Look, I'll do it in a single shot, I'll take it over, we're 5 millivolts per division there.. And There we go, it's the same thing. If We stop it, look,, we can see that amplitude is exactly the same. But our digital scope, because of the greater-- well, effectively because digital scopes aren't as "good" as analog scopes,.

the slower your updating scope, the greater you're going to actually see this noise. So If you've got a really super-fast updating scope with variable persistence and all that sort of magic, then you're going to see it less than you would on a lower-end digital scope, which shows all this stuff up. And You can see precisely that on this Rigol scope,. it's going to be very similar to this analog scope..

I've turned my intensity knob, here's my intensity knob, I've turned it all the way down to the bottom like this. See, we're getting this nice flat line, you can just see some switching components in there, okay? And Of course, when you turn the horizontal knob, it stops picking-- it stops refreshing and you can momentarily see the noise on there.. Let's turn it back, and if we turn up our intensity... Look, all that noise has magically appeared again! So, it's not that these digital scopes are inherently noisier than analog scopes,.

that's not the case. It's just that they're better off -- the sampling nature of the digital scope -- and the greater effective persistence on the screen is better at picking up these noises.. So, Really? Be careful when you claim that analog scopes,, you know,, they're much lower noise than digital scopes.. Not Only is that not necessarily true -- it can be in some circumstances -- but not necessarily true, but the fact is, you can miss a lot of stuff like this common-mode noise that you wouldn't normally get on this-- on-- that you could easily pick up with a digital scope.

So Just be careful when you're talking about noise in systems like this.