Hi just wanted to do another video just playing around with the new or I Go 5000 series scope and it just maybe comparing it to some other scopes, doing some serial decoding and just playing around with some of the features of it. and I found right off the bat here. I was just playing around with some Spi decoding and I don't know what's going on here I Really? don't I mean just standard 2 channel mode I'm feeding in two signals here and you might think there's no signal there. they're both grounded.

Channel 1 and Channel 2. I've got my trigger point right in the middle here and it might actually come good while I'm actually saying this, but trust me, there's and it's It's refreshing, it's refreshing and it's no, it's not yet there. It is there. it is.

I swear I didn't touch it. These signals I'm feeding in SPI signal and they just magically appear. Look if I press run stop look they're gone right? like I'm in that you're like you can't see it because like my bad, I've got my studio lights installed. my old ones Anyway, get me up and running.

But yeah, it's in run mode and I can do single shot single shots. Fine, single shot will capture it every time. My trigger point is smack in the middle of that data and it just cannot. It's 20 Meg points at 2 gig samples a second and it just runs stop mode.

It's just nuts in that this. It's almost as if there's no signal there. and the volts per division doesn't actually matter. it's it.

Look, it's vanishing. but leave. They vanish in what is I swear it's just normal trigger, normal edge, trigger rising. Hold off it like like what what the hell is going on with this thing I Don't know it's got now.

it's come good has it? It's gonna make a fool out of me. but I cannot believe there's no signal there I plug those same two signals into any other scope. It is fine. There's something up with this.

Rygel 5 there. Cirie's it's it's just strange. And if I plug that exact same channel one signal over to here on the keysight 3000 There it is like you can see it coming up. It's like you know it's it's there.

There it is and I'm decoding the SPI But you know when I run that I actually see a signal I see a signal on that? There it is, right? it's it's infrequent. Maybe that you know that's probably the problem it does not like. For some reason it does not like long periods between trigger. When you get to a certain no, no, it's gone.

like where is it? That's just that's just nuts. Is it like like as some ridiculously slow update rate or something that's hardly ever seen. It doesn't feel like that. It feels like this just feels like there's something else going on.

So it's actually a seems to be a strange function of the because we're in auto mode. we're not in our normal mode. If you switch it into normal mode, let's go in here. have a look mode.

normal. Okay, it pops up and your data is fine, but but we put it in a single shots. Going to work of course. But we put it in that auto mode and there we go.

It's just do it. It might pop up occasionally, might not. So yeah, I did auto I Don't like it. Maybe it's just the particular frequency that I've got on this thing.

but if we try it on the keysight 3000, everything's hunky-dory Doesn't matter what time base we set it to like, you'll eventually see something in auto mode there. and of course you put this one in normal and it's going to work fine. and dandy too. But yeah, I is it just a beat frequency thing with the auto refresh I don't know and even the vendor bull 1054 Zed here is going to show it up more frequently.

So Ashley on you just working in normal mode? Fine? yeah. I know that's a usage thing. It's just like it just got me like I just thought it was weird I thought like there's no signal on my screen at all. There was nothing I couldn't see a thing yet.

any other scope I use at least see it periodically in auto mode. but yeah, anyway. all right. more investigation required.

And in the previous video I said this screen wasn't very bright And I after using it for a while yeah, it it is quite dim and it's almost. It's kind of like, almost a bit depressing to use now. I've I've set the same exposure here and I'll show you different scopes I'm not sure if this will show up on a camera or not, but the road and Schwartz's the winner has the biggest and brightest screen out of the bunch. much higher res to this.

Think sex on a stick. It's just beautiful. and even the old Roy Gold 1054 Zed has a yeah, you know I brought a screen on it and yes, that screen is glarey. but putting it side to side with the road.

and Schwarz it's the road Schwartz's probably Gloria it's like Crisper shows board detail. love it should be a cinder spec sheet in a screen. reflection Signal integrity. Anyway, I'm doing some my SPI serial decoding here.

so we go into the decoder. You got four different decoders. We've got it set up for right? Spi? We've got mode which is the timeout mode which allows you to just have the clock and the most data down here. So you've only got the two channels here, you can either have them coming from the analog or the digital source.

no problems whatsoever. So and you can specify your time out there so that's nice. Or if you have your chip select, of course you can choose your chip select on the third channel so there. But the good thing is you can do SPI decoding without chip select without sacrificing one of your analog channels if you're using the analog channels.

So using the 16 digital's already for other digital stuff, you can do a serial to Koh in addition to that. So I set that the timeout. You can set up your sources so you can set your threshold here for example. and it shows you your individual thresholds down here.

Yes, I don't have the scaling set for my times Tim Probe: No worries, on the threshold display, we can actually choose Ascii Hex for example. we can go in there and it gives us our hex. I Am not really a fan of having the D in here for data I Know it's data, but it's kind of annoying. if we go out it's not going to show us.

it did show us before our because it won't show hex if we actually go in. and ASCII Tada sorry rye, Go! but there's a Rohde Schwarz advertisement in here I Guess it just happens to have a pattern generator I did with SPI on it. Yeah, that's where I'm getting my signal source from if you're wondering. anyway.

um yeah, I did like I Don't like it's showing the D in there. it's kind of like, you know, annoying. So if you zoom out like that which of course we can see how both packets here then well it's kind of like, annoying. to read.

Not a fan of that. anyway. Can we actually drag that signal there? Yep, it doesn't actually drag with you though, but you know it's Look, it's it. stops decoding when you're doing the drag of course, so you know it's not that responsive.

I Don't know if it's a hardware or software decoding in the RAI Go I Have to check up on that one and we can set our Indian of course, most significant bit, least significant bit. No problems whatsoever. And of course, if we do a least significant bit, we're not going to be happy with that anymore. Hang on now.

Data seized or vanished Bua B Although what they do, what they do I was just moving it around. No, it's not decoding the data anymore. What the what? Why have I screwed something up? What if I I'm still in timeout mode. My sources are still said so what? what? And of course we can set the position.

but it stopped decoding. Why? it's It's updating like it's You know the dot is actually updating their. Well, the signals are updating. sorry, but the data is not updating.

Its going to show you the event table, but there's nothing damn will in it. Is this a Peb? CAC I'm just gonna like disable decoding and simply enable it again. Where's our data gone? I Don't get it. Is this a bug or is this a peb? CAC and I tried setting up a second decoder here and no data either.

anyway I Want to show you this If you try and position it further than that, you don't get anything. So I'm not sure whether an up? Yeah, you can't Actually, it's got nothing to do. a channel one. You can't actually go below that.

Why? Why can't I put it right down the bottom of the screen. That's just nuts. Look, you can go up there. That's fine.

Why does that limitation exist? Let's look at the same data on the road and Schwartzie I'll just plug it in. We're getting not nothing at the moment, it's detecting the clock and bingo pops up. Just love it how it's got all your frame information and then it. it's just decoded down there for you and then inside is very nice.

I Love that that put the secondary little clock and data there so that you don't have to view your actual signals up here. if you don't want to. they're actually down there. That's a nice little touch.

So rather than just give you the decode, they give you the signals as well so that's pretty neat. Couldn't have the phone in there, but there you go and check this out. I Just wanted to show here this: it's decoding data in real time I did not touch it decoding data and I can press my touch lock to get rid of it anyway. Watch this.

like look at the leg, look at the lag on that data compared to the compared to the signal. That's just nuts. Anyway, it does work fine and the decay. Let's go in and do our display and we can do our vent table and we vent table on and bingo there it is.

Format: Once again, we can do that in. ASCII There it is. Now here's a little thing. look: I can scroll that but it doesn't stay scrolled.

I'm turning the cursor knob. Something's happening there, but it's kind of like resetting to the top I cannot like, gotta stop it. Then it'll do it. So it's like it retrievers it every time.

I Guess like it's supposed to maybe, but you can argue that that's not. Well, we did. It's kind of annoying. like I need to sort of like in Nice be a just override that.

but I guess you could argue either way is correct. Anyway, we can then go into details like this although we've got nothing there. and then the payload is just the raw data like that in the two packets that we've actually decoded there. And yes, we can just move this around the screen.

So menu off. Here you go like we can't. We can't dock anything or anything fancy like that. The screen Real estate.

There's just none. the screen real estate to, you know, do something like that, but you can move it around. It's kind of jazzy so that's at 100 kilobits you'd expected to ID code that no problems. 250 kilobits.

see if it decodes that? Yeah, it sure don't Yep, no problems. Let's go up to one megabit which is the highest that the road and Schwarz can do. Yeah, there we go does that. No workers.

And as for I you, our data handles are just fine. no problems whatsoever. This is one Meg board and the data reserved asterisks: IDN question mark with a line feed at the end of it. You might recognize that and there you go.

It's got to stop. it's this is actually 8 data bits to stop bits and odd parity and at 1 Meg board handles it fine. As I said like it's a bit slow, but it's certainly not unusable. that's for sure.

What's FS Hang on I Just noticed that the data can get a bit screwy here. I was playing around with it. You might have seen it back then. I don't know what the deal was, but I yeah, look look there we go.

I'd I'd have screwed up tonight now. Dad has screwed up. it. doesn't like that at all.

We're going to go out. it's probably cuz it doesn't have the whole packet in memory. the whole thing in memory perhaps. but it's a bit odd.

Why DN No, it works like that. We're in normal triggering mode, but you saw it. I wasn't able to get some data that wasn't supposed to be there. That was weird.

Oh yeah, look da da s Oh in like that's just wrong. That's wrong. So what's going on there? but it comes good when I go out like that. So okay, maybe some more investigation required.

but yeah, does work though. I Didn't have the logic probes last time, but John South that I'm own has kindly sent me the Rygel probes for this thing. but it won't. They peel aid to one six or something.

They're called four hundred Three hundred Ninety nine Yankee bucks for the probes and that's pretty darn that pricey. But hey, let's take a look at it and as some other aspects, this won't be a for review. I've actually got to send this back in a couple of hours, so actually send the scope back so I won't have any longer. Unfortunately, um, has to be sent to Silicon Chip because they want to review it apparently.

So anyway, or it's going off somewhere else, they might have another unit for them anyway. Um, yeah, these new rival probes. they seem quite nice. that actually wanna be of course for a four hundred Yankee bucks.

but anyway, I can't Unfortunately, I cannot open them. They're like, you know, welded shut or whatever. I'd have to get the dremel to that and damage them and I have to give them back. So unfortunately I can't do a thing anyway.

One of the first interesting things is that there this is the one that goes into the scope and you can see that they're not the same pin count so they've got there at standard are point one each header of course. so you could in theory make your own probes up I Don't think there's going to be much else in there apart like I Don't think there's any differential drivers or anything like that, but don't quote me on that I think it's just these are a nominal hundred K You can see it. they're a nominal input impedance of a hundred K with eight puffs, they're eight Pico Farad's so yeah, a pretty standard logic analyzer probes. so in theory you could make you own so they probably just got the hundred K resistors in there and if you actually plug the thing in, it does actually auto detect and it didn't connected logic analyzer probe and it enables your logic analyzer.

and when you get the logic analyzer up, you get various options. Let's have a look. You can actually select a waveform. no big deal.

You can turn various groups off and on it, but then you can actually go in and turn individual traces off and on. So I've only got the first four channels turned on for my experiments here. You've got a position control which you can then nope, invalid configuration so it looks like you can only move them in groups I believe. So you can't move individual waveforms.

so I personally I got some waveform data there you can see I personally think they're very close together so that you know I'd like to see a larger differentiation and then that and I've got it set to the large size as you'll see so but you can group. You can have up to four different groups on this thing. Let's have a look sorry about the reflection on the screen and everything else that's it's not good for videoing and it's not the best screen to look at either. Um so yeah.

Anyway, it we've got large. Medium small is really small. but I guess if you're trying to screen cram everything on the screen like you know for analog waveforms and and you've got a bunch of digital's then you know you might want to write you small, medium and large And fortunately, the gap between the waveforms does not change. And as I said, I don't think there's a way to change that which is kind of annoying.

You can actually label them, which is quite nice. It looks like you've got a library of you know or your yep or avoid your basic stuff and things like that so you don't have to type them in. But because this is a touchscreen, we can label d0 ie. the log.

There we go. How do we accept? Okay, yeah, okay is not highlighted What? um okay, What? How yeah I want I want to call it Evie Look, why does itah let me what's going on. but that's ridiculous I Think you might have to actually turn the labels on first, which is pretty dumb. So II the blog? No, still can't do it.

Okay I selected it from the library address down here I think I had to did I have it selected there before? No, it's still not going to let me like. it looks like you've got to erase that first and then ee-vie blog and then you've got to click on that. and now we've got Eevblog. Okay, whatever.

I got it. Okay, what else can we do in here? We can groups and we can change our color of our hi-low and edge as well. So if you want what is that it, that's that. can't be the selection.

I Thought you'd be able to change it from a palette. Nope. unbelievable What? they're the selections. Why even bother having that at all? If that's if that's your selection, that's just crazy.

Ah, you might as well not even have that function. Unbelievable. And then you can set up your groups in there. but that's about it for that.

Yep, that's it for the logic analyzer functionality. All right. I am actually generating a pattern here so we can actually run this. I'm generating you know, a 1 megahertz counting pattern.

and I've noticed a few things already. A few issues. Let's check it out. So first one is, well.

single-shot capture that and we'll zoom in. Here's the weird thing, right idea this is: it's so hard to see. it's something. Camera/camcorder screen.

Um, the trigger point is here. It's right on D 0 there or the eevblog channel I Don't know why they still call it well. Ok, you can argue that you know D 0 you can still do that. Can we move that channel? By the way, we can select it, but we can't move channels.

That's a bit disappointing. You know what's the point of having a touchscreen? If you can't do that, you can't unselect it either by double clicking anyway. Look, my waveform is right in the middle. sorry if you can't see that it.

I can I have a hard time seeing that. my eyes too when it's red and highlighted. Anyway, the trigger point I am actually triggering off if we go into the trigger menu here. I'm actually triggering off edge edge triggering d0 Okay, it doesn't put up the label eevblog by the way.

it just puts d0 So why late labeling is just an on-screen thing? It'd be nice. You know I want to when I go to trigger I want to be able to select oh I want the clock line or I want something else? You know I want my labels to show up there so like, oh, it's almost why even bother labeling them I know for printouts and screen captures and stuff Anyway, I've got right. let's go rising edge like that. Anyway, it was set up to either.

So this single shot capture that. look every time I capture that d0 there's my trigger point. It is not there. It is not there.

It is not triggering and now it look. It decided to there. But when I do when look I'll take out my time base a bit further right. That looks like it's triggered.

But when I go in. look it shifted the waveform. What it's shifted. That my trigger point has not changed yet.

Somehow this waveform has. somehow this display, the displayed algorithm or whatever has decided that it's gonna put it in the middle. What on earth is going on there? That's just crazy. So I like it looks like it's below above a certain time base.

It looks okay. but when I get down below like that, Ops: jump back. Now it's not like no, there's something wrong there I want my trigger point to be exactly where I tell it. So I've changed my trigger to D 3 up here channel 3.

it's doing exactly the same thing. Look at that. it just does not trigger at the correct point. That way, it's just inexcusable.

Anyway, if I keep single-shot capturing that it seems to be consistent. so that's good. You'd expect to be consistent. I'm putting in a consistent count in 4-bit counter.

Now if I actually I go up to a 10 megahertz counter, we start to see a few issues here. Look at this, that's a problem. We've got some extra pulses there by the way. I'm generating this with and probing with the just the road and Schwarz to generate a pattern signal on there and I'm using the supplied probes.

By the way, you get with them, you get a whole bunch of ground leads like that with little ground flags on them. You get two packets of easy hooks which are you know your regular easy hooks. They're fine and dandy and all your little cables which are very thin and nice. They feel feel very nice I like the outer coating on that.

It's not just right like it feels like a more like a woven fabric kind of outer you know thing if you know what I'm talking about. Anyway, they come with these little molded Flags Obviously there's no point putting them on here like this. Obviously they're designed to go on this end and you know you stick them in there like that little identifier so they'd kind of nice. you know? I don't mind that at all.

so that's pretty good. but you know I don't want to be decent for 400 Yankee bucks anyway. and that's one of the things that you pay 400 US dollars for the probes, you can buy a very nice USB logic analyzer for 400 bucks. You know a complete standalone system with much more comprehensive you know, software and everything else and more like better capabilities and stuff.

So yeah, you know you'd really want the mixed signal capability. Granted, like nothing beats a mixed signal scope by mixing. I mean when you got logic analyzer and all of your analog stuff especially for channel like this all intermixed and triggered together. That's very nice for many applications that is like a seriously powerful tool except when it doesn't trigger on the correct location.

Unbelievable. Anyway, yet, mixed signal scopes I've done. Haven't done a video on the advantages and mixed signal scopes I think I have I have to link it in at the end. Um, anyway, look at these little glitches on here.

This isn't nice and I've set up my threshold. By the way, let's set up the threshold. here. you can do group thresholds.

This is done inside the scope. It's it would not. The threshold would not be done inside the probe. I'm absolutely sure that so I've got it set to like regular CMOS Like you know the three point three which is a 1.5 volt, one point, six, five volt threshold.

you know I can change it down to maybe? you know? let's change it down to nine hundred millivolts. see if that makes a difference a little bit. But look at this. I mean getting glitches right in the middle of that Wow that's not terrific, Is it? that's terrible? Muriel Whoa That that moved.

Why? Why did that not expand Look something wrong with your scope I Swear my I move in the position here like this. I Want to zoom in on that, right? I When you zoom in, you expect the window to expand around the center point and it is not doing that. Look, It's just. it's just vanished.

What on earth is going on there? Look when you move in like that, but when you move out past a certain threshold, it's gone. It's gone. Is that the same point? I Can't tell because it's all like just similar sequential see at night. look.

There's that. It's almost as if it's vanished. look. I'm seeing stuff there.

That's got to be the same point, surely. and there's no data showing in there. Is that some software artifact? Is that some sort of bug? I Know it's back. Look its back.

So at this time by setting, it's there. That time, by setting, it's not there. Go in again. it's there.

But it's not. It hasn't shifted properly like I'm putting that in the center. Okay, so it should expand around that and it's moved it again. There's something seriously wrong with this anyway.

I'm not sure why I'm getting those pulses. You know? Granted. Okay, we're using fairly long probes here, but you know it. They're the supplied probes they are.

you know, fairly long. but they're standard for like logic analyzers and stuff and it's not particularly quick. Okay, I change it back to one megahertz and it's not like a change. The frequency changes near the edge rate.

Now see, even at one megahertz, that's one megahertz. we're getting these runty pulses in here. Pinch and zoom to expand that even doesn't seem to work reliably Pinch and zoom right? So what I'm going to do is try my Keysight 3000 scope over here. and with that the key sites are logic probes, which are these little large Abhi's here, very similar length probes and everything else exactly the same test point.

So I got both hooked on there. And let's see if we get these little runt pulses Again, we're at 1 megahertz, we're only at 1 megahertz frequency, and let's go over here to the keysight and here we go. Let's single shot capture that. You can see that there's absolutely no issues there whatsoever, so I'll set the thresholds up the same.

So I've got that set to Y stand at one point four volts TTL I'll do the same on the right off there. we go at the same one point 4 volts there and let's see if we get our spurious data. It hasn't come back, but I have seen it at one point four volts before. On one megahertz, let's go to 10 10 megahertz.

Okay, seems to come good I'm not seeing that anymore. is that because of the extra probing on there? but we are seeing look these little these little pulses here. and once again, if we go in there and try and expand that, whereas if we do the exact same thing over here on the keysight, I'm triggering off channel 3 up here d3 and like it expands exactly how you'd expect it to expand. No problems whatsoever.

and there's no multiple pulses on there at all. I'm just not seeing it. We're probing the exact same point and the Rye goal shows it was same threshold level, the Rye goals showing multiple pulses on the edge. So there's some sort of signal fidelity thing wrong with the Rye goal.

the probe like the the actual probes and cells, the input of the of the input circuitry of the Rye goal. I Don't know what's going on, but something's giving multiple pulses there which are definitely not there. and I'm not just not seeing that. Let's go up all the way with LBJ up to maximum fifty megahertz.

Now there we go. That's 50 megahertz count rate. No problems, No multiple pulses, no nothing. As a bit of you know timing issue between channels, which you'd expect a little bit of variation there.

let's go over to the right: Oh Exact same signal. multiple pulses. Look at that. multiple pulses on two different channels.

It's the same threshold voltage, one point, four volts. Lister's consistent. That's seen that since it does seem consistent Wow But I Wouldn't trust this thing at all. That's just you know.

Okay, if you see multiple pulses, that's fine. It could be a probing and all sorts of stuff like that, but two identical logic analyzers with the same threshold and the same probe length and the same probing technique. one showing multiple pulses, the other isn't Yeah, Sutton's up and again and watch this. David Copperfield Magic.

We've got pulses. Their pulses. They're expand. The time-based pulses are still.

Their pulses are gone. Over here is just incredible. Look here like they're gone at this time base. They're still here.

It's still here. But it's shifted. Okay, so here and here on the rising edge. Now the What? The falling edge? Da no, it shifted again.

What? Ah, cuz the waveforms shifted now. I Give up for reference. Hardware Version 1.0 0.0 Oh, that's kind of disturbing the tear down, shall we? A bigger number than that reference my video I Think you'll find it might Anyway, Firmware Version 1.0 1.0 2.0 3 I Have an update. Let's update the firmware.

see if makes the difference. Let's just check out the firmware. update. It's reading the disk so everything's hunky-dory is going to utility or is it system more? I'm like quick-setting know about how do I Update: Bueller Bueller Update the firmware.

Oh by the way I also got the 200 Meg in option install. here we go. Invalid License What? wha-wha-wha I Anyway Oh retry left 7 What? 7 retries prefer What locks me out. It's going to think that little license is going to lock me out.

So there you go. Is that some sort of protection hacking protection thing? - you've only got so many shots at installing a license I Gave him my serial number and they gave me a license file back and it was supposed to enable the enable the 200 Meg option. But anyway, so yeah, the 200 Meg points which for some reason isn't installed. Why? you'd bother like it's a hundred Meg point scope.

Why? like just give people the full 200 mega instead of the hundred? make it's it's ridiculous. Anyway, Ok, so I'm going to assume that the Hawaii you load the firmware is to simply go into the storage setup disk. Here we go. Jodi Aha license.

JAL There we go. So let's install that. that would nope, rename delete new folder. Nope.

Nope. Well how do you install the new firmware? Ah, sadly, John just came to pick up here I Go 5,000 so that's the end of that I will eventually I get it back I Think about Air. Yeah it's got to go to Silicon Chip. plus some other people want it I think it might still be the only one in the country is it? anyway? I thought I'd try out the 7000 series Rygel which I still got and I've got logic probes for it.

They are nicer. It is a different interface. It's got that PCI interface on it. It is much nicer.

it does these probes in Still a lot more confidence in me. So it's got these extenders and I assume that they're just our feed straight through. What these are good for is if you want to keep your probes permanently attached to you, your circuit and all that sort of stuff you know without having to because it takes a lot of time to you know probe like 16 channels and send all up and all that sort of just so you can leave it attached to this and then you can just disconnect this part of it and take your scope or you know or take your lead or go somewhere else. So I guess that's kind of handy anyway.

So I'm probing doing exactly the same thing probing. These are the wires that you actually know the leads you actually get with the 7000. They just they feel better than the 5000 so it instills more confidence in you anyway. I'm generating the 50 megahertz the same 50 megahertz counting signal and this one works a treat.

Here we go: single shock capture run and this one is just fine and dandy. And look, when you expand the time base, I'm triggering off D3 there. When you expand the time base, it works exactly as you expect. It's the same as what we are see on the keysight.

There's a little bit of jitter there, That's that's normal at 50 megahertz. that's probably some sample, just some time in jitta. Whether or not it's coming from the road and Schwartz generator or whether or not it's like a sample. it looks it's jumping in quantized steps there.

So I'd like to think that that's just you know as synchronous because we're in time in mode. we're not in state analysis mode. State would be different if we were synchronizing something in an external clock. We're not.

We're in timing analysis mode, so that is a good example actually. of the single sample rate. you know, inherent jitter you could potentially get in a synchronous timing logic app by using them. By timing I mean timing analysis of a logic analyzers? I'm sure I've done a video on that somewhere.

Anyway, it works fine. it zooms in, there's no extra glitches. I've got the the thresholds set to the same 1 point 4 volts. Everything's everything's hunky-dory So there you go.

The ROI Goal 7000 works fine. There's something up with the RAI Goal 5000, but I do have an early, possibly pre-production unit and pre production software still couldn't figure out how to do that. A firmware upgrade John didn't know offhand. So yeah, and he I thinks he thinks he may have generated that license file incorrectly.

So anyway, there you go. Yeah, I got 5,000 has issues I'm sure though. you know eventually I sort them out. but that's that logic analyzer one that was.

Yeah, it's really kind of nasty. So right. I'll need to look into that one anyway. If you've got one of those rygar 5 thousands and you can duplicate our that, please let us know down below.

catch you next time.