Hi, it's another oscilloscope video and it's going to be basically the same as the Uh O1 I did last time. but this is the techway slanch. uh DST 1102b. This is the 100 MHz model.

it's uh, more traditionally known as the 1062 B which is the 60 MHz version. and there's also the DST 12, 62b, the 200 MHz version. So we got middle of the range 100 MHz here. and yeah, 10 way Hch.

same thing the Hch ones are known as the DSO 5000 series. So the DSO 50 62b or Uh 51 62b so exactly the same Um scope I believe and there's a massive massive Thread about this scope. it's it's a couple of years old. Um, it's been around for a while and uh, it's one of the biggest threads on the evev blog Forum because yes, it has been hacked.

um up to 200. MHz So I believe um I'm not sure if it's still current I haven't been following in that thread, but it's absolutely massive. So I do believe you can hack the 62 MHz up to Uh 200 MHz if you want to which makes it great value or is it I don't know I haven't used one. That's what we're about to find out.

This is going to be one of those first impressions video Not quite a full review because I've only got this um for another uh, couple of hours before I have to, uh return it tomorrow. Um, unfortunately. So thanks to Charles at Trio Smart Cal they've got this one. They're selling this for 450.

Uh sorry this one for $4.99 Australian dollar? um I Think it's a very similar us, um price. It's basically um, the same Us or Australian and the 60 MHz model is 450 bucks. So very affordable. a little bit more than the uh classic Ryo um Ds1052e which we'll uh, try and compare it to because it does look, um, very similar.

um in terms of uh, size, shape, layout, um, feel. thickness of the thing is, um, pretty much um on par size and weight on par with the Ry Gold Ds1052e and basically no extra features. um, you know, in it at all. We've just got a USB on the back there.

it does have looks like it has, uh, some sort of networking, uh ethernet option perhaps. but uh, this one's certainly not. uh fitted with it. so very sparse, so very basic.

uh model scope. couple of flip out feet here, but uh, nothing special so you know. Bargain Basement scope. No, it doesn't have intensity.

uh, great display. like the um more Upm Market Riyo Ds2000 series for example. But for entry level scope, let's see how it Compares Oh, it's got to be better than that 01 piece of rubbish, surely. But hey, you never know.

So let's find out in terms of specs. uh, very similar as well, but the screen is much bigger. It's uh, well, it's they adverti it as like a HD screen. It's actually 800 by 480.

so um, pretty darn good. Much better than ryol uh DS uh 1052 e but uh. layout is very similar I Rather like the look and feel of this. If you've used a Ryo 1000 series, it'll be very familiar except they got the Dual vertical uh channels here lined up directly on the BNC whereas that's only a single on the Ryo for example.

Um, it's just. you know, much nicer and easier to use. Um, when you've just got two separate vertical controls like that I Really like it and then they've got dedicated horizontal here trigger over here. it's the colors look nice.

it doesn't look really toy like. um, you know it's not obviously top gray, but it certainly you know it. Um, seems quite nice. They've got looks like these buttons light up here for auto set, run, stop, and then all your utility uh measurement buttons around here.

So and uh yes, horizontal is pushable. uh, verticals are pushable vertical um for the uh fine adjust is not so I don't know uh if we can actually do uh uh verer adjustment on the vertical scale, find out. but the horizontal uh one is looks like it's Zoom you can go into a second time base. hopefully it's a dual window screen.

We'll find out and you can Center the horizontal you can trigger uh Center your trigger level there beautiful and your um Universal uh control up here. that uh pushes as well and they feel quite nice. There's no indents on those ones, but they feel a bit better than the o ones. These ones are indented so quite a nice uh feel to those.

Not too bad I Don't mind the look and feel of this at all. It's rather quite nice. Only a single set of uh function buttons on the screen which I prefer that o one was garbage with all the stuff down the bottom. ah, jumping all over the place.

hopeless so we'll see how the menus work on this. but 1 gig sample per second? Uh, but that's all you need for 100 or 200? uh MHz uh bandwidth one um, very basic functionality I think it does have segmented memory we'll find that out and 1 Meg sample memory. so not huge, but on um, par with the Ryo So pretty much um, it's direct competitor is the classic Ryo DS 1052 this one's about a CP This model's a couple of years old now I believe but the Ryol is like five plus years old now. So um, this one is newer so you'd expect to get a better screen and stuff.

so let's power it up. Oh by the way, on the bottom here, they got nice rubber um feet at the back there to help it stop sliding around and the flip up feet uh, lock into place quite well. The uh buttons yes I can push those no problems at all. They don't feel really stiff.

Um, they're all uh, membrane uh type so they're not tactile. cheap tactile ones as they were on the O1 um and single USB on the front and uh, that's it Bob's your uncle. Let's power this sucker up and uh, see and uh, wh? it's on. So let's turn it off and uh, we'll Power It Up And first thing I notice is a complete lack of noise.

Is there a fan in this thing? There may not be I can't hear it? No. I don't I don't think there's a fan in this thing folks. It is completely silent. awesome and that was fairly quick.

Boot up I think and I'm liking the look of the screen. It's got uh, nice, uh. nice fine font on there that really looks quite good. Impressed so far.

Aha, there is a grill for a fan, but I can see. you probably can't see it on video but I can see the hole through the metal work in there and the fan simply is not fitted at all. So I guess they decided. Well, um, maybe you know they designed in a fan clearly.

Um, but they decided in the end it wasn't needed when they went into production. So there you go. a silent scope just like the old uh Tech uh, TDS 210 series for example. So if you value a, um, a silent lab, oh, this is awesome.

Much better than the Ryo So we've powered it on here and we're automatically jumped into the Uh Channel One menu. There's a menu Onoff button here that works fairly well. so can. oh hey, that froze.

Oh there we go. That froze for a second. What's going on there? Channel One menu What? Oh no, sorry. I turned Channel One off duh.

Um, there's yeah, it does. The button does light up there, but it's uh, it's very weak. it's very weak. and Channel two? yeah, it lights up blue.

There we go. so let's have a look. vertical adjustment quite slow and laggy, but uh, nothing unusual for these. uh, low-end Scopes Let's go right down to the oh, we're down to 20 Ms per division so it must be set to times 10 it is.

I Don't mind this menu actually that's oh there you go menu on off. it gets the last one that, uh, popped up and it's automatically the time 10 I don't mind that at all. The menus are quite well laid out and uh, bandwidth limit is uh, off bandwidth limits on and shows up down here as like a 20 meg thing. ACDC it's got uh, ground o there we go.

so there's no software ground. Check that out. So let's let's go to DC here, right? We're down at the minimum we want Channel One menu there all right * 1 and DC So we're down at 2 MTS per division. Noise levels not too bad there at all.

Um I don't like I A There we go, It vanished. I Was going to say I don't like that popping up there. Um, it looks like we got a hardware uh, frequency presume. it's a hardware frequency counter.

Um, our trigger level is there. We can adjust our trigger level. That's nice. It shows.

It's just positive going Edge Um, it's really bandwidth limit off. Not bad at all. but let's so that's oh sorry, That's that's how noise. Oh there we go.

There's our DC level. There's our ground. So it's not just a software ground. so they must actually be switching in a real ground in there and that's the real noise floor of the scope.

I Don't mind that. um at all. cuz it's showing you the real noise floor. but uh, you can make arguments either way about where a Um software ground is better and it should just give you a single Pixel line.

all that sort of stuff. But eh, let's not argue that it's got 20 MHz bandwidth limit. It's all happening. and yes, it does have a fine mode.

There it is. So there's our fine. Yeah, there we go. 2 molts.

Looks like it goes up in 20 Nan volt, 20 microvolt, uh steps, nanov volts God and then four a no velocity keys on that at all. And one thing I don't mind is the uh offset there. The offset is a tiny little bit of offset at 2 MTS I Don't know whether or not it has a calibration routine, but as I step up the uh ver itical gain there like oh, it just heard a relay click from 200 to 500 Ms and uh, but the DC offset didn't uh shift so that's pretty good compared to like the 01 uh one we tested in the last video for example. That's a winner.

And of course it does invert as well. and that's all the basic operations you get for the vertical. but that's fine. And of course if you push the vertical buttons, they both jump back to the center.

Brilliant! And I don't mind this. look. save to USB You can't get any clearer than that. Brilliant.

Stick the stick in. Let's see if it saves it. Save in wave to USB Please wait a It looks like might be saving the full waveform so you can probably go into the utility successful to to save successful to save wave. Hm.

okay. System information firmware Update: Oh nice self calibration. There you go. Does have the self calibration um languages keypad beep if you want to to do that.

Oh Blue, we can change our oh sorry, we can change the uh oh There we go. If you don't like the color, there you go, go in and change it. I Think we'll stick to the default blue. it's not bad, don't mind it at all.

System Status Pass fail. Um, it doesn't have a past fail output unfortunately and uh, looks like you can do filtering. um filtering for what? I don't know, have to read the manual filter in? yeah, what type of filter? No idea. Um, that's right, it doesn't have a back button there.

That's a bit annoying. This is interesting. Look at this if: I go over here and I go into option on page three of the utility menu. Bode Assistant or Bod assistant For those who want to get really uptight about it I wonder what that is and what's wave? Let's go into Bod Assistant operation: Close open.

What doesn't do anything. There's a back button. No. there we go.

Some maybe or did I miss it before I Don't know. see some menus don't have a back button, some do H I don't know what that is but wave Channel 1 Channel 2 Flash USB Location A What did save the wave form I don't know, have to read the manual and for those who want to know which firmware version I'm uh running with there, it's got the hardware, uh, version, the software version, the serial number, the boot count. this scope's been booted up 11 times. how many times it's been upgraded? H There you go and an LCD front TS I guess is that the firmware version for the LCD I Don't know now.

unfortunately. here's a thing I don't like I like Scopes which tell you what sample rate they're actually operating at and the memory depth. Um, as you can see the top Bu status bar up here, it doesn't show any of that I Had to go into system status in the utility menu before it would tell me that's currently set to 40 Meg samples per second and there's 40,000 Uh dots and it's displaying uh 40,000 um dots. So there you go.

and if we go into the acquire menu yes, we can verify that there it is 40k 512k. Um, Curiously, we can't go to a Meg why not? Oh, because we're in dual Channel mode. There we go. If we turn off uh Channel 2 Gonski and I turn on, press the Acire.

No, we're in single Channel mode and we can't go to a Meg What? Unbelievable. that's ripped off and you can actually see the update rate difference 512k at the moment. Looks updating one to like, you know, twice a second or something like that. If we switch to 4K look at that much better.

Much faster updating. unlike the O1 Oh one, Meg H one Meg What was that? We had a message there let's have a look. one Meg Memory dep Unsupported in this mode. What? What? What mode are we in now I fit in my modulated sine wave here and I press the Uh Auto set button and I like the look of these Auto measurements that popped up Peak to Peak RMS frequency period.

Of course it couldn't Um, it couldn't detect that waveform automatically. It's too hard for it. No scope. I've I've tested has ever been able to do that.

but uh, let's see if we can't uh, get a trigger on that, huh? So yeah, we're 4K so we're going to Alias There There we go. 500 12K So just like in the previous video I showed, it's got equivalent time. uh, sampling if you want that real time normal Peak average. It's got your basic stuff.

Um, so it's not too bad at all if we go to our display menu here. Vectors and dots A I've seen worse than that for a dot display. Uh, maybe that will. uh oh.

I Like the look at the measurement menu. Check that out. Wow. Nice huge font there.

Beautiful. I Really like that. We'll play around with that in a minute. but uh, that looks really good.

What if we go to 512k? There we go. There's the dot mode you expect. Beautiful. There we go.

Why can't all Scopes Bloody well do that? Unbelievable. There we go. Vectors and dots and then if we single sequence that single shot capture. Sorry, There we go.

We yeah, we get a true dot display, right? Oh, there you go. There's no more dots out here. What happened to our dots m Is that a little bug? right at the fastest time? base there? Perhaps. But anyway, there you go.

That's exactly what you expect from a dot display. So if you turn on the Uh sample depth I assume it's got Um sign X on x I'm not sure I haven't read the manual. Um, but if it does, you can't turn it off. So there we go.

And by the way, the Uh contrast is actually the screen brightness and the screen does go up much much brighter than what we've uh, looked at here. But no, as I said, there is no variable um, intensity, uh, grading or anything like that. so there's no you know, dedicated knob for that analog like uh, waveform intensity display. You don't expect that on these.

uh 400 Buck Scopes You have to step up to the $800 Ry gold 2000 to get that and uh, dotted line. There's our there's our graticule. We can change that. There we go.

Dotted line. That's not bad and this is curious. What's this? Refresh rate here? Never seen this on a scope before. Auto 30 frames, 40 frames or 50 frames per second.

That's I presume the refresh rate of the screen. So why are they offering that? I don't know. Um, somebody's Pro I You can guarantee it's probably already been talked about on the EV blog Forum somewhere. oh sorry, sorry, it does have the waveform intensity display.

there. it is there. It is hidden away in the second uh display menu there. but of course it's uh, still not variable intensity, gradient or anything like that as we'll have a look at.

if we run that again, we'll we'll see that that's actually not the case. It's just irregular waveform. Oh bit of lag on that. So yeah, the processing is not very quick on this scope for sure, but it's actually not.

It's doing a pretty good job of actually uh triggering on that signal I Haven't even set up my delayed uh time base yet and it's triggering off that so I'm actually quite impressed by that. A lot of Scopes Do Not trigger on this 100% amplitude modulated S Wave but without putting in the uh delayed trigger in there. and let's go into the trigger menu and um Edge video pulse slope OT and it's got alternate trigger for those who like to uh, trigger off both channels little bit slow to sort of cycle. Oh no, I'll turn it trigger.

Ah, cuz we got to have channel two turned on. There we go. We saw that in the O1 as well. No, no, we still can't get to I'll turn it trigger.

Why not? That's unusual I Can't cycle through to that. Let me play around with this. Well, they've actually called a delay trigger. They've called it overtime.

Look at that. There we go. Overtime Delayed trigger. Unbelievable.

Well, the scope's actually Frozen there I was just adjusting this overtime figure and it's locked up folks. we have a lock up. Oh, run, Stop. No.

I'm getting no more response at all from this scope. Nothing complete. Lock up a, damn it. I Sort of starting to think this thing was okay, but ah man, could just be a fir.

You know it's obviously firmware. you know, maybe it's fixed in a a latest firmwar patch, but oh, that's just awful. I Do not want my test gear to lock up. It's just inexcusable.

I I I Don't care that it's 400 bucks, it shouldn't do it. See if we can make that happen again. I'm adjusting the overtime up. Yep, Yep.

once. I Guess yeah. 2.37 just locked up I I Had to reboot the scope there. By the way, there you go.

look at that reproducible Unbelievable. So yes, that overtime there, which I'm assuming is, uh, you know, delayed trigger mode. um, clearly. So anyway, it's does have a pulse trigger in.

it's got your normal filter in it's got uh, well. slope. I don't know what difference between pulse and slope was there, but I cannot get to the alternate trigger mode even with the second Channel turned on I Don't know what the deal is I Do not want to have to read the manual and by the way, um, why is it showing the window like the second? uh, time base up here? if we haven't turned on our second time base I Don't um, sort of understand that major window, minor window. There we go.

We're in. We're now in now Zoom mode. Although, expand in. Do it expand in both of them.

It's not very responsive. It's pretty slow. It's pretty slow, but it seems to be oh, there we go. Yeah.

I don't know what's going on there minor window. There we go there. We go. there, we go.

Not a problem. All right. it's a little bit slow. but anyway, it does have that dual waveform motor.

I Like that, it's telling you. you know times? 10? Zoom in there. second time Base: Beautiful. It's working nice.

Got the date time on there. great for uh, screen captures and uh, documentation and stuff like that. But yeah, it's a pretty slow scope. but uh I think the wave for well, um I Don't know how we can actually measure the waveform updates on this one because uh, it doesn't actually have a past file output.

There are some techniques to uh do it but I don't have the time to uh uh, muck around with those. but I can feed the uh pulse, uh front pulse uh signal in that that missing pulsing and at least compare it with other. Scopes Check out this. I'm now feeding in a 1 MHz uh sine wave and I'm just in the trigger level there and I can look see see that display just uh.

sort of updated with multiple waveforms there. I'm not sure what to see, look at that sort of studded and then uh, this is in uh uh Zoom mode or U you know, dual time base mode. So let's maybe we can just, uh, pop out of that. And by the way, you can just push the horizontal button here.

This is what the pushable knobs are great for and it'll just swap. You see? it just highlights the top display up there so we can uh, zoom in. Oh no, it's still doing that second time base. that doesn't I Expected that to change the top one if I go over there to select it, it's highlighted.

but I expect that to change that time base. It's ah, oh oh okay, right. Yes, it could only go down a certain limit because we're in a certain Zoom mode. Okay, yeah, fair enough.

No, that's fine. and in the horizontal menu, we have a play stop mode here I wonder if that's part of the uh, segmented memory option? cuz apparently this thing does have segmented memory. at least that's what I read on the website, so possibly that has something to do with it. It's got some markers in there, so yeah, I'm not sure.

Yeah, we're going to have to use V Z no knob to just trigger hold off. Yeah, thanks for that and check this out folks. Wave Four mode and XY Mode Brilliant on the same display. Are you kidding me? That's fantastic.

Well, it was fantastic until it locked up. No, the contrast still works. So what's going on here? but sort of. you know, nothing else seem seems to work.

Run Stop doesn't work. It's all it's all gone to the dogs. Really has unbelievable what? and look, it's showing the way. uh, the Um sample rate.

Now in Um XY mode. Oh no. Hang on. No run stops, decide to work.

No, it's like it's gone to a crawl so it's still sort of responsive. but like with a like 5sec lag or something like that. Well, it certainly didn't. Uh, lock up actually, because um, it's responsive to that.

So there's just maybe it's not designed to do that. But no, it should be because it's it's doing it in the window there. So um, yeah, I don't know. But when you do that in the Dual Window mode, um, have the Um XY and the YT as well.

It just seems unresponsive. so let's not play around with that at all. Let's try and go. Oh no, there we go.

Hang on. No yeah, little bit slow, but we're back back from the future. And interestingly, look, you can't actually hide. The menu tells you you can't hide it when in dual Window mode.

Why not? Um, maybe I'm a bit dumb, but I can't figure out how to get out of this dual Window mode horizontal menu here. Major: when I'm pressing my button to go between it I don't know I don't know I can't get out of it. What am I doing? Display: No How do I get here to begin with I forget don't I think I give up I'm pressing the default setup button. What a fail.

Anyway, let's press the auto set button. Oh God I Feel like a complete fire Anyway, look we're back. We're back here. We go.

Here's a that that's just a basic 1 MHz uh sine wave now and there we go. There's the hardware frequency counter. bang on. really nice.

Nice. This is the software frequency counter of course the on screen this measure menu is really light. Nice. We can use our knob here.

We can choose all of these two four six, eight different items. Let's say we wanted to change that bottom rise time one there and then we can uh to set. oh no there we go so we can modify that one and then we can choose all of these goodies. Look at that.

Fantastic. It's got them all. I like it. So that one there we can you know? Put let's say we wanted cyclic RMS down there we can add cyclic RMS Beautiful! Oh I Found it.

Look at this. just F7 button here under V0 look it turns the Dual Window mode off and on. Who the hell knew that? Ah, it's probably in the manual. So yeah, probably my dumb stupid ah self for not reading the manual.

But there we go. It turns on dual mode and turns on measurement. So I don't know. is that like a default uh button that you can do stuff with? Is it programmable I don't know.

but anyway, it allows me to get into H single and dual time boast mode or Zoom mode or whatever you want to call it h Thank goodness And here we go folks. Our one: Meg Memory depth has magically appeared. so I don't know what the hell mode this thing gets into. where it you know earlier in the video it said we couldn't get into one Meg uh memory depth because we're in that mode.

It's just it's crazy I don't know but you can see the waveform. update speed is yeah is much different there I'm doing this uh run pulse by the way and uh I can't see any runs in there at the moment I Really like this little horizontal position marker up here. It uh tells you how far you've moved the waveform obviously from the uh trigger point there. but I would have you know preferred that up the top so it doesn't waste it.

I mean why are we showing our second uh time base up here for the zoom mode And by the way, look at this. I've just noticed this right? If we adjust our time base right, look, let's look at the sequence here there is. It's not your traditional 125, it's two. Well let's go right down here.

We go: 2 48 What What the hell is going on? It's a 248 sequence instead of a traditional 125. Crazy why? there's a probe check uh button over here which calls up this menu which allows you to uh do some VAR stuff to check the probe out. Not bad. um Time 1 * 10 check finish.

Nice for compensating your scope probe. Anyway, let's see if we can find this run pole I've got my lroy uh demo board here and uh, let's run this sucker in uh run mode. There we we go on and we're going to have a one 100th um so every 100th waveform, we're going to get a run pulse out of this thing and I'm 4K memory depth there there it is lousy. 4K So it's going to have the fastest update rate it can get.

Let's turn the menu off there and I can't see any run pulses at all, but that may be because the persistence mode is not uh turned on. But anyway, let's let's change this thing from Auto Let's change this screen update rate. see if that matters. There we go.

it's faster. Look, it's Auto at the moment, change it to 30 frames that appears quicker. Aha, Look there we go. We're picking up our run pulse, check it out 40 frames.

it's faster and looks like it's faster. possibly faster. Again, 50 frames per second and we are picking up that run pulse that's probably equivalent to the Ryo 10006 Series in terms of uh capture rate. Now let's go into the acquire menu and let's um, uh sorry.

We'll go into the Uh display menu and we'll turn our persistence on so we'll be able to obviously See it'll stay there for a second. It doesn't Decay like the O1 uh scope does. It doesn't have a Uh Decay function I preferred the O1 in that respect where if it grabs it and then keeps it there in this case for 4 seconds, the persistence there we go, captured a couple of them and uh, if we can leave it there for infinite amount of time, of course we'll um, just overlay. uh, we'll capture all those and we'll uh put those in there.

but in that respect, it does have sort of. you know your variable uh persistence display here I'm not sure if you can if the Uh camera is captioning. yeah, you should be able to see it. I Mean it is a different intensity grading to your persistent signal, but obviously don't confuse that with true intensity graded anal log like display.

as I mentioned with the O1, it is not. It doesn't have that Uh capability at all. but as I said, it do does show that variable persistance with a Uh dimmed out display which is really nice so you can see the live waveform versus the Uh persistence there. And if so, that's rather interesting.

It seems to have the fastest update speed when we have our Auto persistence there. um I Think it's a bit slower. Maybe in the persistence mode Oh No Maybe Not maybe. there's not much in that, but it's certainly captures that so it's on par with the Ry Go there at 4K memory depth.

let's go to 40. There we go. We can definitely see it slowing and we're just not going to capture that at all. We're going to have a much hard it'll eventually find it.

but uh, you can see the waveform drop down and that's where it actually displayed because in the waveform updates is now so slow that we'll see this dip when it actually gets it and it will show for like you know, 0.1 of a second. That's only like you know, 8 frames a second or something like that. So that will. yeah, it just dips down there and of course 52k.

It's just, you know, Chug chug Chug Chug chug like that. but you leave it long enough. eh? One in 100 Cycles it's going to capture it on average. Of course you'll have to wait for 100 of those Cycles before it will actually capture one of those frames, but if it does, you'll see it drop down like we did before.

Not a problem. There's no real protection on that display. Don't really like that I can bang that with my fingernail and uh, poke poke. A lot of people don't like me poking the scope screen, but oh yeah, there it is.

We got it bang. captured it. So there you go. and of course one Meg is uh, even going to be worse Again, if I check our single mode, press the single sequence button.

You can do that directly from the Run Stop mode and then just bang bang bang bang again. So that works. a treat. Not a problem at all.

and I don't like the Min and I don't mind the minimum um depth of 4K. You know that's a reasonable compromise between update speed and memory depth though. I Have no idea why the auto set button is continually lit up here. It's like saying press me, press me or I'm continually in Auto set mode which of course it's not.

and if you compare it with the Ry go on normal memory depth here. um, then yeah. the Ry go is, uh, actually quicker. It's got a higher waveform update rates.

uh, waveform update? uh, per second on the same time base there. but uh, even if you put it to long memory, the Ryol is still picking it up better. So yeah, it still doesn't beat the old 5-year-old Ryol. But of course, as you can see with the wider screen it is actually you know it is better.

It's a better screen than the uh, you know than the ancient Rgo with its 320 by uh 240 screen. Now check this out: I'm using the Lroy demo board again and I'm generating a fast Edge Uh, it's about 700 p a seconds or something like that. So just a a regular fast pulse you might use for bandwidth or other measurements. And let's have a look at the Uh techway here and there's a response we're getting.

Yes, I've got a 50 ohm inline uh, terminated there and um, it is quite uh, ringy. Check out the uh ringing on that, the overshoot the undershoot and let's uh, compare that. this is 100 MHz bandwidth uh, scope of course. So let's compare that to the Ry Go here and see what we get.

Tada that's the Ryol. There we go. a very nice, uh, the Ryol 1052 e um and there's you know, a very uh, nice. There's no overshoot, there's no undershoot there, and we've got getting something in there.

A little thing happening in there. Well, let's take this over to the Ry Go 2000 series and see what we get. Yep, basically identical to the Uh Ryo 1000 series. Of course this is the 200 MHz one.

So if there was any, um, you know, termination issue or uh, something like that or actually signal Integrity issue, you'd expect the higher bandwidth would show it. but we're not actually uh, seeing that there. And as a fourth comparison, let's try our 500 MHz Agilant 3,000 series and Tada There we go look at that. Um, we do have some overshoot and some undershoot uh there.

presumably due to the high bandwidth. But and we're getting we're seeing more Fidelity in whatever. that little uh, glitchy thing there and there is. but once again, it doesn't look anything like the peaky response of the techway.

look at that. Not happy with that at all. So you know is that the you know the uh quality, the linearity of the front end I don't know, don't get a good vibe that's for sure. And and Just for kicks, we'll have a look at the O01 we just looked at last time and look at that.

Once again, this is a Um 300 MHz up bandwidth scope. so we expect to see a bit more Fidelity on there, but we don't. It's you know, a pretty good response compared to the techway. so this looks like there's something seriously wrong with that techway front end I Don't like it at all.

and if we change our memory depth here, we were, uh, operating on 4K memory depth before? let's change it to 40. Woohoo! Jumping all over the shop folks. Wow, Really, you got to be kidding me and equivalent time doesn't do anything there. and uh, Peak mode.

and of course we could uh, average that out and that's our average response there, but very, very peaky. And also, if you have a look at the trigger Jitter there I've turned infinite persistence on and it's actually, uh, quite quite substantial I'm uh, not impressed with that at all. I mean even the crappy O1 there has, uh, no visible um Jitter really on that signal. So I beats me? Well, we'll try and run the self calibration and see if that makes a difference.

but I don't think it's going to. Nope, didn't do a damn thing. So yeah, I think I've had enough with this thing. really I don't know what's this video? Been going for 30 40 minutes already and once again, just like the O1, there's more stuff I can test, but well, it's not actually I got to send the thing back.

but I just no. I' I've seen enough I just no, it's a bit of a fail. This one just like the O one. I don't get it.

I mean there's just ah, there's just so many little issues. they you know they're good. On the surface, sure, you might be able to hack this one up to uh 200 MHz you buy the 60 m Gz version. it's cheap, you hack it up, you get that bandwidth, but well, what? Good's that if it's got some shitty um, uh, input response I I don't know.

Ah, and it's just the little things we've had software firmware issues. we got trigger stability. it's jumping around. It's just it.

just it doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me. Just like the old one. Um, didn't so really. I you know it.

I can't give something like this a thumbs up when I don't get a good warm fuz feeling which you expect from a measurement tool, you got to have confidence in your measurement tool. So I don't know. it's barely even a thumbs sideways. It's practically a thumbs down again.

really. I I Just think there's better options down there in the lowcost market. I think I'd probably rather have the Ryo uh 1052 e I'm just more confident with it. but oh geez, you know as always, if you're after just you know, cheap and you've only got x amount to spend and you can hack it to 200 me Herz and well, you know you need the memory.

blah blah blah well okay, you know it. Yeah, it might do the job, but no, no. I'd be looking elsewhere folks really. And yes, spending double and getting something like the Ry Go 2000 series worth every cent.

chalk and cheese. but H yeah, I don't know the techway sland tech thing. Maybe some things can be fixed with uh, firmware issues? um tin head? uh from the Forum he um sent me a message um saying that this thing is, um, there's various below and above a certain serial number. There's all sorts of different builds and and uh, different uh, firmware versions and stuff like that.

but you know I couldn't get the alternate trigger going and it crashed on various things and oh I just oh no fail. And there's a few other things I didn't look at which he said don't don't work and stuff and it's just N I give up these cheap ass Scopes You know they sort of. ah, they're almost there. but they're not unbelievable Anyway, you get what you pay for folks and that is the techway sland DST whatever next.

So yes, there's already a uh, like I don't know a 100 page thread on the EV blog forum for this thing and well, all the info is there. I'm sure if you want to hack this thing or use it or complain about it or uh, figure out which firmware version is the best Yada, yada, yada by all means go there and there'll be a new thread. Of course for this particular video, if you want to check it out, it'll be linked down below. Oh look, wait, hang on.

I Managed to get to the alternate Trigger Look yes there we go. Beautiful. There it is. Channel one trigger, Channel two trigger.

Finally have no idea how it did it. have no idea how it was, how why it didn't work last time. Beats the crap out of me. Oh goodness, catch you next time.