Hi Its teardown time. We've got the brain spanking new Reigle MSO 705 for its a 500 megahertz 10 gig samples per second for channel scope. it uses their brand new custom ASIC the Phoenix chipset. So it makes Rygel one of the major players now that they have their own custom in ASIC 4 oscilloscope front ends.

Not only do they have it for the processing, but they also have one for the analog front-end I believe. So super impressive stuff from Rygaard's taking them a long time to get there. so any schmuck company can design an oscilloscope. hi you can see the Glarry screen.

That's terrible Muriel is Clarisse look at it awful hi I'm Dick Any schmuck can design a scope. Well, you know. Anyway, anyone can design a scope with a bigger size MGP a and off-the-shelf a DC's But to roll your own custom Asics that's some serious coin and serious commitment. so let's check it out.

Just a few screws on here. it's pretty big. our scope $2,700 our retail minimum for the four channel 100 megahertz. And as with all the big players, everything is optional extra.

So anyway, let's rip the damn thing open. So we do have the 500 megahertz model here and that is the serial number for those playing along at home. but I believe the hardware is absolutely identical for all the models. Everything software upgradeable so you pay you twenty seven hundred bucks and you get your 500 megahertz bandwidth.

but you've ever got a hack it or pony up the money for the options. Just like the big boys by the way. I'm not a fan of the feet on this. I Think they just like I Liked in: the feet at the back are fine.

Is that rubber? Yeah. I think it is. Anyway, it's not as a rubbery as other rubbery feet, but it just doesn't seem to stick in places. Like just not much force required to flip it back.

Yeah. I Don't like it. You bet your ass we're gonna void the warranty. Yeah.

I Think every stripe manufacturer is colluding to have exactly the same way to get their own scopes open these days. To screw, there's two screws on the bottom of the case and to in here. They're probably metal in the damn elections too. And of course, there'll be nothing under here.

Set the middle here. Ah, what's going on there? Hello! McFly There's nothing. There's no holes under there. What do they put the mesh there for? Okay, so what's obviously going on here is that somebody designed the case and they went well.

We're probably going to need a lot of airflow on this puppy. Maybe you know, airflow in here and airflow out here. For example, where the fan blows out biggest fan. by the way, it's absolutely massive.

Um, shame. It's like the bigger could potentially be quieter because you can move a greater volume of air for a lower rpm. But anyway, so this look like they designed the moulding the case undecided and I will probably the stuff sucking the air from the side here and you can see that on the side of the case there as it got on the other side. Yep, from the sides, nothing on the bottom and they decided no, we're not going to do that, but we don't want to redo the molding of the case so we can't just have the metal sticking out visible through the back holes so we'll just put this mesh on it that makes it look I don't know machines power supply gonna be on the back here I don't Oh yeah it is.

It's gonna be mounted there, you can see the mounting holes and I gotta say the biggest fan and we're in like Flynn Nice. There's our four analog front ends all nicely. Oh jeez, that's they're like nickel screening cans I Really like the look at those. We've got two big custom Asics up here.

they're our ABCs and our sampling engines and that. well the new Phoenix II chipset. Ah, got some real old-school relays and a battery and one little pissant FPGA or processor under there. you can see a little another spot and six FPGA up they there's our sample memory and Bob's your uncle Jesus Pretty sweet Innit.

look at all the nicely laid out Dc-to-dc converters here for all the rails they need it for. You know you've probably got one point one one point 5 volts, 1.8 volts. goodness. when I was a boy I think I was on the money with the rails here.

let's go in and have a look at them, shall we? They thoughtfully labeled: 1.2 volts, 1.0 volts, naught point Nine volts, 1 volt, 2.0 volts, 1.8 volts, 1.5 volts, 1 volt, 3.3 volts, 3.3 volts again I Guess they've got to have two separate ones. Keep them ones digitally, ones analog. Maybe because it wouldn't make sense if they're both digital and 5.0 oddball. 5 point 5 volts and 5 point 5 volts thank you very much.

Ah, sorry, almost forgot. 20 volt for you 20 volt rail fanboys. Oh, and a little sneaky bastard. 5 volts in there.

and also what's - 15 volt? Obviously for large scale and look stuff and we've got more over here. Just some local linear regulation 1.8 volts, 3.3 volts probably for that sparked in there or whatever processor job' that is there. Tons of rails that's the problem with like these newfangled, modern FPGAs and chips. They just need so many different rails.

it's insane. Just ah, not. point Seven, Five volts, Hello in McFly Can we make it any more obvious that they're doing some hardware version configuration with this? Spartan 6 FPGA Jeez. Even got the JTAG They're just ready to go.

Like what sort of hardware configuration like? Hmm. because I thought everything was software upgradeable in this thing. Interesting. I Get the distinct feeling that this label in here? it might make sense if we actually get the the serial boot output for this thing.

the debug output. Hmm. Obviously this is our applications, our processor. here.

this is our operating memory. You can see all the serpentine trace length, trace length, matched traces in there. That's a mouthful. Um, and yeah, it's probably I don't know.

similar to what we have are seen before. We might even be able to get that if we can get haven't looked for the serial thing for this. the serial bootloader interface. Hmm.

Could it be up here? Perhaps one of these. it's not labeled Rygel Innovation or nothing. Fantastic. Gold-plated - and apparently this is this one.

I believe I think I Have a vague recollection that was the code name for this new scope thing is it's incredibly: Spartan isn't it? I mean you know applications processor memory. We've got like a bridging Fpga up here, which is kind of between the two. So whether or not all this flows into the spot I mean I believe I'll get to there some ADC and then applications. the new Phoenix chipset, a bridging Fpga applications processor and the rest is just miscellaneous housekeeping obviously on the video side of things.

they've got HDMI Driver up here for the excellent HDMI out on this thing. Fantastic. although I don't believe it. Scales be awesome if you get like Full HD out or even more.

That would have been fantastic. If you get the real estate to do that you wouldn't need need more than full HD But but unfortunately, it's only limited to like 1280 by 768 or something like that. Yeah, there's just remarkably little inside here. I'm a DC finished chipset sampling memory.

Got some miscellaneous stuff down here which I don't know because this is not the external input. They've got the external input all the way over here and you can see that there's not much circuitry around the external input there so. but. but it's good that you get a four-channel scope with an external input so you don't waste one of your channels if you need that external trigger.

So that's really quite nice, but it obviously can't give you like a fifth waveform or anything like that I Believe. But apart from that, you know the rest of its just housekeeping. Of course, we've got our logic analyzer down here I Believe it uses just an off-the-shelf our PCI connector. That's very nice.

They're fantastic connectors. She'll be using them for everything. Um, I've used them in tests, jigs, and all sorts of stuff. They're great.

They've got some more rails - three point, 4 volts. What? 4 volts? I Mean, you know, what's what? so that's just yeah. are some local regulation that would be for your analog supply here. what else have we got? And then just a probe compensation output.

that's all your logic analyzer stuff. We'll take a closer look at those and then we've got our two signal generator outputs here. So where's all the circuitry for the Cig? Jen It doesn't seem to be there, Is it on the bottom? Bueller Bueller. Can't be that.

I have no idea about an adder brand fan anyone. but it's not that like. this thing is not that silent. you can certainly hear it.

It's not overly loud. But anyway, here's our power supply: Looks neat and tidy I Forgot about the mains he brought down here. Very nicely crimped and locknut terminated down to the show. Z They're brilliant and this looks neat and tidy, doesn't it? It's the Jackal.

Check it out. The Jackal piece of a version 1.00 Jeez. Don't trust that. Anyway, we've got craps on caps down there.

That's how you're doing on the output. Unbelievable. Someone's gone a bit silly with the snot gun. Well, I cannot see the brand of the main DC cap here, but I presume it's a craps on as well.

So yeah. anyway. um, that all looks more snot. Look at that.

Wow So that's neatly laid out and it'd be perfectly fine if it was like a Ds1000 series. Uh, Roy Go. But you've got to remember this scope was like fully optioned up I'm it sells for like eleven thousand US dollars? Yeah. I Would want a better quality components in my power supply for $11,000 scope? Well, hot dang, this is serious business.

Look at this 84 degrees I'm sure it's going to creep up to well over 85 degrees on the ADC ASIC No wonder they need the huge Arts fan in there. Got almost 74 on the Phoenix chipset up there. The front ends are so hot I Can't keep my hand on there. They've got to be well over 50 that we're talking 53 degrees on the analogue front end.

and I'm not doing anything like this. Scopes not working hard. it's just well. scopes work out all the time.

They're always sampling at ten gig bits per second, applications processor almost 64 degrees. Now one do. They need this big-ass 120 millimeter fan in this thing if we have a look at the flue here. I mean just see the relative via temperatures.

You can't see the analog front end because there are reflective and stuff like that. We can see a little hot spot over there on the and oops. I Think it shut down of its own accord so might have some over temperature monitoring. You'd probably expect that.

that's probably they would have kicked and they're customizing the ASIC They probably measuring the temperature in there. Again, not enough airflow. It gets too hot. so searching around for the serial debug output and I thought well one of these are headers up here, but it's not.

These look like a JTAG headers by the looks of it. this Spartan six FPGA here. if you follow the money and a couple of those traces over, here leads to a three-way pin header over here and uh-huh we got one There we go a hundred and fifteen K board so we'll work that into our terminal program. Let's boot her up all right.

I'm gonna go switch it on. Let's go and we're in like Flynn Rygel II Dirty It's dirty, Dirty Filthy Buggers a try Go Update: Timer was detected blah blah in data bitmap bitmap one are there. You go there, see can you change like the boot bitmap screen and stuff like that touch driver we're in to a root menu cannot create soccer for UDP Six Joshua I haven't even got the send hooked up? sorry don't so we're in on die. ECC Oh Keep spewing stuff out there I Go A Dirty I Squared C This is great Flamingo Linux Kernel uncompressed, blah blah blah blah blah hash value I'm sure some people out there can make heads or tails of all this rubbish, so I'll just cling onto me.

Sorcery Code Bench Light Sorcery I Don't know there's some voodoo sorcery going on inside this new rug. I'll Scope Let me tell you, some dirty voodoo going on. I'm gonna have to look through it carefully to find any reference to that hardware configuration stuff because we have hacked scopes based on that before. All right.

I Like the look of this, hit any key to stop autoboot. Whack a key as in I've plugged in a USB keyboard. Did we get it? Nope. Nope.

It didn't stop. I was pressing the keys but nobody's home. and by the way, it doesn't seem to boot with the transmit line connected so it's only the receive line that says to work so don't know what's going on there. So if you follow the money on the boot code, turns out this application processor over here is actually a zhiling Zink processor which is a combined FPGA and ARM processor.

Very powerful beast that we've seen power entire scopes before like the low-end ones, but in this case it just looks so tiny tot compared to these piece. Now either somebody was thinking on the PCB layout here the system like you know, assembly people went. look at that. We've got a ground point there.

we can just cable tie that and it seems like this board just won't lift out on its own. It looks like you've got to take the entire metal cage out first with these clips. Bummer. that was tricky.

Wow Awesome! We don't care too much about the LCD but there's the part number for those playing along at home. and the encoder and front panel PCB I Always find it funny when you find a different brand FPGA in here. We've got an Excel Pro Basic Three very nice FPGA but it's different to the Xilinx parts where we see on the mainboard, so it's almost as if like you know, like different design team? maybe. Anyway, like it's just interesting.

The choices? What's a quick response code? You'll notice the police which is there on the external wire probe interfaces. You know what? the idiot users are shorting out the power supply to the external probes? Well, they're really making sure of the RF shielding connection over to the mainboard up there. That's what all the gold pads on there are for. So there's our soft power button three USBs and we're going to take the nuts off here.

So there's our PCI interface for the digital probe but bit more on the bottom but just all the bypass stuff. Another regulation you expected. All right. This is insane.

This is a complete 500 megahertz analog front end. You've gotta be kidding me. Wow Roy goes new ASIC they've got here which does the entire front end, the digital attenuation, and the whole works. Absolutely amazing.

Wow There's a little teensy bit more on the bottom side there, but not much that doesn't include that that's outside. So like unbelievable 500 make front end I Mean obviously you know it cost millions of dollars to develop this front-end ASIC No doubt. but once they were perfected this they can would find under to make bandwidth in. you know, a new version of the RAI Gold 1054 500 Meg No worries whatsoever with no our price penalty basically.

But granted you do kind of need the sample rate to match the bandwidth, but you know a couple of gig would do it. There's no point taking off the other I cans. Of course they're all going to be absolutely identical. So from that ridiculously minimalistic 500 megahertz analog front-end we've just got our wire differential or appear going out and going straight into our duties that DD c-- ADC So this is a four channel ADC here I don't know what else it contains.

You can see all the differential pairs or match lengths. Of course you know the serpentine traces, everything else going over. it could be this is new ADC this is new Phoenix ASIC which handles all the acquisition notice that all the memory goes into there. So and that, of course is the differentiation we've seen like the keysight and other scopes with their Asics because the process technology used in the design of an ADC like this is different to what's used inside are basically all digital like processing engine and stuff like that.

So these are all like digital signals coming out of the ADC so there's no analog in this at all. Whereas this puppy, the ADC yeah, there's you know it's a different ballgame to design one of those. so that was a very minimalistic design. With the new custom Asics they're just reduces everything right down.

But it's interesting that they've still used the zhiling Zink FPGA processor in there instead of probably one of the more traditional like you know TI applications processor or something like that, so that's interesting. It's a lot of horsepower therefore the user interface. Whether or not that translates into speed. Like user interface speed we don't know.

Anyway, what's fascinating is that front-end chipset and how that my goal could potentially like decimate the whole lower end market by by releasing maybe like a $400 new upgraded 1000 series. they could like 350, 400, 500 megahertz even front end for virtually no additional cost on their part. It's just a strategy whether or not they want to do that so they can potentially release like a scope that's like a hundred and hundred dollars per megahertz. That'd be absolutely amazing So but no idea if that's going to happen or that but that it's really shake things up.

Really interesting to see what those little hardware linkie things do to if you can hack this thing. So anyway, as always high res teardown photos over on TV blog forum. that's the best place to discuss it. Subscribe to Eevblog to notification all that sort of stuff, You know the deal.

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