Yes, wireless power is BACK! And this time they are targetting gaming rigs.
Quaze want to power gaming rigs up to 500W with 15MHz resonant RF wireless desktop power. Let's take a look! How much is marketing hype? Place your bets now...
https://www.quazetech.com/
Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTwzKBM7ybw
Focus Demo Day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJW3jGLWqFc
https://zumtl.com/en/news/demo-day-focus-decouvrez-la-nouvelle-cohorte-dentrepreneurs/
https://www.laptopmag.com/au/features/quaze-maingear
Energous: https://liesandstartuppr.blogspot.com/2017/12/energous-it-just-keeps-getting-worse.html
Patents:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11133714B1/
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11374438B2/
00:00 - Quaze desktop wireless power. We've heard this before.
02:38 - Targetting the gamer market through Maingear
05:49 - Laptop mag interview and demo
08:41 - What's that plugpack?
16:16 - Is it safe?
17:08 - Zu Focus demo day video
18:24 - The rules are hard coded in our mind (for a reason)
20:18 - It's all thanks to gravity!
22:45 - Do gamers actually need or want this?
25:07 - Are you with me? Are you seeing it? No, not really.
26:18 - Phone charging
27:55 - Astonishing isn't it. Walls, floors, ceilings! Yeah, nah.
30:37 - Unlimited potential!
32:46 - A look at the patents and the efficiency numbers
39:41 - Conclusion
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Hi, Yes, it's another year. and yes, it's another wireless power transfer technology marketing hype. so let's take a look at it. Thank you very much Nick Schwartz on the Twitters, Um for clue me on this one.

Quays has developed a technology that will radically change the way we power devices in the future. After being blown away by the demo in person, someone and I knew that we would have to help bring this technology to market because it's so good. Let's take a look at it. But where have we seen this before? Oh yeah.

uh. remember Jimmy, Gmao or whatever it's called? Uh, we charge? uh, Wiggle of course. And of course the classic U-beam Um and wiggle. Again, I've busted and like there's probably more you remember.

Um, Energis of course. that. uh, the lies. damn lies and startup Pr blog? Um has uh, busted many, many times.

And yeah, they're all the same. And they actually, interestingly, Quays actually compare themselves to these. so we'll take a look at that. So what is quas? Um, it's featured in Laptop Mag here.

I don't know. Laptop Meg? I don't know. does anyone actually read this sort of thing? I don't know. Um.

and it was featured on other pages as well. I think they all just, I don't know if they all copied the same article. Certainly, laptop mag. And they've actually done a video.

They've done a sit-down video with the one of like the Ceo or the founder or whatever. And then there's this guy here who's um, the Ceo or founder or whatever, of, uh, main gear. I've never heard of, them because I'm not really into the Pc side of things these days. but they're a big, like, uh, desktop Pc maker apparently.

and you know they make all sorts of, you know, Pc related type stuff. Um, and they're actually invested in Quays, Which is this, uh, new whiz-bang technology. The passionate dreams of Nikola Tesla are about to become a reality. and just remember that all of these actually work.

They do actually work, but the devil is in the detail and the practicality of these things. and well, you know this claims a lot. Let's check it out and see how much down the hype train they actually are here. Look, I have no doubt that this actually works and they've got some tech and yes, we'll check out their patterns.

Um, and yeah, I'm sure it like these things do actually light up wirelessly and stuff like that. There's nothing new here. There's nothing groundbreaking about wireless power transfer, and as we'll see in here, Quays are actually specifically targeting the gamer market. Um, that's their.

That's what claimed to be their niche of how they're gonna make it when all the others that we've seen here including energies, they're all just failed, dismally right? The wireless power transfer thing. The only thing that's really been successful and has come an industry standard is the uh Chi wireless uh charger thing which is in almost every mobile phone and you know you can get up to like you know, ten tens of watts or whatever, uh, wireless, uh, power transfer into your phone. but you've gotta. The trick is, you've gotta, uh, physically locate it.
You know it's pretty specific. It's got to be within like a couple of centimeters or something like that for you know it to really work well and to have decent efficiency. Which uh, Qi charging actually is. But as I mentioned in my uh U-beam uh debunking video here their competition, which is the Uh Chi charger, It's already built into phones, It's already very efficient and it's already cheap.

You can buy the charger for like a couple of bucks delivered. Um, from China. It's absolutely nuts, right? So yeah, that's the competition. So anyway, let's check out the marketing hype on this thing.

So we've got the article. Look, I won't go through it a huge amount. It's better if we simply watch the videos uh that we've got and um, yeah. Anyway, it all centers around this demo that we've got that will.

It's better if we watch the video, but they are claiming eliminate wires with true wireless power delivery. Yeah, all the other ones do that too. Patented surface that shapes a planar magnetic field. And that's their.

big claim to fame is that they can put like they're deliberately targeting as their first thing, a table or a thing that goes under an existing table. Unlike this matte type thing, I don't know, we can't actually see it underneath the bottom. Actually, there's that I can find anyway. There's no photos of the actual tech itself or efficiency data or anything like that.

But anyway, there's some data in the patterns which we'll take a look at. But yeah, anyway, it works by their own emission. like a couple of inches above. So if you're anywhere over the table within a couple of inches of the surface, it's going to charge.

But at what efficiency? Yeah, the devil's in that detail, isn't It provides wireless power transmission over any non-metallic surface regardless of size. Multi-point and multi-device wireless charging. Yeah, nothing new there. Up to 500 watts of power delivery.

Really volumetric power devices three or four inches above the charging surface. Recently tested in laboratories for safety regulation. meets the requirements. Yeah, it's wireless charging.

although 500 watts as we'll see 15 megahertz. That's pretty juicy. So in this demo, they'll power in a monitor, a phone, a laptop, this, uh, I don't know. it's Rgb pad, whatever the heck that is, and some like, uh, wireless lights and a plasma ball here all on there.

Um, a charging table supposedly. But anyway, let's let's go to the video tape, shall we? Because that's the most interesting bit. But this is what they're trying to target is the gaming market. They want to try and eliminate all wires.

so they want to power your Big Pc. Grunty Gaming Pc Here, Your Grunty gaming monitor. They want to power your keyboard, your Moose, and your wireless headphones. And yeah, I don't know what that matters.
I'm not into gaming, whatever. So let's start off with this: uh, Laptop Mag video here. So Main Gear Ceo Wallace Santos, um, and Cto sorry, Chief Technology Officer Philippe Blinger and Cso Francis Roy of Quays demonstrate and discuss the life change in tech they have developed. It's life-changing Remember this? It's like when you've got your gaming rig there.

It is so life-changing that you get rid of those power chords. Ah, oh, just think about it. stuff for wet dreams. I'll skip any boring details you can watch down below.

I'm Shirelle Smith, editor-in-chief of Laptop Mag, and I am here at Main Gear asking the hard questions. Just seeing some amazing cutting edge, bleeding edge whatever you want to call it technology technology that could potentially change. Uh, the way we interact with mobile computing. Um, to my right, I am sitting here with the main man, the main guy of Maine Gear.

Uh, Wallace Santos and sisters, right? I am sitting with Francois Roy, Uh, Chief Strategy Officer of Quaid Technologies. Hey guys, Mark Anthony Ramirez here for Laptop Mag and today we are inside the secret laboratory at Main Gear. It's not really the secret laboratory, but for me, it's the secret laboratory. And we're here with these two gentlemen, Phillipe and Francis from Quays and they've come out with some new technology and me here as a partner, technology team and support system, right? And we're going to talk about it.

We're going to talk about it. Are we going to ask them the hard questions? What is the power delivery system that you guys have created? What's the craze behind Quays? Just how do you see that? Like when you say surfaces? Do you mean just like tables? I mean, could we have a quiz in the wall? Could be like are we going to power an entire room with crates because that to me seems like we'd be also like saving money on copper wiring. Really, How is that going to work? Well, Eventually, we're going to be able to close your entire house, but for now, we're working with desks. That's going to be our first approach.

We're really shaping the magnetic field around the surface mark, but we can do three to four inches from the surface to supply energy. The concept is really: you're close to the surface. You have energy if you're here. Nothing needs energy right here.

Any device that use electrical power within the house can be powered wirelessly with our technology. So basically I could just throw a Tv on that table. and it would, yeah, work exactly. I wouldn't have to plug it into it.

So why don't we do that Tv? Let's do that. Show us what you've got for living. So basically we have three components. Oh okay.

first thing, have a look down there. This is their plug pack, right? Um, that doesn't look like a 500 watt plug pack to me. So I take it that their demo now which is under this table. It's not embedded into this table.
I think it's just like stuck on the bottom or whatever. Um, yeah, that's not a 500 watt power brick. So so there you go. So any efficiency calculations we talk about later.

Uh, I'm absolutely sure. And please, Quays can absolutely correct me in the comments down below. Um, that any efficiency calculations will be done after won't include this plug pack or whatever power source. It'll be literally the power going into the the actual oscillation circuitry, the 15 megahertz, uh, resonant oscillated coil system here, and the actual energy coming out the other end, or power coming out the other end.

So yeah, it's this is not 500 watts. What is that like? a 100 watts 50 watts something like that? Tops. We have a transmitter that is underneath the table so you can just see something there. So yeah, it's like stuck out of the table.

There's nothing special about this table. It's just a table. but we don't get to see any of this. Of course they hide it.

It's it's A. It's a typical startup smoke and mirrors demo, right? They've got specific things they want to show you to try and get all the investment and the hype and everything else. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's just how the industry works underneath the table.

This one is plugged within the wall and convert the power to our technology. After that we have which is just perfect. You need any existing surfaces, We have receivers that are able to take our energy and convert that to what you need for those devices. I don't know if that mat down there is.

what. Like is actually the thing. Like they've got this sort of there there it is. So I I assume that's like the big flat coil in their pickup and I assume that they've embedded it like the electronics in the stem of it.

or something. I can't Maybe it's you know. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there's a little hollow in the bottom of that stem.

I don't know how they've obviously modified this monitor, which is fine. You know there's nothing wrong with that. That's the whole idea about in getting an investment like this from a company like main gear as they're supposed to like modify their products to embed your electronics in them. Um, to actually enable this sort of stuff.

So and and he pressed the button on the on the back there. I'm not not sure if you see it but there was there's something like right in the middle there that turned on. So my first question here. If I was the tech journalist in this room I would have said well do you have any buffer battery in that thing like is it actually like is it just getting power from the coil and and that's it Or is there like a buffer battery inside this thing? Don't know, Not answered.

And all of those devices are integrated within our with our technology. Uh, once again, whatever And then got these little jars which will have a little receiver in there and I'm sure they all work legit. We can you know provide power to any kind of device you have in mind. For example, here it's a cell phone and even with my hand now they claim to be able to like show this and we'll have a look at this up close later.
but I don't see how that's got like I am like it's got a case on it right? Is that a regular iphone? I ask this in Twitter but is this a regular iphone and with a with their case I can't imagine that maybe they have gotten this far that they can integrate that and it's got one of those flat flex Apple connector thingies that can go right angle and be quite flush and everything. But if that's the case I mean but once again we get no detail on any of this so I don't know how much this is smoke and mirrors you can put it for. like for example and there's the ipad, it just shows the battery icon is that show charging up there? I I don't know. See, we don't have enough details and they just throw a couple of other little flashes around she and what you guys are doing.

Yeah, so let's say like other wireless charging like uh, Chi? So we asked about Chi. Yeah, so basically the main difference, for example, cheats what you already got with within most cell phones. Uh, it's way lower powers because otherwise it won't be safe for human interaction. It's also smaller surface.

So how is there one safer at Uh. 500 watts and 15 megahertz? Um, Chi is like a couple hundred Kilohertz or something like that. Um, how is there one safer at a higher power level? It's all Elf Extreme. you know, Very extremely low frequency.

Well, there are no, it's Rf actually. Uh, 15 megahertz. The Chi is like very low frequency. Basically with your cell phone you need to be exactly like within some centimeters.

In our case, we were able to bring the power way higher. Legitimate nation. So all of the devices can be with charge wirelessly and in our case we can get in the range of 500 500 watts. Not with that plug pack buddy, you're not.

That's 500 watts total for the whole area. Yeah, exactly the whole surface. If you have a device. if you have uh, enough device to 1500.

our vision is we start small. But eventually what we really want our tech to happen is to get to everything electrical and electronic in our lives. No, no we don't because this is it comes down to the last thing the world needs. As I've mentioned in previous videos on this last thing the world needs is for a less efficient charging technology for everything.

Imagine if everyone powered their computers with stuff like this. their Tvs, everything around their home using this, which is obviously going to be less efficient than direct cables. And no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. it's we want this to remain niche.
No, it'll destroy the planet if we everyone suddenly starts using less efficient wireless power charge powering. It's not just charging, this is powering all day, every day. You know how long those gamer kitties spend streaming their bloody live stream to Twitch or whatever it's like. they don't even sleep like we want to make sure that this gets into our lives and it's not stuck with one manufacturer, not stuck with one manufacturer.

Uh, well, they're talking about main gear here. Um, but which Maggie is not an exclusive? They'll license it to anyone. You can probably go talk to them and they'll you know, and they'll happily, um, give you the tech to embed into your product. Um, and but no, you're stuck with their proprietary technology.

Yeah, it's like, you know if you want to use wireless, you got to use ours. It's not. You know. Chi is like you can just buy it from anyone.

So yeah, but they're one I I suspect not being a gamer. You want your setup. You want your setup to look beautiful. So to get rid of all the cables, is this technology safe for people? Is it? So basically, even before doing the demonstration, we did go through all the certification measurements to make sure it's safe how regular Africans interact with the human body and we pass all of those requirements even more.

And we also choose a physical principle that was able to provide power safely from this really small device small power to the really big device big powers. Because we don't want our technology to be just for toys, we want it to be everywhere in the house. Within the next year or so that is, you'll be able to get your gaming rig fully wireless. And there's another video here which is a focus demo day from Quays.

And this is Zoo I from what I gather. they ran some um like startup course, startup conference or something like that and Quays was one of the companies who attended this Um and I don't know, learned. you know, sales techniques. You know, development techniques, startup techniques, and stuff like that.

And Quays is one of their Um students so to speak. Um, something like that. And this is the video from them. It's like pretty big.

It's got like it's got lots of associations. Hello stuff! My name is Xavier and I'm the Ceo of Quest Technology and today I'm really happy to present you our Game Changer Technology Game changer. I'd like to introduce you to my colleague Francis that gonna present to you what really is Quest Technology. They say the world has unbreakable rules, that gravity keeps things on the ground, the water is wet, and we access power through cables.

Those rules have an impact on the way we live our lives, but also on the way we design products at Quays. We're going to break one of those rules and that's how we access power. My name is Frances Hua and I'm the Chief strategy Officer at Quest Technologies. The rules by which we access power are so hard-coded in our minds and even when we imagine things, we imagine them around wires Have a look at the Millennium Falcon right here, out of George Lucas imagination.
Yet if you look closely, there's enough wires in there to go around the world. Two times. We can't think without that rule. We can't imagine without it.

But a lot of people try to hack the rule. As a matter of fact, more than a billion dollars been invested in doing just that. A billion dollars has been invested in all of these companies. What do they have to show for themselves? Where is and energise is the biggest right? They're listed on the Um.

Nasdaq right? and they're just share prices in the toilet because they're not viable As Paul Reynolds here, who was, um, ex-vice President of Engineering at U-beam and no less has basically debunked, um, the energist thing. many, many posts on it. But anyway, so we charge like I've busted that one We tricity. I'm not sure if Paul's done that, but I've busted you beam.

Uh, glyph. I haven't looked at that one and I don't know who that is, but a billion dollars has been invested in these who's using wireless power apart from Qi? Hmm. anyone? Bueller Beulah Beulah. So they claim the issues are: small Power transfer zone.

Um, well, no. a lot of these are have a bigger like, this is only a couple of inches right. And like the other techs have, the whole idea is at Power Wireless Power at a distance. Now they came across some roadblocks and those roadblocks often made their product unpractical, unsafe, and with very limited real life application.

In other words, nobody was truly able to break the rule. Now, thanks to gravity, why is Ken everything we use in life is touching a surface? It's true. The ceiling. The ceiling.

Really? You want to put this technology on the ceiling? what so that you can adhesively stick, um, lights on the ceiling and then then get piss-poor Um, you know, just piss away conversion. Like everyone needs lights, right? It's one of our you know, biggest consuming things. Just you know. lights in offices and homes and just left on 24 7..

And you want to wire these? Do these wirelessly? Why? so that you can install some huge big copper sheet over here if you go to the effort to. actually if if you just make like a little small pad. oh I know exactly where I'm going to place my light on the ceiling. Oh, so I'll only put one of the just a little small uh, Quays pad here on top to wirelessly like.

You've already got to run the wires to that. And then you need a power converter brick Anyway, So you needed you know, an Ac to Dc converter. You know, an Ac to Rf like a converter with I don't know how much efficiency because you're not gonna tell us. In fact, you could have two losses there.

You would have the power brick and then you'd have this. So you've got to run the copper wires anyway. so you might as well just run them to the light from a power switch. That's it.
Bob's your uncle Done. This has been done since the dawn of electricity. This is just no. No.

It's rubbish. Walls, walls. no come on. floors.

The floors. Really you're going to like Just in case you want to like, put something in your like, you want to get rid of all these things. Okay right, they put a photo of the tangled cable here. What do you like? Are you going to sit stuff on the floor? What? are you going to sit on the floor that's going to be powered? This is more than a couple of inches this, um, you know, hi-fi thing here.

It's more than a couple of inches off there. So you want to put your quays pad under there. Then you've got to have your power brick anyway, which has got to come out of the wall. So how are you going to do it? Like, how are you going to power any of the stuff on your typical home you know, Tv stand thing? You're not.

It's more than a couple of inches from the wall. You said it for yourself. This is like it's it's gravity, right? It's all about gravity. Solving this by gravity.

Things aren't gravitationally. You know, touching your, uh, fla. You know on with this. they're touching the table, Not the oh no.

Come on. Well, this is actually a typical, like streamer kind of, um, setup that they're actually targeting here. And fair enough, it's an absolute rat's nest. Okay, But then you can solve this by cable looming and some.

And there's that Aren't there. Entire Reddit threads devoted to cable looming. Leon, Gorgeous. cable looming, and stuff like that.

You can just make this look absolutely gorgeous and high-tech. And you know I. I think the last thing you want is a completely clean desk with your monitor powered here. And then your studio lights are so you'd have to buy special pieces of gear.

Um, actually designed in with a proprietary technology from Quays because it won't be that is not going to open source it and let anyone manufacture this are they? And then how do you get your startup valuation and get you know flipped as a unicorn right? For you know, a billion dollar investment? You can't right? So they locked it in with the patents and everything. so they got like all these manufacturers would have to decide. Oh yeah, Quasa is the technology that we want and we want. You know everyone wants this embedded, you know, and everyone wants like just embedded power on their desktop and they want to power like absolutely everything.

And as if you have to power your mouse like you know, a battery. In this last like a year I changed this like once a year or something like that. Same with the wireless keyboard as well. Like you know what else you got like your wireless headphones.

Well they can sit on your desk, usually you're wearing them right, there's your problem and then your camera's sitting up here like this. No, you're always like you just just be at one with the cables. Learn to love the cables and you get you know your 99 efficiency for the cable. Like 100.
Essentially I rounded up to 100 efficiency for your cable. Um just no, no no no no no Yeah okay maybe there's some niche here. Some people want it for the wake factor and stuff, and you know, good on them. I actually like the fact that they have actually thought about this and gone right.

We're going to Target gamers and we're going to team up with this. You know, Pc Company or whatever. That's actually a smart move. I'm smarter than a lot of the other wireless startups have done.

So yeah, maybe they can make a niche there. but I I reckon this is going to flop. I I I. My spidey sense is just yeah.

yeah. Floppy. The ceiling, the wall sailing, the floors, the furniture. Are you with me? Are you seeing it? No, not really.

Surface power. Very, very Nashy. At Quays, we broke the rule and we can now turn any surface at any scale into a power supply. Let's have a look at our technology at work.

look at all this stuff and power. Really? That that laptop is being powered? Really? that that laptop there is being powered? Is it? I don't think so. Um, the the monitor. They seem to have the mat under there, so I'm going to give it to them that they're powering the monitor.

But once again, I would like to know from Quays. I'm sure they'll eventually see this video. Please leave it in. The comments down below tell us: is there any buffer battery technology involved in this? Um, or can you or are you actually getting the power for that monitor? I don't know what a monitor like that take 50 watts? Something like that? You know, 30 watts? something like that.

Are you actually getting that through there? You can? I'm not. I'm not saying you can't And but um, what's the actual efficiency that you're achieving with this monitor? For example, give us some real numbers. There it is that phone suppose. Look, they toss this phone down and it's and it's 40 charged.

It doesn't does it? I don't know. Iphones, those fruity gadgets. I don't have one. Um, is that what it shows when it's charging and see what's what's going on here? Like what's what's this case? I don't know.

Is this like a special case that they've designed and embedded because it's got like a curved bottom on it. So if anyone can recognize that case and please, like I, I find it hard to believe at this stage of their startup that they have a really evolved even you beam. With all their massive funding and and backing and everything else, they had that brick. You remember they had that huge brick on the back.

Um, but sure enough they didn't have like a chi like level coil sort of like charging tech. but it's still. um yeah, maybe maybe that's actually their you know, their prototype custom thing. but I I don't know how they're getting the power in.
Like like is there a flat flex and then a right angle? A real low profile right angle charging cable going in there because obviously the electronics would have to be in the back. If that's the case, I don't know. Leave in the comments down below. Um, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

but yeah, I just I just want to know technically how they're doing that up to 500 watts? Yeah, not with that power brick buddy. Limitless. Possible. It's always limitless.

55 charged? Yeah, that doesn't mean it's charging. I I reckon. Like, I'm sure that they're actually getting power out of those little lighty cube things because it takes nothing to what you know. That's that's like, you know you can just spread all of that.

It's easy. Astonishing, isn't it? Not really. Because five years ago, give me the numbers. Five years patented technology is also Fcc compliant and ready for the market.

But the dream doesn't stop here. Think about it. The ceiling, the walls, the ceilings. the furniture.

The walls of the furniture. See what the future will look like? Can you see what the future would look like? How and where are you going to embed this stuff in the floors? How and where are you going to embed stuff in this glass table? It's got to have a cord coming to it, doesn't it? At least the other technologies you know. You put one in like the corner of the room or something and it just magically beams the you know magic. Woowoo beams the uh, power to your devices.

but you know you've got to have a cable come into this nice gorgeous glass table. You got here this coffee stand on the side. where's where's the cord coming from? It's got to come from power outlet or is it turtles all the way down so you better in the floor and then the then you buy a special stand. Here you buy you know, a quasi-enabled glass table which then you know it's got the mat in the bottom which then picks it up and picks up the power from the floor and then converts it to more crazy stuff which then powers whatever is on the desktop.

So it's like a total loss in efficiency all the way down. I mean, come on. and what? what are you going to put on these walls? They're blank. They're blank.

There's nothing. There's like an inkblot modern art masterpiece over here. Um, and what is it? No, no, what. what.

But where are we going to start? We're not here to find our early adopters. Well, we have the answer to that question and it's into the gaming world. Yeah, I think this is not creative on their part. If they're gonna, our dreamers enhance be successful.

Yeah, they've got a lot of money to burn on wanky products and they want to look cool and they wanna. Yep, today Quasi's technology can power all peripherals. See why would you want to power the as I said, The keyboard, the mouse, the headset, right, the monitor. Maybe I can understand because it's always sitting on the desktop.
the laptop. I can understand, it's always sitting there. Your phone. okay, I can understand that as well.

Your controllers. Uh, maybe. Oh yeah, maybe maybe. But most of the time you're there, you know, with your controller.

and yeah, okay, you put it down overnight and it recharges. But I like, yeah, you know, apart from the wank factor, live stream hardware like your camera really, that's not sitting on the desk, mine's sitting on a glass shelf here above my monitor. How does that work? Once again, turtles all the way down from the glass shelf, up to the yep, after perfect Quays will unleash even more potential for that industry. Now, unless this is such an appealing value proposition that one of the top gaming brand main gear is hopping on the Quasi Microsoft store, why have they put this? calibration? Is currently creating the first ever gaming setup to feature a Quays surface power that speaks volume about our technology and its potential.

Now like Oculus, we're starting in the gaming space, but our technology reaches far outside of it. Think electrical, think home and industrial industrial. Huge markets for our technology. Industrial.

You don't give a toss about looks, you're just going to wire it in. You want the most efficiency exactly and reliability. Co-founders and creators of the technology. There's all the people working on it.

There you go. I'm sure they're all legit. They are. Apparently the two here are legitimate rocket scientists.

They like that I am leading. Um, and yeah, I'm sure some of the best. Some of the best people in the business, including Paul Reynolds, worked on Beam. Okay, I'm gonna have to get him on sometime and talk about it, but uh yeah, we're We've discussed quite a few.

Some of the best people in the industry worked at Ubeam, right? The best ultrasonic professionals in the world. Meredith boasted about it having like, the like, literally the best ultrasonic team in the world, right? and they still couldn't pull it off right? I mean, sure, How many people working the energies right and I like, no, come on, come on, come on. Doesn't make it any more practical. Just like now, what are we looking for? An investment of three million dollars? They want you three million and that is not so you can charge yourself on your kitchen counter.

Now this is to redefine the rules of product design and create new possibilities. Yeah, there's more. So imagine a mobile set. Imagine a movie set that can get reconfigured.

A movie set. Now that we broke the rule, I hope you can see or should I say welcome to the future. Thank you everyone thank you! All right let's go check out their pattern Xiaomi. I'll link these in down below.
but all I care about. Okay, all I care about is uh, the efficiency of this thing Because it all comes down to what is their efficiency. and they claim some reasonable numbers in here. Um, like right.

there's the charging service. They've got these like this grid charging surface. That's uh, 15 megahertz resonant power technology. So you've got to have resonant coils.

That that's how you get their efficiency. So they don't just piss it away. But they're not the only ones doing this right. Tons of wireless companies are doing resonant wireless charging right.

It's all the rage. And here's prior art. They're talking about like the efficiency is down here. and they've got different, like, uh, receiver positions upon a three part array or something like this.

Anyway, they're claiming that that with the different tuning frequencies and modify connections with cables. Um, they're getting like above 80 in all three locations. Above 80 Efficiency. If they can get that, then that's pretty good.

Actually, you know, I think Chi is like 85. Something like that. Cheese is a similar order. Um to that.

Um, because cheese are resonant charging technology, but it's right on top. You know there's so there's little losses. you know. So it cheese pretty good.

once. As I said, it's Efficiency Turtles all the way down. Efficiency Turtles. That's such a there's got to be a t-shirt in Efficiency Turtles.

Um, yeah, that's terrific stuff. New merch coming soon. Um, so it's Efficiency Turtles all the way down. Okay, you saw they powered this.

They've been working on this for five years and they're still powering it from what a 50 100 watt top Power brick. So where's their 500 watt technology? I want to see a 500 watt bar radiator, heater and I want to see, um, true Rms power measurements in and out of this thing so that we can get actual efficiency calculations for this. Please. Anyway, I'll link them in Down below.

Okay, um, and by the way, it's a company called Synap Interaction Inc. Um, that that's they've worked on other Synap Interaction Inc and they've got other things in like they've worked on stuff previously so you can go and research them if you really want and they're talking about. You know, Efficiency. Efficiency.

Efficiency Efficiency. Okay, is what we really want to know, but they have not published. Trust me, If you were getting 80 efficiency right, I'd be plastering this all over your web page. It'd be the number one thing.

We match. Um, Chi Efficiency, right? But hey, let's go to the website. Quays Technology Service Power To power all your devices, wirelessly, Supercharge your life. Um, yeah, where's the receiver on the back of that? Um, and yeah, don't worry.

Monitors? Yeah, like keyboards, Mice Again, like headsets and stuff like that. Yeah, no, You know, like if you want to take pride in your cabling and your 100 efficiency, you know in your in your transfer because like 500 watts up to 150 watts of wireless power? Oh okay yeah okay so the power brick. Maybe that's 150 watt power brick they've got with 500 watts in development no 2021.. there you go.
Last I looked, it's August, uh, 2022. so it can be adhered to any non-metallic surface to deliver wireless charging and power. Cool right? So you stick it under the table and this is what I'm sure they'll sell right. And then, um, make a gear will sell Like they'll have the pad embedded in the bottom of the Pc.

I guess where you can't have feet there. You know you want to get as flat down as possible because you've already got, like, you know, if your table is half an inch thick or a inch thick or something. You know you don't want to piss away another inch on the bottom of your gaming rig here. But anyway, um, yeah, that's it, right? If it's all about the efficiency, if they're getting really good efficient, end-to-end end-to-end efficiency, right? Including the power brick.

Because if you've got a power brick as we saw, they're powering this thing which you know you might get 80 85 percent in your power brick or something like that, I don't know. It depends on your power brick, right? And then you might only get 80 in this, so that's like 65 or something So yeah, look this magic woo-woo all coming off the table here. look and it works. Okay, this is technology that works.

I'm absolutely sure of it, right? Don't take it away from them and they might have a niche here. They might be able to make a go of it with gaming, but I reckon this is just going to die in the ass. So anyway, there's 39 references to efficiency. And interestingly, we can get down to these sorts of things here.

Okay, so they start talking about individual tuning frequency. Okay, and then they have this coupling factor, um, of one. And they I think they relate that coupling factor of one to the, uh, commercial off-the-shelf technology. So whatever that is, they've no, I think they've normalized it to one.

Please correct me in the comments. Uh, down below. I you know I'm not going to spend a huge amount of time analyzing all this. but yeah, coupling coefficients.

But anyway, they've got efficiency down here. and this is where they seem to get it from. An average of 57 efficiencies with 15 megahertz of operating frequency 57 average. And these are just the different positions on the because they do.

All of all. this patent stuff is all done with just three pads or three elements. Um, essentially those square elements that you can see you can see down the bottom here. Okay, it's done with three in a row apparently.

and uh yeah. different different positions on there give you different efficiencies. Um, so I don't know what point three percent there is. Is that like? it doesn't work at all? It doesn't work at all.
It's point three percent efficient in that location. What does that mean? And and are these actually real measured values? It kind of sort of like implies that these might be simulated. um as well. but once again, I'm not sure.

Quiz, Please correct me. Official Response: I'll even pin your comment down below if you want to. You know Real detailed technical reply. I'll pin your comment.

so they are 54, 69, 47, 57 Average over there. So yeah, you know. Look, uh. 33.

Geez, that's pretty piss-poor. Okay, it's not quite u-beam levels that that 0.3 That was u-beam levels of efficiency. Okay, u-beam units like a point Point: One percent is one. Yeah is one u-beam unit of efficiency? Um, yeah.

there you go. So maybe this is the one. This is the one here that they get in there. Um, that actual graph from that graph down here that we saw behind my head there.

Yeah, Maybe that's where they're getting that from. So efficiency value is the receiver position for the while. The present disclosure when using modify connections with cables using different so this might be written. You see, it's got simulation output between the resonators and repeater resonant array simulation output.

where's their real numbers? If they were achieving 80 in the real world, I'd be plastering that all over the website. Really, I would. It's the efficiency that matters. But anyway, there you have it.

Um. so as I mentioned, if quays want to respond to this, they can do a video response. They can. If they comment down below, I'll pin their comment right to the top here.

and they can have a say in this. Please let us know. Is there any battery buffer technology in here? What actual efficiency are you achieving at the moment? And I and is that total system efficiency? including the plug pack yet that we saw on the floor there powering this thing? I assume not. I assume that's just in.

like, um, like input to output. So the input that goes into here, not including your brick efficiency. that's going to come from somewhere. When you embed these in your floors, your walls, your tables, everywhere else, you've got to power them from power bricks it's not liking.

You know, like it's a hundred percent efficient with 240 volts Ac straight in. Not that one 10 volt American? Rubbish. Um, and yeah, it did. No, it doesn't work like that.

Okay, you've got to have these Power Brick technologies. You want to embed those in your wall. Really? Every Usb charger I've ever embedded in the wall has failed Every one of them without fail. So yes, we the engineering audience have real questions about this technology.

Please leave your questions down below for quiz and I'm sure they'll appoint them to this video. and um, I'll give them a fair suck of the sav in. uh in reply to this, we want to know what has you been working on for five years? What's your end-to-end system efficiency for you know? Oh for for this monitor for example, because that that? That's their biggie thing here. that's their look.
If they had any better demo, they'd be shown it right. If they were actually doing a full gaming Pc, they'd be showing it. But obviously a gaming Pc needs more than 150 watts. So maybe they're stuck at the 150 watts at the moment and they can't do the 500 watts.

Or maybe they've been stuck in the limbo lands for a year since 2021 or whatever it was. So yeah, their big one seems to be the monitor. so please tell us, show us photos how you're actually doing the monitor, show us your boards, stuff like that and all of us engineering community can discuss this. But yeah, once again, um, it's I think this is just going to be a niche thing.

So if they get this to market and main gear do release like looks like the first company that might sort of potentially think about releasing uh, products that do this. Um yeah, they're in like they're in talks now. This is all just typical startup marketing hype as we've seen countless times before and none of them have made it so I can. They make it.

I think they have more of a maybe more of a chance because they're focusing on the gaming market so that that you know they might gets a little bit of a success but I can't see and that be be hugely successful and and the world doesn't want this, The world doesn't want a less efficient technology just so that you can feel better about how neat and tidy your uh table is without any cause. but you have to bloody well have some anyway. So what's the point? You might as well go all out and be 100 efficient with your copper cables and then ceilings and walls and floor. No, come on, that's just complete marketing wankery.

It really is. So anyway, leave your thoughts and comments down below. We've got yet another wireless charging technology with marketing hype out the wazoo. Um, as always, discuss in the comments down below or over on the Eev blog forum also linked down below.

Every video has got its own Ev blog forum thread. That's where all the discussions happen, so I hope you enjoyed that If you did, give it a big thumbs up. As always, discuss down below. Catch you next time.


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20 thoughts on “Eevblog 1495 – quaze wireless power again! but for gaming!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Simon Upton-Millard says:

    They just bring out 500w as Nvidia release GPUs that need 1000w power supply so don't see a gaming PC running wireless, monitor all ready have a display cable so power cable is no worries, could see the tech been built into a desk pad maybe with 100w max to charge Phone, Tablet, keyboard, mouse, headset, controller and maybe run & charge a thin and light laptop (mine has a 65w charger) maybe charging a Nintendo Switch and a steamdeck? But in use they would be well out of range but some gaming laptops already have 330w power bricks and 180w is normal so nah not going to be wireless, maybe a market to reduce charger cable clutter if its cheap but nothing more

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MartelDuV says:

    I went and checked because the power brick for my laptop charger looks about the same size. It's marked as 90 watts.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Acool18 says:

    500VA (50mm over TX-Coil) over Wireless… Good luck with your min. 5kVA Transmitter

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MartelDuV says:

    Oh man, thinking about my gaming rig with wireless… wants me to yerk off my cable… wait what?

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Some Guy says:

    Quite honestly what is the advantage over Qi? Just slap a Qi coil on the band of a wireless headset, bottom of wireless mouse and keyboard etc… and put the charging coil in the RGB desk mat powered by USB and that's all using today's tech.

    Monitor and PC are rarely moved so who cares, just do proper cable management and it won't be noticeable.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Honu Moorea says:

    They got 97% invested in their bullshit marketing, 2% in pizzas and coca cola… And 1% in research.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Honu Moorea says:

    Most pc gamers play with mouse keyboard and cordless is good even if never bought them… cause they are more expensive and need more power.
    There already are powering mats and cordless mat, the mouse still have a battery inside, it just charge with induction.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Honu Moorea says:

    Naaa.. No cord on the table, the ground is coiled which send power to the table which send power to it surface… Well… in their heads.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Honu Moorea says:

    Powering the laptop is easier then the monitor.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Honu Moorea says:

    You can see in their attitude that it's bullshit, they do not believe in their shit.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sea_Gull_89 says:

    I'm just imagening their ads launching with intentional typos, like "the crazy charger!! it's not just for quazy gamers!"

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Honu Moorea says:

    We need to go to the efficiency road, not practicality…

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars W Burger says:

    Soon they will call solar power as "wireless power charging"!

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Phil Richards says:

    The 0.3% efficiency was under a heading for "prior technology" – so I suspect it is the one on the graph that was the big V shape.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul Greeve says:

    You cana break the laws of fish-sticks captain!

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CaptainBoring says:

    Why they just don't mount array of Qi chargers to the desk and only those which would have device over them would be transmitting power. Of course it would be only for charging mouse, keyboard or phone, but it would be nice not having to recharge these things.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars rtsp says:

    Wifi and other wireless communication dead.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mufeed Al-Hashim says:

    Did they wirelessly connect HDMI or DisplayPort cable to the monitor?

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ats89117 says:

    LOL, It's turtles all the way down!

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Long John says:

    Go look at the FCC rules for a 500W 15MHz transmitter and safe operating distance from the antenna ….. According to the FCC an amateur 20M station (14 MHz) operating at 500W you need to be 3.4 meters away from the antenna at a minimum ….. Which means you cannot have the antenna anywhere in the average sized room without subjecting humans and pets to dangerous levels of RF power. This also assumes a 0 db gain antenna (omni-directional). If you are using a gain antenna such as forming it into a beam or making it directional the the safe distance increases to 4.8M for a 3 db gain, 6.8M for a 6 db gain, etc.

    There is no way you are going to develop 500W of power at 15 MHz and get it past the FCC …. If you drop it to 100W you'd still need a 1.5M safe operating distance so you'd be lucky to get 5W at 15 MHz approved for something sitting under your desk …. And that doesn't even take into account RFI problems if you don't have a clean Sine wave and are radiating harmonics and perhaps jamming your neighbor's garage door opener ……

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